View Full Version : HID Conversion on TJ Verada
pocko
11-08-2013, 04:15 PM
Hey guys been looking through the threads to see if anyone has done HID conversion on a TJ Verada and how hard it is to do.
cheers
HaydenVRX
11-08-2013, 04:59 PM
Its alot of work. You need to find what projector lenses fit, open the headlights. Retrofit the projectors then wire in the hid. You can put the hid in without a projector lense but ita pretty dangerous to other motorists.
Red Valdez
11-08-2013, 05:05 PM
Plenty of people have. Have a search through the forums.
If you want to go down the HID path you really need to do a projector retrofit, as you will get the most vision out of the HIDs and you will avoiding blinding other motorists.
steve_bunkle
19-08-2013, 10:47 AM
Technically if the police want to be picky, they also need self levellers and washers to meet most state laws. Mind you properly fitted projectors don't blind people as much as all the fog lights used all the time.. My pet hate......
Tee Jay 2
19-08-2013, 12:26 PM
I have had HID's in my Magna (which has parabolic headlights) for well over a year now WITHOUT projectors. The light is sensational and they do not blind other drivers if you aim them correctly. I have passed and been passed by many a police car, booze bus etc and have never been touched. I put 6000K HID's in which give you a pure white light. Not blue like most you see around. They are a very easy fit to the parabolic headlights.
Jakeys
19-08-2013, 12:42 PM
The light is sensational and they do not blind other drivers if you aim them correctly.
I'll avoid starting a direct debate on this because it's been done many a time, but I will chuck my personal 2c in, pocko, if you go this way, to do it properly you must put them in projectors. HID bulbs are not designed for reflector housings, they are obvious, very illegal, and there is no way (Again, personal opinion based on my research and understanding of light output) that you can put HID globes in that they will not increase danger levels for other motorists and risk impairing their vision. It's just the way they work, no amount of standard adjustment will change that they have a different and more powerful spread, beyond the specifications of the housing. It also looks ridiculous, to me anyway, though I know some others do like the look. All that said, there is no denying you will see better with them because rather than an aimed/compliant beam, they just throw light out everywhere without a projector lens, that's why they're a lot better for you and a lot worse for all the other motorists who have the misfortune of coming the other way in a lot of conditions.
Tee Jay 2
19-08-2013, 12:46 PM
Its a shame you are not in Vic Pocko or i could show you just how good they are. I could also show you they have a defined line where the beam stops therefore they are not spread everywhere.
Jakeys
19-08-2013, 01:02 PM
Rather than pointlessly debate this, I suggest pocko do some research and draw a conclusion for himself: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=hid+globes+in+reflectors
maggie3.5
19-08-2013, 01:22 PM
Its a shame you are not in Vic Pocko or i could show you just how good they are. I could also show you they have a defined line where the beam stops therefore they are not spread everywhere.
this ^^ lmao
+ 1 for retro fitted projectors.
I used to run HID's in my parabolics @ 8000K colour temp on low beams & 5000k on high beams. Tee Jay 2 I agree that while they are sensational in their lighting up the road, even adjusted down, I would still get the high beam flicker from several annoyed motorists who thought that I was on high beam.
All the same, by ADR they are illegal, as the parabolic reflector's geometry are not designed for the intensity & throw pattern of HIDs. Also as has previously been mentioned, HID's are supposed to be self leveling & have headlight washers fitted in order to be classified as ADR compliant & I believe 6000k is the highest legal colour temp you can run (in OEM cars anyway). There is no way around this fact, which is why I went back to incandesent globes again (Philips diamond vision high & low beam) as I don't have the funds at present to splash out on projector HID retro fits as they are quite expensive.
I have heard about magna owners using fibreglass headlight "eyebrows" which clip over the top of the headlights and they do block some of the HID's on coming glare when used in reflectors. Better than nothing but still not legal.
Having had HID's in my ride Pocky, my suggestion is that unless you want to go the whole hog and do a proper & legit retro fit (I think forum member loudz creations can sell you complete HID projector headlights as an exchange service or outright purchase - that's if he's still around)
then you otherwise might be better off getting a new set of H7/H1 globes like the philips x-treme vision which will give you pretty much double the light volume from a direct fit replacement:
http://www.lighting.philips.com.au/v2/automotive/productrange.jsp?id=1088066&app=car_&vp=more light&va=more light#0
Or go diamond vision for more white light (but not as bright as the X-treme vision). I have these and they provide more white with perhaps a little higher output intensity over standard globes.
http://www.lighting.philips.com.au/v2/automotive/productrange.jsp?id=1012958&app=car_&vp=white light_car&va=white light_car
These are incandesent globes like you've already got just better quality. And yes they are a standard 12v 55/60watt so you don't need to upgrade your wiring to benefit. Go either Philips or Osram as they are as good as each other, or alternatively, you can go Narva which are close in quality.
Any other brand is potentially (and most likely crap and won't last as long).
Lastly, how's the colour & condition of your headlights? If you have the polycarbonate (plastic) lenses are they clear or going milky or yellow? If so then look at getting a headlight restoration kit (rainx is good) from your local auto parts place as that makes a massive difference to quality and volume of the lighting when they have been rejuvenated.
Red Valdez
19-08-2013, 05:00 PM
Its a shame you are not in Vic Pocko or i could show you just how good they are. I could also show you they have a defined line where the beam stops therefore they are not spread everywhere.
I would beg to differ.
Projector retrofit with 5000k bulbs on the left, and 6000k bulbs in standard reflectors on the right:
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd31/89djm/IMG_2476.jpg
Just to support what Red Valdez said. I had 6000k HIDS fitted to my parabolics. Yes light was good, but too much scatter
Fitted HID QUAD projectors. Much better and much more legal.
Before Cutoff line
Poor Picture but was the best i had
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x118/rushy_m/20121006_204532.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/rushy_m/media/20121006_204532.jpg.html)
After Cutoff line
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/995791_10201185108543901_890008521_n.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x118/rushy_m/20130523_190937.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/rushy_m/media/20130523_190937.jpg.html)
Few other pictures
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x118/rushy_m/1146870_10201129269547961_1984072415_o.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x118/rushy_m/hdr_1375776624893.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x118/rushy_m/hdr_1376292504809.jpg
shezza
22-08-2013, 08:41 PM
I have heard good about Morimoto Mini Projectors. They are reasonably priced, good quality kits and fairly easy to install. Though the better performing ones are harder to install.
HIDs will always blind someone. Legal set up or not. We have all been hit in the eye by OEM HID set ups, so imagine without the auto-levelling. Though the fact is, most set ups are "whack it straight in" types... So if you install projectors with a cut off, you virtually deserve a medal! Good luck
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