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avinash_vun
05-05-2013, 05:18 PM
Hi All,

Please see the link
https://picasaweb.google.com/cavungarala/May52013

Was trying to remove Front LHS wheel and while doing so, 2 wheel nuts broke with the actual thread thing (not sure what it is called) broken ...And now have only 3 nuts holding the wheel. And I don't feel it is safe to drive that way.....

Does anyone know how to fix this please???? and what parts are needed and effort. Need to get the car moving ASAP.

Thanks....

magnaman89
05-05-2013, 05:31 PM
there called wheel studs easy to replace . you can get new studs from any auto store or wreckers

avinash_vun
05-05-2013, 05:38 PM
Thanks magnaman but how do I get the remain part of the stud from the wheel hub?????????/

GQshorty
05-05-2013, 05:40 PM
Remove the brake caliper and rotor. Hit the broken stud from the front to remove it from the hub. To fit the new wheel stud feed it from behind the hub and put the nut on backwards so you have a bigger flat surface going to the hub. Do it up and the stud will pull through until the lip sits against the hub and your done.

KS95Dave
05-05-2013, 06:04 PM
I'd replace ALL 5 studs while I was there. Some rock-ape has obviously gone crazy with a rattle gun....

johnvirus_01
05-05-2013, 06:06 PM
most parts places(if not all)/genuine parts will stock this.you need the wheel stud and the nut itself

avinash_vun
05-05-2013, 06:09 PM
Hi GQ...i think i got it now..will try that then....Thanks mate......

avinash_vun
05-05-2013, 06:18 PM
I think so too mate...got the front Discs & pads replaced 15 months ago and that guy must have gone crazy with the rattle gun and damaged the thread....

Cheers

avinash_vun
05-05-2013, 06:22 PM
True John......the nut too is buggered now...Actually, have to see how the remaining 3 nuts come out, or otherwise will have to get all 5 of them.

Cheers,

avinash_vun
12-05-2013, 05:50 PM
Remove the brake caliper and rotor. Hit the broken stud from the front to remove it from the hub. To fit the new wheel stud feed it from behind the hub and put the nut on backwards so you have a bigger flat surface going to the hub. Do it up and the stud will pull through until the lip sits against the hub and your done.

Hi mate

I removed the brake caliper and the Disc (see picture link). Still unable to access the studs....Looks like that I have to remove the Hub as well,

What is the bolt size of the center bolt????...the one which holds the HUB.

Thanks guys

GQshorty
12-05-2013, 06:15 PM
Hub nut is 32mm. Try unbolting the abs hub and see if that helps

MadMax
12-05-2013, 06:35 PM
Taking the hub nut off won't do anything. The splash shield needs to come off, and the ABS ring if it gets in the way.
Smash the studs with a heavy hammer, pull new ones in with a reversed nut.

avinash_vun
12-05-2013, 07:53 PM
Hey guys.....Not sure which is the ABS hub here (added a 2 more pictures now... is it that "Sprocket" looking thing the ABS HUB???? If so, do you know how to remove it??

Cheers,

MadMax
12-05-2013, 08:18 PM
Two small bolts on the same side as the sad looking studs.

avinash_vun
12-05-2013, 08:57 PM
I did remove those 2 small bolts (10mm ones).....but by removing them it only freed that "Sprocket" thingy from the front hub and it had a play..but apart from that nothing much...

avinash_vun
12-05-2013, 09:06 PM
Also if I have to pull the HUB out after removing the that big bolt (32mm one)....is there any precautions to be taken care off and any gaskets/rings/bushes/etc that need to be replaced?

avinash_vun
12-05-2013, 09:08 PM
And one more thing....when I remove that big bolt...does the HUB just slide out or does need to be pulled/hammered/etc??????

Cheers

magnaman89
13-05-2013, 04:16 AM
i didn't see that its an abs hub . the studs cant be replaced.
you will need the whole stub axle. if you cant find one over there i may have one

MadMax
13-05-2013, 07:07 AM
And one more thing....when I remove that big bolt...does the HUB just slide out or does need to be pulled/hammered/etc??????

Cheers

Removing the 32 mm nut frees the drive shaft. You also need to disconnect the hub at the two 17 mm bolts that hold it to the strut, at the top, and the ball joint at the bottom. Then the hub will come off the car.
Tie rod joint needs to be disconnected too.

avinash_vun
13-05-2013, 08:09 AM
i didn't see that its an abs hub . the studs cant be replaced.
you will need the whole stub axle. if you cant find one over there i may have one

Hi mate,
When you say the whole stub axle, does it mean the knuckle needs to be removed? Also if I can't find one for TS/TR magna, can it be swapped with a later model????

puma
15-05-2013, 07:11 PM
Damn magnas and their inferior wheel studs!

When I first got my TR I broke 2 studs on the left rear, and I stripped the splines off the stud on the right and the nut was rusted on, awesome fun tying to get that off.

Not sure about ABS hubs, but normal hubs you can just hammer the old studs out and what I did to put the new ones in was, I pushed the new stud through then used an old nut to pull it through and rattle gunned it to really pull the last of it through and it worked great.

GTVi
15-05-2013, 09:03 PM
@OP Other than the broken studs, you have some serious fluid leaking under there.

MadMax
15-05-2013, 09:24 PM
@OP Other than the broken studs, you have some serious fluid leaking under there.

About right for an old TR/TS though. lol

PS. Studs need to be tightened with a torque wrench. 100 Nm. Wheel nuts with domed ends are ok to run without hubcaps, but the other type without domed ends rust solid if hubcaps are not used.

puma
15-05-2013, 10:27 PM
Oops, definitely didn't tighten mine with a torque wrench :P

My Rattle Gun is my torque wrench haha

And my TR had domed nuts all round, so I had 3 domed on which were rusted on! That said they probably hadn't been touched for a good 5-6 years before I got the car.

Got it off with an angle grinder in the end, was desperate to get the old ones off so I could get my new wheel and tires on.

MadMax
15-05-2013, 10:30 PM
Oops, definitely didn't tighten mine with a torque wrench :P

My Rattle Gun is my torque wrench haha

And my TR had domed nuts all round, so I had 3 domed on which were rusted on! That said they probably hadn't been touched for a good 5-6 years before I got the car.

Got it off with an angle grinder in the end, was desperate to get the old ones off so I could get my new wheel and tires on.

Rattle gun? There's your problem right there!

GTVi
16-05-2013, 07:26 AM
Not using wheel torque sockets with your gun?

MadMax
16-05-2013, 08:18 AM
Not using wheel torque sockets with your gun?

Even those are not too accurate. Tend to weaken with use.

http://www.hsutechairtools.com/products/index.php?type_id=15&top=

I've found that even the manufacturer supplied basic tools can overtighten wheel nuts by 2X.

Main reason I use a torque wrench is that I don't want to weaken/stretch the studs. Don't want them to break while cornering vigorously do we? lol

HaydenVRX
16-05-2013, 08:52 AM
I just use the standard pieces found in the boot. Never had an issue. If you get your wheels rotated like you should they shouldnt ever get rusted on

GTVi
16-05-2013, 01:08 PM
Even those are not too accurate. Tend to weaken with use.


That's when used at a professional level day in day out, but for the home user, you will die of old age before a brand new set weakens.

avinash_vun
18-05-2013, 09:24 AM
@OP Other than the broken studs, you have some serious fluid leaking under there.

The wet oil on the ground and on the outer CV joint area, you see, is mostly WD40 sprayed excessively to get those damn tight Caliper mount bolts off...But yea there is some oil leak but guessing it must be normal for a car this old.