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Meiklejohn
12-06-2013, 03:48 PM
Hi all,

Hoping to get some help,

I recently purchased a TM with only 77,000 km on the clock from one old lady owner.
Having a drama where i went to fill up and the car wouldnt start when i got back in it.

The engine cranks but will not turn over.
I figured fuel pump is stuffed as the battery is brand new. so got dad to give me a tow home where we tested the connections to the fuel pump (all fine) and then figured the pump must be stuffed. BUT the new pump we installed doesn't want to work either. We then tested the old pump off an external source and it works fine!!!! Changed all oils and also spark plugs.
So it goes back in and all is fine for a while (the car is driven maybe one drive of 30-60km per week) and whammy, It's not starting agin.


Does anybody have any clue as to what it could be??? ECU?

Thanks team.


MJ

magnaman89
12-06-2013, 04:13 PM
have you check for spark when turning it over.
is it efi or carby
check for corrosion in the dizzy plug efi
and check that the fuel control relay is not playing up.
welcome to the club mate
picture's of the car please

Meiklejohn
12-06-2013, 04:38 PM
its carby magnaman. Cheers for the welcome! i love the car but its breaking my heart right now. I got it for the wet weather as an alternate to the motorbike. and then it does this as it starts to rain... I'll work on pics etc and have a look for a spark hopefully on sunday

Thanks for the reply!

magna buff
12-06-2013, 04:53 PM
well a carby with low kms can always have problems
if it has been sitting or only short running

try these things and repost

try looking at the coil itself test
by taking off the coil lead and look at the spark it throws to earth

if the wet weather stops it ....try the dissy cap for cracks

pop off the fuel line and wait to see fuel

the electric pump has a fuel relay

rumpfy
12-06-2013, 06:09 PM
Hi MJ,
Just a few comments:
1. The TM had a BAD auto gearbox; so watch out for that; manual was OK. TN and TP had no problems.
2. If your repairs are to consist of swapping parts, you may run out of cash before you get it going.
3. If the car was owned by 'a little old lady', the owners manual is sure to be in your possession. Read it, and particularly the part about, 'How to start the car'. These cars may have a flooding problem in the circumstances you describe.
4. If you suspect fuel pump problems, then check for fuel flow to the carby at either the fuel filter or at the carby; preferably at the carby. You'll have to trace the fuel lines.
5. It is possible to check if the carby fuel bowl has petrol by pressing the accelerator pedal and look down the carby throat to see if petrol is squirting into the inlet manifold. take the aircleaner off to see this.
6. In circumstances you describe, if the car fails to start, wait a few minutes, then press the accelerator pedal fully to the floor and HOLD IT THERE. Then crank the car until it starts.
7. there is an electronic module behind the front passenger left side kick panel. This unit supplies 12 volt to the fuel pump. The pump is operating ONLY when the engine is running or being cranked.
Hope this helps.
rumpfy

magnaman89
14-06-2013, 02:43 AM
just a thought is the new fuel pump an efi one or carby one

rumpfy
14-06-2013, 06:45 PM
As an additional thought:
The ignition system has a electronic module inside the distributor. If this is faulty, there will be no spark. I have had an ignition module go intermittent with much embarrassment. The original is presumably 'Bosch' but in my TP the intermittent module was the aftermarket; so obviously the Bosch failed at some earlier time. The ignition pulse which drives the coil, also drives the fuel relay module AND the tacho. When cranking the engine, if the ignition module is OK it is possible to see that the tacho is sort of operating too. If the tacho is dead as a maggot then maybe the ignition module is stuffed.
The problem in shorting spark plug leads etc to check for spark is the there may be some transient effect which can damage the module(unlikely but possible). I would suggest to check the ignition module is to use another park plug outside the engine to see if you have a spark.
Hope this helps,
rumpfy.