I have just had my TJ lowered at RPW today! :D ! :D

60mm Front
40mm Rear
Lovells all around
KYB Suspension
and an Adjustable Camber Kit

AWESOME STUFF!

Anyways, I had 2 ring Dave back for two reasons, one he had left his phone in my car :) and 2 my Anti Lock light has come on and stayed on. Dave has recommended to disconnect the battery and reset the puter. I'll try it before I go to work tomorrow but just wondering if anyone else has expirienced this after having thier car lowered?

But yeah, nice neat work (what else would you expect from RPW), looks sick, handles soo much better. Really happy with the results! I'll post some pics over the weekend probably.

Have a good time Guys n Gals.

Ivo

Ok,

Starting to get worried, disconnected the battery, light stays on.
Even worse, took my car for a test spin to check out the ABS, it doesn't work at all.

When installing springs/suspension do the brakes or anything as such get taken off/disconnected? I'm sorta hoping at worse it is something that hasn't been put back properly...

Maybe one of the wheel sensors has been knocked about or just been disconected?

Most times when a warning light comes on.... its there for a reason... to say that there is an error.. and i dont think disconecting the battery will fix it :nuts: (not your fault)

Im guessing if one sensor is out, then the whole system is down since it will mess up the actual point of abs...

My guess is Whoever installed your Springs has done some accidental damage or hasnt conenected back the sensors..?

Dont quote me though, since im only reading from my manual that there are Abs sensors on each wheel, and they can be disconected or worse, damaged...

I'm hoping for just disconected...

I'll give him a call tomorrow and see what we can organise. Hopefully sooner than later, don't really wanna run around with my abs outta order.

Mainly due 2 insurance and stuff, u never know :cry:

hey my car is doin the same at the moment, no abs and light is on.

it is def the sensor in the wheel, im not sure where they are spose i should get it looked at

mine didnt come on after lowering though

Just another reason to take all your automotive needs to RPW. :nuts: :bowrofl:

Maybe they left a camshaft in your brakes by accident...

my abs light cam on the other day , think it was couse of wet brakes or inferance from the under car neons

Maybe they left a camshaft in your brakes by accident...


I didn't think i remembered seeing that piece of metal in there before...

What are peoples thoughts on RPW BTW?

Okay guys i think the whole whats your opinnion on RPW thing has been done to death allready in other threads.

Lets stop the RPW bashing before it even gets started in this thread ey. Dave has done a lot for the Magna community and his ride is one awesome beast, sure some people may have had some dealings with RPW (or RPW agents) that they haven't been pleased with but all in all Dave has been more than happy to help most of us out, answers the endless stream of our questions and offer his advice free of charge!

Time people got over their grudges and that we all moved on I think!

Sorry, I didn't mean to start a possible RPW bashing.

I have found Dave very helpful and pleasant to deal with, nor Had I heard anything bad about them until Samuari/Tek...

I was just curious after this.

After my original posts on this thread I took my beast back for Dave 2 have a look at and there is a **** load of grease coming out of the CVs, the back of my rim is coated in it and it is sprayed around the wheel arches.

This has happened with both cv's, an ideas on what may of happened?

I'm taking it back there tomorrow and Dave said I could hang around while they degrease it and take a good look at it insted of organising a lift back home and then a lift to get back out there.

Hopefully it doesn't end up resulting in a trip to mitsubishi to get her fixed :pray:

so he thinks maybe the grease from the cv got into the abs sensor ??
my cv's spilt aswell and i got grease every where,, hmm maybe this might help me out

so he thinks maybe the grease from the cv got into the abs sensor ??
my cv's spilt aswell and i got grease every where,, hmm maybe this might help me out

Dave took it for a test spin just after I arrived to pick the car up and when he got back was the first time i noticed just a little bit of grease on a spoke of my mag but i thought it was just dirt so i didn't pay any attention to it. When i took it back the next day and they took the wheels off to have a look is when they noticed all the grease but i am sure it wasn't there before the lowering.

Anyways, I am hoping that it is one of 2 things:

1) A sensor has been knocked out or not put back properly
2) It says in the owners manual how water etc can have an effect on the abs sensors, which maybe the grease has and once it has been degreased and fixed up it will solve the problem

Hopefully the problem can be resolved quickly and with least effort/cash tomorrow... :pray:

Chances are the abs sensor was knocked. Its easy to do, especially if your not careful and leave the strut hanging on the sensor etc which will damage it quite easy.

As for your CV, whats more than likely happened it your CV boot which is just a rubber boot has cracked or split which would cause all the grease to fly out. This happened on my last magna, providing the CV's weren't without grease for too long its just a matter of getting a new boot and repacking it with grease. Shouldn't cost you anymore than 60-80 per CV. Its a basic job.

Goodluck bud, sounds like you have a nice ride, should bring it down to next cruise.

No luck at RPW today unfortunatly, degreased the whole lot and had a look around but no luck.

Now my baby is now booked in at Mitsubishi to go on the MUT puter, i think its called so they can chase down exactly what is wrong with it. While it is there for that reason i will get them to clean out my brakes as since i got it it has had some brake dust in there and try and get my disc's skimmed under warranty as my car shudders as I brake coz the disc's have warped.

When installing new suspension and springs do you have 2 disconnect the ABS?

ah thats no good, at least u will know excatly wats wrong with it

No you don't have to disconnect the ABS sensor, you just have to detach the ABS tube from the strut (held in by a simple clip). If you forget to do that and pull the strut out you can damage the sensor. I nearly did it myself when installing the springs into the VRX.

so blake where abouts is the sensor ??

wow.. a simple spring change over and now the abs sensor maybe screwed and some cv joint's fuxxored..

Youd think while changing out some springs youd note some wear/perish on the cv boots (as most mechanics would).. Its not like they arent sticking out in your face...
http://members.optusnet.com.au/miltonf/car/strut2.jpg
I believe its attached to the spring in the above link.

Maybe its not re attached properly..
*edit* Dont stock TJ's already come with an adjustable camber kit? Or is that the Sports/VRX and Ralliart only?

The ABS sensor is connected to one of the suspension arms and faces the disc rotor hub.

Im surprised they didn't noticed your CV problem when changing springs, I mean as bain said, they are seriously right in front of you. Hell im not a mechanic and I would certainly notice the grease and wonder where its coming from.

Oh well i hope you get it fixed ok bud. a dud abs sensor should be covered under warranty anyway if RPW doesn't replace it.

*edit* Dont stock TJ's already come with an adjustable camber kit? Or is that the Sports/VRX and Ralliart only?


I hope not 'cos I would have wasted the $300 I spent to have one put in :)


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*edit* Dont stock TJ's already come with an adjustable camber kit? Or is that the Sports/VRX and Ralliart only?

I think the Sports/VR-X has one but the lesser models don't. I'd imagine the Ralliart has it too.

The Ralliart doesn't have adjustable Camber so i doubt a Sports/VRX would have either! :cry:

my sports dont have one, i was told i just need to buy some adjustable camber pins for $40 or somthing :confused:

The Ralliart doesn't have adjustable Camber so i doubt a Sports/VRX would have either! :cry:Well when i put my shocks in i took it down to the suspension place and they told me i didnt need a caster/camber kit as it already had one...

No you don't have to disconnect the ABS sensor, you just have to detach the ABS tube from the strut (held in by a simple clip). If you forget to do that and pull the strut out you can damage the sensor. I nearly did it myself when installing the springs into the VRX.

They told me they don't touch the abs at all... :confused:

Driving around the other day with some of the girls in my car, so for an unusual change the music was down and I noticed especially in car parks I would turn left and as i straighted up the wheel I would hear a "knock" noise come from the right hand side and maybe a slight shudder.

Dave says it is the springs twisting and it happens in his car... ?


The guy at Mitsui gave me a little lecture of how if the ABS fault is a result of the lowering it won't be under warranty etc...

If Mitsu say it was RPW and RPW say it wasn't, where does that leave me? I don't really wanna be stuck with another bill. I think it is more than conincidence that it was fine and then when I drove it off from RPW the light was on and when I talked to Dave he said he noticed it on the test spin after the lowering.

All this crap after a simple lowering :doh:

The pic Bain posted shows how to propperlly fit prings to eliminate the chance of the springs twisting. Your springs weren't put in properlly, while this is not critical it is anoying :confused:

That knock your hearing could be your CV. I've never heard of springs twisting and mine certainly don't make any noise. But im not an expert so don't quote me.

Hrrrm, im surprised dave won't fix your sensor, he has an obligation under relevant legislation to do so here (won't go into the specifics).

You can try go to another dealer. I would reccomend Melville Mitsu as they are very good with warranty work and a bunch of top blokes. Just tell them your sick of your current dealer, and that your ABS light came on. Don't tell them it happened after you lowered it and don't even mention lowering.

Mitsu say that your warranty if void only on parts that are affected by the modification. Jowet has an e-mail with their quote - perhaps search it in the forums. I can hardly see how your ABS is affected by lowering. However if your shock dies then thats a different storey. But braking and suspension, they are two completely different systems.

If you don't have any luck with mitsu, then its time to go back and have a chat to dave. Remember there are government bodies such as DOCEP (Department of consumer and employment protection) that are on your side.

Best of luck bud.

I hope not 'cos I would have wasted the $300 I spent to have one put in :)
$300? Why so much? Or was that labour on other stuff too? I'm asking because I think our kit from Whiteline is a simple bolt that cocst $70 or something like that.

The Ralliart doesn't have adjustable Camber so i doubt a Sports/VRX would have either! :cry:

Well I wouldn't have thought so, but when I was chatting to the guy who does my wheel alignments he mentioned they already had a camber adjustment.

Dave says it is the springs twisting and it happens in his car... ?

Yeah well Dave hasnt put your springs in properly.. Take it back to him, get him to fix the ABS and the springs that hes incorrectly installed.

Did Magical Dave do the install or was it one of his lackies?

He did a great job didnt he! :doubt:


If you don't have any luck with mitsu, then its time to go back and have a chat to dave. Remember there are government bodies such as DOCEP (Department of consumer and employment protection) that are on your side.
I dont believe its a Mitsu problem though.. The fault was only there after the bad install of the springs.. Certainly not covered by Mitsubishi.

No your right, its definatly not Mitsu's but if its going to be easier this way then its allways an option. We all know how hard it can be to get a workshop to admit they screwed up and to rectify the problem.

No your right, its definatly not Mitsu's but if its going to be easier this way then its allways an option. We all know how hard it can be to get a workshop to admit they screwed up and to rectify the problem.Very true.

But if we did that, then said workshops would think they can do bodgey jobs and think 'nah stuff it.. let em go get a warranty job'

The ownus should be put on the people at fault.. Not the manufacturer.

Very true.

But if we did that, then said workshops would think they can do bodgey jobs and think 'nah stuff it.. let em go get a warranty job'

The ownus should be put on the people at fault.. Not the manufacturer.

I agree *dam you bain, always right! lol*

All i can say is best of luck to Icarian and hope he can resolve the situation with dave. Worst case senario, hopefully he can get the problem fixed under warranty.

I agree *dam you bain, always right! lol*

All i can say is best of luck to Icarian and hope he can resolve the situation with dave. Worst case senario, hopefully he can get the problem fixed under warranty.
lol

Yeah I hope he gets it all fixed aswell.

That knock your hearing could be your CV. I've never heard of springs twisting and mine certainly don't make any noise. But im not an expert so don't quote me.

Hrrrm, im surprised dave won't fix your sensor, he has an obligation under relevant legislation to do so here (won't go into the specifics).

Best of luck bud.

Its not that he won't fix it, he just can't tell with his system exactly which sensor it is, so my car is off to Mitsu this morning after I chill out after work and get -some- sleep so they can stick it on thier puter, get a reading to see exactly where the problem is comnig from.

If it is conincidence, they will fix it under warranty, if it is caused by work RPW has done I'll take it back to RPW and Dave will fix it, I spoke to him this morning and made sure of that. Once I know what is going on, I will let Dave know and also talk to him again about the noise front the spring.

The annoying thing is I know this will result with being some stupid tiny little thing causing this mess... Damn those tiny little things. :doh:

I know **** happens, we all have done something not quite right or ****ed something up atleast once in our lives. Its just harder for me as I am a shift worker, so i get home late, have to -try- to get out of bed/get kicked/pulled/slapped outta bed after stuff all sleep, get my car to place X, get home, get to work, then leave work, get car and go back again.

The times i need to get to work and when I can get outta work 2 go get the car don't coincide with "Normal Peoples" times so its just more of a pain than anything. I need to get a job with "normal times"

Enough doom and gloom, hopefully it all works out quickly and painlessly. While I have the car at Mitsu I will have them check the cvs, try and get the disc's skimmed under warranty and clean out my brakes since there has always been some disc pad noise, you know the rubbing sorta noise? but couldn't be bothered taking it off road for such petty reasons. If they won't do that stuff under warranty, i'll just get mates rates some where.

I'm going to Vic park as it is reasonably close and thats where I bought the car from...

Thanks for everybodies advice/help and good luck wishes

Ok, car has been at Mitsu today, just got a call from them. They think that the sensor in the front left wheel has gone. So they are ordering the part from over east, so hopefully it is here Monday.

I was sorta hoping to have a 100% answer saying "it is definately problem X" and would of prefered "We have the part in the work shop" but hey, you can't win them all.

Hopefully that will solve that problem, good think though, it will be done under warranty.

Once my car stops getting jacked up every other day and it actually has a chance to settle it would be nice 2 see where it sits. :2cool: and I might finally get a chance to get some pics online.

Latta Peoples

Was the front-left wheel the one with the snafu'd CV joint boot?

Was the front-left wheel the one with the snafu'd CV joint boot?

Both CV joints spat out alot of grease... After it was degreased and cleaned up it doesn't seem to have anymore in there. I will have a good look on the weekend though.

I Quote Bain "Magical Dave"

Had my car back at Mitsubishi on Tuesday, they installed the new sensor and the ABS worked perfectly now. Had to test it on the way back from work, you know, for comfort of mind... :)

Anyways, just one more damn trip out to RPW, jsut getting a pain lately with the car. Then its off to the panel beaters after I have this spring re-alligned to get quotes for my rear bumper :(

Does a rear bumper need much "visual" damage before it needs replacing? My friend who has worked with his uncle who is a panel beater says it will be a new bumper job.

Went back 2 RPW 2day, Rob went for a test spin with me, took it back and began work.

Removed the suspension etc had a look, removed some lil stones that were down the bottom of the spring and had a look around, put it back in and presto!

No clunk!

And best of all, ABS is still working properly :D Finally, done, fixed.

Now for the quote to get my bumper fixed.

Went back 2 RPW 2day, Rob went for a test spin with me, took it back and began work.

Removed the suspension etc had a look, removed some lil stones that were down the bottom of the spring and had a look around, put it back in and presto!

No clunk!

And best of all, ABS is still working properly :D Finally, done, fixed.

Now for the quote to get my bumper fixed.
Good to hear mate!