Hi,
On both my TJ and TF the brake height is about 130mm and 140mm where it should be >165mm.
Also on both cars, with the engine running I can push the brake pedal all the way to the end.
I can't find anything wrong and have bled the brakes on the TJ with no change.
I have tried pumping the brake, pressing them quickly, pressing them gently for a while ... all behave normally.
It has enough braking to stop abruptly, haven't tried to lock the wheels yet.
Is this normal? I have never had a car before where I could press the pedal to the end unless there was a problem, but this doesn't have any other symptoms. All I can think of doing is overhauling the master cylinder.
Thanks

TJ 2000 3.0L auto wagon executive
TF 1998 3.0L auto sedan solara

Not normal. How are you bleeding them?
Air in the system or an internal leak in the master cylinder. No leaks on the calipers visible, I assume?

I've noticed on a few cars that if you are idling and push hard on the pedal it will sink all the way down. Never had a problem with braking. Prehaps you could go out to quiet area and try a few hard stops to see if they are working.

Presume its the pedal and not the braking system

might be a leak in the brake booster, try turning the ignition off and see if it does the same thing.

Not normal. How are you bleeding them?
Air in the system or an internal leak in the master cylinder. No leaks on the calipers visible, I assume?
No visible leaks. Bled with a hose and bottle flushed with new fluid, should be good - didn't notice any difference afterwards :(

might be a leak in the brake booster, try turning the ignition off and see if it does the same thing.
Cant press it to the end with the engine off - it doesn't seem to be the classic small leak in the master cylinder.