hay guys

Just braught the new TL vrx magna and its a great car to drive compared to my TH sports except u can really tell the lack off LSD. Im wanting to polish the car. I don't wont anything that's going to cut into the paint ive seen many faded magnas and last thing I wanna do it polish the car and its cuts into the paint and cause the clear to come off. Wats people recommendations?

cheers

If there are no specific imperfections you are looking at removing, a good quality carnauba-blend wax such as Meguiars Gold Class Plus Liquid Wax should do the job.

Cutting into the paint with a quality polish removes oxidization and imperfections from the clear coat, it wont cause the clear coat to all of a sudden peel. Please bear in mind what you want is a sealant not a polish, and sealant can be either synthetic or natural this is what forums a barrier coat from the exterior elements.

I would suggest hitting it with a clay bar first, this will remove the contaminants on the surface and have it feeling like glass. Carnuba wax is alright, its a natural product gives you a nice deep shine but it doesnt last long. If you want something that will last 3-6-12 months depending on the application I would recommend something synthetic like HD Poxy.

Im wanting to polish the car. I don't wont anything that's going to cut into the paint ive seen many faded magnas and last thing I wanna do it polish the car and its cuts into the paint and cause the clear to come off. Wats people recommendations?
Thing is kurt, if your paint is oxidised/swirled/has defects, the only way you can 'polish' it out is to use an abrasive polish (i.e. a polish that removes clear coat).

There are plenty of non-abrasive polishes but given the age of the car you could be disappointed with the results.

Also, faded paintwork on Magnas is not associated with excessive polishing - if anything, it'd be the other way around.


If there are no specific imperfections you are looking at removing, a good quality carnauba-blend wax such as Meguiars Gold Class Plus Liquid Wax should do the job.
A wax is a sealant only though. Paintwork should be polished before waxing/sealing.

Thing is kurt, if your paint is oxidised/swirled/has defects, the only way you can 'polish' it out is to use an abrasive polish (i.e. a polish that removes clear coat).

There are plenty of non-abrasive polishes but given the age of the car you could be disappointed with the results.

Also, faded paintwork on Magnas is not associated with excessive polishing - if anything, it'd be the other way around.




A wax is a sealant only though. Paintwork should be polished before waxing/sealing.

yeh true mate. Wat polish would u recommend? wat sealing would u recommend? I actually have some meguiars ultimate compound polish. I think its a non abrasive polish. U don't think that will be any good?

If you want to stick with off the shelf products, I've used Meguiars SwirlX recently on a family member's car and liked it. It's a light abrasive and is designed for application by hand. Cleared up oxidisation on a white paint without too much difficulty.

No idea about a sealant as I haven't bought an off the shelf wax/sealant in yonks. Would probably stick to something by Meguiars or Autoglym.

If you want to stick with off the shelf products, I've used Meguiars SwirlX recently on a family member's car and liked it. It's a light abrasive and is designed for application by hand. Cleared up oxidisation on a white paint without too much difficulty.

No idea about a sealant as I haven't bought an off the shelf wax/sealant in yonks. Would probably stick to something by Meguiars or Autoglym.

Yeh I know the swirl x is actually good stuff so ill try that first for the polishing. Then ill look around for a sealant. Is it recommended u use a sealant after a polish?

Has anyone ever used "Paint doctor" on a clear coated paint?
I used it on my gloss white car and it was amazing, paint came up looking good as new.

The instructions say it 'IS NOT A POLISH' and only to use it on small marks, not whole panels, but then I just replaced conspicuous dark marks with conspicuous white marks so I did the whole car... Looks fantastic

yeh true mate. Wat polish would u recommend? wat sealing would u recommend? I actually have some meguiars ultimate compound polish. I think its a non abrasive polish. U don't think that will be any good?

Ultimate compound polish is very abrasive, if putting it on with a foam pad via a rotary or random orbital you need to be very careful.

I already recommended a good sealant, a good polish to go with it would be HD Uno, otherwise Poor Boys and Dodo Juice make some good stuff aswell.

Ultimate compound polish is very abrasive, if putting it on with a foam pad via a rotary or random orbital you need to be very careful.

I already recommended a good sealant, a good polish to go with it would be HD Uno, otherwise Poor Boys and Dodo Juice make some good stuff aswell.

Cheers mate. So u recommend polish then sealant?

Polish first then sealant afterwards guys? Or just polish? Wats the best way to apply polish?

I dont understand how youve had a magna for years and never polished it

polish then sealant. Sealant is important to protect the paint from the elements, which is the best way to help reduce damage to the paint. So definitely lay down a sealant haha

I dont understand how youve had a magna for years and never polished it

Haha. I'm a silly bastard

if you can get it, I would recommend starting off with a GOOD quality swirl remover, something like meguiars swirl x, this stuff can not only make your paint look like plastic, but also feel like it as well. Then polish, then wax. im a big fan of one of those DA polishers.....Bowdens is also a nice brand to work with as well.

if you can get it, I would recommend starting off with a GOOD quality swirl remover, something like meguiars swirl x, this stuff can not only make your paint look like plastic, but also feel like it as well. Then polish, then wax. im a big fan of one of those DA polishers.....Bowdens is also a nice brand to work with as well.

Meguiars make a color x polish. It's works as a swirl and polish protector at the same time. Sounds like a good idea?

Its an easy solution but like any 2 in 1 product doing it separate will yield better results.

I doubt the wax in that would last as long as Carnuba and Carnuba doesnt last long itself.

As peaandham has said, use separate items, don't use 2 in 1 products, once a year I use the following, and my paint work looks and feels like plastic. Bowdens carwash, then bowdens claybar, then I use meguiars swirl x, then use bowdens polish and finally use bowdens wax that has the Carnuba in it, That takes me 6 hours of work. then every 6 months I use the polish and wax. the only reason I use bowdens is because it actually has an spf in it lol

Wax and sealant both serve the same purpose and essentially the same thing. Classic meaning is that wax is generally carnauba based (natural wax from Brazil) while sealant is a synthetic product.

Which one is better? Here is the most useless answer - It all depends!

Carbauba based product generally produce better gloss and its slightly different in the way that it seems to fuse into the paint while sealants create "layer of glass" like gloss. Carnauba however being a natural product breaks down quickly will only last for about a month if car is parked outside. Matter of fact manufacturer of Bowdens wax (product mentioned above) confirms this on their website suggesting that waxing is needed about every month. Its a natural UV filter so it acts like sun screen while selants act mote like sacrificial protection (i.e oxidation destroys sealant first than paint).

Sealants generally last much longer and some claim up 1 year of protection (like Nufinish, there are others to) however gloss is generally slightly less when compared to carnauba based products.

Ok now the real problem. Manufacturers dont seems give a crap about what the product should be called and use terms like polish, wax and sealant anyway they want. For instance Nufinish once a year "polish" is not actually a polish but is a sealant.

So as been suggested before clay your car it will make glass like feel and will make any protection last much longer. To be honest i would not bother with polish (true polish with abrasives) if your paint is in reasonable condition. Good idea is borrow some and to try small section of your car to see if it brings more gloss out. If you have tiny swirls than good quality wax/selant should will them up so there is no need to polish.

I have tried lots of waxes out there and have been using carnauba based waxes due to their better gloss than sealants up until i tried Meguiars Ultimate Wax (which is not actually a wax, its fully synthetic so its a sealant). Its simply awesome, it does not stain plastics, lasts for about 3-4 months on a car thats parked outside and is incredibly glossy. it a bit pricey $60, but not when you compare it to things like dodo juice and so on.

Also invest in quick wax (Ultimte quick wax is awesome), after you wash you car quickly spray it on and wipe off, always use separate dry microfibre to take it off (for best results) this will extend your wax protection and will enhance the gloss, do it every second or third wash.

Wax and sealant both serve the same purpose and essentially the same thing. Classic meaning is that wax is generally carnauba based (natural wax from Brazil) while sealant is a synthetic product.

Which one is better? Here is the most useless answer - It all depends!

Carbauba based product generally produce better gloss and its slightly different in the way that it seems to fuse into the paint while sealants create "layer of glass" like gloss. Carnauba however being a natural product breaks down quickly will only last for about a month if car is parked outside. Matter of fact manufacturer of Bowdens wax (product mentioned above) confirms this on their website suggesting that waxing is needed about every month. Its a natural UV filter so it acts like sun screen while selants act mote like sacrificial protection (i.e oxidation destroys sealant first than paint).

Sealants generally last much longer and some claim up 1 year of protection (like Nufinish, there are others to) however gloss is generally slightly less when compared to carnauba based products.

Ok now the real problem. Manufacturers dont seems give a crap about what the product should be called and use terms like polish, wax and sealant anyway they want. For instance Nufinish once a year "polish" is not actually a polish but is a sealant.

So as been suggested before clay your car it will make glass like feel and will make any protection last much longer. To be honest i would not bother with polish (true polish with abrasives) if your paint is in reasonable condition. Good idea is borrow some and to try small section of your car to see if it brings more gloss out. If you have tiny swirls than good quality wax/selant should will them up so there is no need to polish.

I have tried lots of waxes out there and have been using carnauba based waxes due to their better gloss than sealants up until i tried Meguiars Ultimate Wax (which is not actually a wax, its fully synthetic so its a sealant). Its simply awesome, it does not stain plastics, lasts for about 3-4 months on a car thats parked outside and is incredibly glossy. it a bit pricey $60, but not when you compare it to things like dodo juice and so on.

Also invest in quick wax (Ultimte quick wax is awesome), after you wash you car quickly spray it on and wipe off, always use separate dry microfibre to take it off (for best results) this will extend your wax protection and will enhance the gloss, do it every second or third wash.

Hay mate

Did u use ultimate liquid or paste wax? Do u suggest a wax ontop off this polish?

Polished once, waxed monthly with meguires tech wax 2.0

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x118/rushy_m/A3F693EF-0FBD-4850-945F-AEC0DCBD0B49-1512-0000016B9A7AF477.jpg

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x118/rushy_m/FC1FCA95-2789-4968-A0B6-D4EC60F64257-1512-0000016B8EEF910C.jpg

Hay mate

Did u use ultimate liquid or paste wax? Do u suggest a wax ontop off this polish?

I always use liquid products, not that i have anything against paste. With megs ultimate wax you dont need to put anything on top as its already glossy as it can get, just do regular touch ups with ultimate quick wax and you wont have to wax again for 6 months or so.

Polished once, waxed monthly with meguires tech wax 2.0

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x118/rushy_m/A3F693EF-0FBD-4850-945F-AEC0DCBD0B49-1512-0000016B9A7AF477.jpg

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x118/rushy_m/FC1FCA95-2789-4968-A0B6-D4EC60F64257-1512-0000016B8EEF910C.jpg

your car looks amazing dude

Wolfs Chemicals Hard Body Nano Sealant on a fully corrected black Alfa Romeo Mito http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww202/cybermonkey24/3A81E2B0-F4FF-4DCB-898D-51D382FF12E7-1507-000000D4D62DBD6B_zps5224c676.jpg

Cars been polished used a light cutting compound witch is very safe then waxed car twice with ultimate wax. Looks amazing:)

Question:
I have just polished my wife's Outlander with Megular's wax (a yellowish cream). Looks good, but from what I have read, will not last long. Is it possible to now put some sealer or maybe Turtle wax over the surface now, using the nice finish of the wax, but the durability of the sealer?

Typically it's done the other way around erad - synthetic sealant first, then topped with a carnauba wax if you desire.

Typically it's done the other way around erad - synthetic sealant first, then topped with a carnauba wax if you desire.

Yes that. Wait until carnauba breaks down (about 1 month), apply sealant then wax on top. I have been using megs gold class carnauba for ages, very easy to apply, great shine and is not expensive but yes its not as durable

@Kurt photos?

Its not as durable because it contains a shit load of silicone, as per most off the shelf stuff. Looks good once applied but after a few weeks it has mostly eroded away

"Typically it's done the other way around erad - synthetic sealant first, then topped with a carnauba wax if you desire. "

That would be right - I usually get things fack to brunt. What will happen in 1 or 2 months time? I guess the sealer coat will strip the remaining wax off before it does its job???

"Typically it's done the other way around erad - synthetic sealant first, then topped with a carnauba wax if you desire. "

That would be right - I usually get things fack to brunt. What will happen in 1 or 2 months time? I guess the sealer coat will strip the remaining wax off before it does its job???

If you are really concerned with remaining wax left, use Megs Deep crystal paint cleaner, its non abrasive, purely chemical, it will remove any residue wax you have and will create better bonding surface for the sealant

Bad picture. But u can see the paintwork has come up very good

http://s1363.photobucket.com/albums/r714/6G75king/?action=view&current=76EED723-E2D9-461D-831F-88275D4900EA-335-000000333B05B0EF_zpsca25cda3.jpg

yes thats shiny alright, nice work