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stayer
26-08-2013, 04:40 PM
Hi people! So many times heard that reflash Mitsubishi 380 not possible. I was American cars 9G galant and 4G Eclipse. Some international members read my topics on the forum 4G.
http://club4g.org/board/tuning-electronics/28728-ecu-reflash-russia.html
And performance feedback.
http://club4g.org/board/tuning-electronics/29793-stayer-ecu-reflash-review.html
However, Bosch ECU 380 Mitsi could not get my hands on. I managed to persuade one member send me your ECU. It has been a long, parcel in Russia was more than a month. However, I received ECU.
http://s57.radikal.ru/i157/1308/80/40abc72f25dd.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/9476d053ac5f4f3ebc25c64828250f9f)
stayer
26-08-2013, 04:43 PM
It was incredibly frustrating. Factory engineers Mitsubishi refused to cooperate with me. However, there is no such ECU which cannot be reflash. Your ECU contains a separate flash memory.
http://s020.radikal.ru/i709/1308/7a/dbb9929c0baf.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/294eab9fde4a46c6b1c313f1f5fd343c)
http://s019.radikal.ru/i604/1308/44/c1b9543a1142.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/65eb0e9e9c4f4f18a910e986629e7062)
stayer
26-08-2013, 04:45 PM
I had to get the flash memory and chip EEPROM.
http://s018.radikal.ru/i526/1308/cb/c0a10ddb9d44.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/79e07877660f4a40aeb17129ce24a64c)
stayer
26-08-2013, 04:47 PM
It took a lot of time.
http://s018.radikal.ru/i506/1308/37/48fe3eac54b9.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/51221f460fc84a4eb7ea542144d150ae)
http://s020.radikal.ru/i711/1308/b1/498af8bba0f8.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/368fe7cbb4c24971a888eb6261150025)
stayer
26-08-2013, 04:51 PM
When I received the information that was very much surprised. Firmware Mitsubishi 380 similar to the American 9G Galant V6.
http://s019.radikal.ru/i634/1308/47/603c4be79204.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/5befd02c7c6846409e94bf30eb407c31)
http://s020.radikal.ru/i722/1308/7a/4362369b93df.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/2f9bd6b6ba92451ebba978e62cebc939)
stayer
26-08-2013, 04:53 PM
The biggest challenge is the calculation of the checksum. However, this problem can be solved.
http://s020.radikal.ru/i715/1308/5c/91c4ed9061a1.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/417d81eb483d4eeaa193165027bb49a8)
http://s60.radikal.ru/i168/1308/05/090b7fcf3645.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/28ca97ea01e6459c9b39fe56bbb93f27)
Disabling the rear oxygen sensor, speed limit and turnover limit is not a problem. And Mitsubishi engineers still don't believe. Heh-heh-heh.
stayer
26-08-2013, 04:54 PM
It now remains to forward it to you. Anyone is interested?
PerryP
26-08-2013, 08:58 PM
You are the greatest thing that ever happened to my life.
I'd be fairly interested.
stayer
26-08-2013, 10:25 PM
It will be decided in the near future. You can do this in Australia.
physicx
27-08-2013, 06:15 AM
I'm sure the select few who have the oxy sensor problem as a result of the extractors will be glad to hear this.
Mitsu Miyagi
27-08-2013, 07:06 AM
nice work stayer !!!
qclub
27-08-2013, 09:24 AM
this will be good for a turbo 380.
stayer
27-08-2013, 10:18 AM
No, the reflash for the atmospheric motor is not running for the turbo. Wait a little. I will discuss with the dealer in Australia. If I give him the necessary equipment, it can do so by not sending ECU in Russia. In this case, it is possible settings online. This will give the opportunity to configure a turbo or supercharger.
I think, residents in the state of Victoria were the first to experience it.
chrisby
28-08-2013, 07:02 AM
im defiantly interested, RPW claimed to have gotten through the computer but when I called them they weren't very confident.
Grubco
28-08-2013, 03:27 PM
This is great news if you succeed. As mentioned, a few companies here claim to have done or in process of doing it now... but no one has actually done it yet (so far as I know).
chrisv
28-08-2013, 06:13 PM
What will the benefits be?
stayer
28-08-2013, 06:33 PM
What will the benefits be?
It will be so. I have the following (standard reflash):
1)Disable the rear oxygen sensors. This will allow you to remove cats, install optimized exhaust manifolds. Eliminate errors on oxygen sensors.
2) Programmatically connect the power mode. What is it? This mode is configured factory engineers, but disabled. This is done to implement the environmental standards. However, as ride a horse which has a broken leg?
3) I will remove the speed limit. It cannot be turned off completely, but you can set the limit of 500 km/H.
4) Optimization of fuel injection and ignition advance angle.
5) for more your wishes......
stayer
30-08-2013, 06:59 PM
All firmware is contained in the flash memory. This fully corresponds to the firmware American 9G Galant 2004 V6 230hp. The size of 512K. I want to say firmware is not just similar. They are 100%identical. Obviously, this is done by one developer. Only American 9g does not use flash memory. And with the 2006 model year becomes 768К. Australian remains the same 512K.
At the moment I'm looking for a way to reflash without solder the chip. It's possible, but I need ECU pinout.
Chip eeprom contains information VIN and electronic immobilizer keys.
veeone
31-08-2013, 11:56 AM
but you can set the limit of 500 km/H.
That will do nicely!!
Warp speed captain!! Vee
Luddite
01-09-2013, 04:30 PM
Wow... All we needed was a Russian Rocket scientist...
Thanks!!
slowtl
14-09-2013, 04:11 PM
All firmware is contained in the flash memory. This fully corresponds to the firmware American 9G Galant 2004 V6 230hp. The size of 512K. I want to say firmware is not just similar. They are 100%identical. Obviously, this is done by one developer. Only American 9g does not use flash memory. And with the 2006 model year becomes 768К. Australian remains the same 512K.
At the moment I'm looking for a way to reflash without solder the chip. It's possible, but I need ECU pinout.
Chip eeprom contains information VIN and electronic immobilizer keys.
Great work, I am interested in this thread.
stayer
04-12-2013, 04:52 PM
So. Everything is done. Developed a system for read and write ECU. Now ECU is already in Australia and tested. I deliberately did not specify the price. Because there is no agreement with the administration of the site AMC.
I previously negotiated with the person in Australia. But he doesn't want to or can't do reflash. So there are two ways to get reflash.
The first way. It is necessary to remove the ECU from the car. Send mail in Russia. I'll do you, and send you back. However, as you understand, it is long enough. Shipping usually takes 2 weeks to one end. And the same back. In the end, you will receive ECU, set in a car, and you can ride.
The second method. This is more complicated and expensive. But it's worth it. In this method of reflashing do on the spot. In Australia. You need to buy the electronic unit. Using this unit will do the reflashing. With the help of this unit, you can reflashing 80% of all cars in the world. You can also configure the turbo or supercharger.
Now I will tell you how to do reading and writing for the Bosch ECU 380.
stayer
04-12-2013, 05:34 PM
Together with the electronic unit included a wire. It is necessary to remove the ECU. Connect cables according to order related wiring diagram.
http://i024.radikal.ru/1312/9f/5a8398d79453.png (http://radikal.ru/fp/27eca412b4a545c3bf364b7babcdbc97)
But it's not enough to read and write. We need to open the cover of the ECU. Inside there is a patch for soldering (Noted in red.)
http://s019.radikal.ru/i618/1312/7c/67e907ce7fe3.png (http://radikal.ru/fp/95fee206f5454af091014ca6c85aca5a)
We need to solder 2 wires. (I'll tell you what).
stayer
04-12-2013, 05:38 PM
After all the connections, you can read the ECU. The file which you receive, you are sending the email to me. I do reflash. I send you a new file. You do write ECU. The way it works.
stayer
04-12-2013, 05:57 PM
At the moment made the average level of reflash. Shut off the rear O2 sensors. You can now install optimized exhaust headers. For example such
http://s004.radikal.ru/i207/1312/06/3eb6481d0241.jpg (http://radikal.ru/fp/212d278426ac48d38f0eeb1472b3acab)
With the permission of the owner to show the video
http://youtu.be/H-oOCh92T5s
stayer
04-12-2013, 06:02 PM
Well as connected to the power mode. This gives a good acceleration. Just give fuel economy approximately 2 litres per 100 km.
Grubco
04-12-2013, 06:38 PM
Very good write up!
PerryP
04-12-2013, 10:02 PM
We're finally getting somewhere with these stubborn ECU's. Hopefully these will be more easily/widely available in Australia soon
Madmagna
05-12-2013, 05:25 AM
Great write up mate, glad to see some progress on this
If yo want, I may be willing to be on the Australian end for you, I have access to many ECU's here as I wreck a lot of 380's, would need to chat to you about software and cables but I am sure that is only a minor part of the process
slowtl
07-12-2013, 11:17 AM
GREAT WORK! 2 litres per 100km in fuel economy sounds excellent!
macropod
07-12-2013, 11:51 AM
:think::think:
GREAT WORK! 2 litres per 100km in fuel economy sounds excellent!
I think he means an improvement of 2l/100km, not a reduction to 2l/100km:think:; otherwise he'd risk being trampled in the stampede... :eeek:
slowtl
02-01-2014, 10:32 AM
:think::think:
I think he means an improvement of 2l/100km, not a reduction to 2l/100km:think:; otherwise he'd risk being trampled in the stampede... :eeek:
The reduction is what I meant. The 2 litres per 100km is the difference between my TL & 380 around town.
slowtl
05-02-2015, 02:23 PM
After all the connections, you can read the ECU. The file which you receive, you are sending the email to me. I do reflash. I send you a new file. You do write ECU. The way it works.
Any more news on this stayer? location , prices etc
stayer
14-05-2015, 10:32 PM
Any more news on this stayer? location , prices etc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301632527178?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
Here is my link to ebey. Where indicated, except that the Australian 380. However, it is not. I likewise continue to do ECU Bosch for Mitsi 380. Just administration ebey does not allow me to create additional sales. All that is written for the American and European models, is also available for Australia.
In Australia no one wanted to distribute firmware and earn money for themselves. So we're left with only one option. To send the ECU to Russia.
PerryP
15-05-2015, 01:28 AM
Can you tune the Air-Fuel ratios?
stayer
15-05-2015, 04:01 AM
Can you tune the Air-Fuel ratios?
Yes, this is possible. Wideband lambda sensor and the load (preferably the chassis dynamometer) or road. Plus must be able to write the new settings in the ECU. What I described above, it is ready to tune. It does not require any more changes. If you need to configure turbo or supercharger, it's the other money. It is required that the ECU was in the car and not in Russia.
By no means to torpedo potential sales but...
-Don't forget to tell them that when they get the ECU back from Russia it will have a ton of resin inside to protect "intellectual property".
Also....the check airbag code will be on, so they will need a MUT3 to clear that ....no other way will do it.
I don't know if they will all be like that, but the sample unit was.
I can make the sample unit available to people in Victoria but it entails a small fee (to make it work on the car)
stayer
16-05-2015, 02:19 AM
^^^ Indeed, we overestimated your skills, John. At the moment there is no need in the resin. We were able to defend their property, now you cannot read it, only to record a new. With regards to SRS, we don't need to switch the ignition on if the ECU is missing on the car. And everything will be fine. You just have to remove the ECU, send it to Russia, then to get back the finished product.
blockhead
16-05-2015, 06:32 AM
Has anybody done this on a daily driver yet? Zilo, can the sample unit be utilised on any car for evaluation?
Stayer, what's your success rate on these? Are there any problems with the reflashed 380 ECU's that are still unresolved?
stayer
16-05-2015, 10:58 AM
Has anybody done this on a daily driver yet? Zilo, can the sample unit be utilised on any car for evaluation?
Stayer, what's your success rate on these? Are there any problems with the reflashed 380 ECU's that are still unresolved?
The ECU 380 opened 2 years ago. What it (Zilo) offers for the sample has nothing to do with what we have now. Everything described in the link ebey for American and European models, is available for Australian 380.
Of course, ECU Bosch remains a tough nut to crack. For reading and writing need to use a soldering iron. We and several companies are trying to make a loader or flasher (for read and write via OBD II). However, work is almost non-existent. We thought it was useless. The market is missing. The model is out of production. Yes and in Australia is not particularly want to reflash their cars. But nevertheless, we reserve the possibility to anyone who wishes to do so.
stayer
16-05-2015, 11:21 AM
As I explained to one person, 300$ (without shipping) this is a high price for Australia. And that no one will agree reflash for the price. However, we sell software worldwide and the price is anywhere between 300 and 500. This is normal. Especially when so cranky ECU.
I didn't bring up the topic. Asked about this Slowtl. My suggestions for Australia remain the same as 2 years ago.
Has anybody done this on a daily driver yet? Zilo, can the sample unit be utilised on any car for evaluation?
Stayer, what's your success rate on these? Are there any problems with the reflashed 380 ECU's that are still unresolved?
I could not find any difference with the reflashed ECU apart from O2 errors didn't light up the dashboard.
I think I left the ECU in one of the cars I sold recently...
stayer
16-05-2015, 09:03 PM
I could not find any difference with the reflashed ECU apart from O2 errors didn't light up the dashboard.
With you extremely difficult to negotiate. We also were not eager to give a reason. We also were not eager to give up everything. We initially agreed that we will be able to read and write this ECU. At the last moment we left you that would show that the ECU can read and write. The more that you haven't paid a dime. True, the combat version, not free.
With you extremely difficult to negotiate. We also were not eager to give a reason. We also were not eager to give up everything. We initially agreed that we will be able to read and write this ECU. At the last moment we left you that would show that the ECU can read and write. The more that you haven't paid a dime. True, the combat version, not free.
I am pretty sure that you could not have tuned anything on the 380 ECU without my help.
I paid a lot of postage to help you maybe make a lot of money.
Me ...I got an ECU that doesn't complain about an oxygen sensor warning.
I owe you nothing, you are too greedy.
slowtl
17-05-2015, 06:25 PM
Hi Stayer,
I appreciate the response. I am interested but use my car for work. I would have to wait until the end of the year Christmas holiday time to sent the ECU. How long does postage take each way?
stayer
18-05-2015, 11:25 AM
If you send by regular post, then I think 2 weeks. If Express shipping, we hope will be faster.
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