Just curious,
has one else fitted those brighter LED reverse, indicator and brake lights globs you can get off ebay?

Wondering if they fit my TW's tail lights?
Was planning on getting enough to replace all globes on the back end, just because they are a cheap upgrade, or don't they fit?

Sorry if its a dumb question :/

Here are the links to the globes in question;

reverse: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Cree-T20-Cold-White-Car-Wedge-LED-Q5-Reverse-Backup-Light-Bulb-7W-DC12V-30V-D0X8-/231025327614?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35ca2ebdfe

brake: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Auto-2-X-T20-9-LED-Car-Turn-Tail-Brake-Light-Lamp-Bulb-Red-/400364163829?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d379052f5

indicator: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Auto-2-X-T20-9-LED-Car-Turn-Tail-Brake-Light-Lamp-Bulb-Amber-/360537463916?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53f1b51c6c

Thanks,
fordy.

To be blunt ....they are all pretty crap and wont do much at all....the cree one is not bad ,but there are better versions out there with the rear firing light and side firing ones on the body of the globe.

The problem with the ones you have listed ,and most led for that matter ,is the fact that they are very directional in the lighting ,and wont "fill" the required area with light ,leading to an actually dimmer appearance ,even though they are led.

You are fairly fortunate in that you have TW lens and these are way clearer than the other models,but ,you still need lots of light.

Ultimately ,you need these for the best of both worlds ,but im not to sure that they would fit ,i have always wanted to try out a set.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/40-LED-1157-BAY15D-5050-SMD-5-Claws-Spider-Car-Brake-Tail-Stop-Turn-Light-Red-/310751546007?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item485a3c4a97


http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/Car-Truck-Parts-/6030/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=led+spider



Not saying these are what you should get ,but ,it gives you an idea of the different styles available.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-x-T10-T15-7-5W-Lens-Cree-Q5-High-Power-Car-Signal-Tail-Turn-LED-Light-Bulb-/321211348388?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ac9b035a4

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2X-T25-30W-6-Cree-LED-Car-Auto-Turn-Signal-Backup-Reverse-Light-Lamp-3156-3157-/111059644208?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19dbabaf30

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SMD-5050-BA15S-7W-CREE-Q5-Car-Wedge-LED-Turn-Tail-Light-Reverse-Bulb-White-K0E1-/370885170205?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item565a7a941d

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/Car-Truck-Parts-/6030/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=led+spider+t20&LH_PrefLoc=2

The only ones I've considered getting are the Cree reverse ones just so that there is more light when reversing.
Anyone have any experience of whether this works or not?

The only ones I've considered getting are the Cree reverse ones just so that there is more light when reversing.
Anyone have any experience of whether this works or not?

Those are very directional. I put some in my TJ reversing lights, not the Cree but ones with side LEDs on them. From the rear they are bright, from the driver's seat I don't even know if they are on. In other words, bright, yes - spread, no. The scenery behind the car you want lit up, doesn't. I've still got the original globes which are going back in, the LEDs are going into the bin. In short, don't bother, stick to incandescent globes.

The spider ones may be better, but pricey.

Ok thanks Maggie and others for your advice, just thought I'll modernize the rear of my beloved TW with some cheap LED's, I'll check out the ones you recommended then

MadMax, I have a Cree torch in the car and it produces a very impressive amount of light, and is fairly spread out (though the spread is adjustable on the torch).
I would have thought the Cree reverse lights would be like mini headlights back there

I have a number of LED torches based on the Cree XML T6 LEDs. The little tail light globes are not in the same league for light output. Anyway, you want a good spread out the back, rather than a focused headlight type beam.

Tex has the cree ones in his TL VRX and I am not impressed with them at all although they will be better then the cheap led's they sell. The best option is for a reverse H.I.D. kit you can buy off ebay. From memory the closest normal bulb if you wanted to cheap out is the H7 H.I.D bulbs and put a delay on them if you have a auto so they dont flick on every time you go from park to drive

Tex has the cree ones in his TL VRX and I am not impressed with them at all although they will be better then the cheap led's they sell.

The best option is for a reverse H.I.D. kit you can buy off ebay.

From memory the closest normal bulb if you wanted to cheap out is the H7 H.I.D bulbs and put a delay on them if you have a auto so they dont flick on every time you go from park to drive

i was going to post about this but didnt,but seeing as you have....

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1%257C 72%253A2390&_from=R40&_sc=1&_sacat=0&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSRCHX%3ASRCH&_nkw=hid+reverse+light+kit&LH_PrefLoc=2&_sop=15


bit pricey for what they are ,but at least the globe size has variations to suit.

Like Tania said ,you could put a 35watt hid kit in there ....i have....you want bright...lol..

nothing compares to having HID in your reverse lights.

While I already have this thread open, I was thinking of going about changing the interior lights on the rood (The ones with the buttons near the windscreen)
Changing them to some white lED's, is that particular part hard to get off or just a matter of wiggle and jiggle of the assembly?

Just looking at this thread and I noticed the globes your after are not the correct ones, you need t10 globes for reverse and indicator and dual filament t20's for brake/tail lights.. As for replacing them with LEDs I've done my tl and they are miles brighter.. As MadMax said they are very directional so I replaced my original 5 LEDs with 20 for the t10's and 68 LEDs for the brake/tail lights, which were only cheap $2 LEDs off eBay and I've had for 18 months without any problems

I replaced my original 5 LEDs with 20 for the t10's and 68 LEDs for the brake/tail lights, s
What does this mean? The TL doesnt originally have LED's, except in the high level brake light? 68 LEDs sounds like a lot, can you provide a link?

I was referring to the amount of led blocks on each globe that I'm I'm using, and yes 68 is a lot ha ha

http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/140948798162?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1

Sorry didn't read the question properly, I brought some LEDs that only had 5 led blocks on each globe but it wasn't enough light coverage, especially for the indicators so I replaced them with more LEDs to fill in the spaces that weren't being lit up

I was referring to the amount of led blocks on each globe that I'm I'm using, and yes 68 is a lot ha ha

http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/140948798162?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1

Those may actually work well. Those are replacements for the dual filament T20 globes? Do you get a good spread and increased brightness with those?

Which T10s did you get?

28 LED T10s on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-T10-194-W5W-28-LED-1206-SMD-Car-Side-Wedge-Light-Lamp-Bulb-12V-Day-White-New-/130981267814?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e7f178966&_uhb=1

I'm kind of paranoid about the filament globes going out randomly, LEDs fix that problem. lol

Those indicators you posted a link too on the first page, I have similar to those, my indicators are now brighter and shine further then my brake or park lights

Don't waste money on cheap LEDs, eps for the latter models with clear lenses. Get the V-LED ones. You will expect to pay more than double but they are by far better than anything else available.

Yeah the link is for the dual filament brake/tail lights, and they have perfect coverage.. And yes they are the same t10's as I have in my car for my indicators and reverse lights.

As for vlads comment, your probably right about going with the V-LED's however as I said I've had mine in for around 18 months and never had a problem and they easily exceed the standard incandescent globe brightness, so I'm happy with them anyway

I'll try Kevvy's ones as I don't wanna spend to much on something that isn't broken, just looking at doing a cheap upgrade

A quick note, you'll loose your cruise control using LEDs for you brake lights, not sure why but vlad has had the same problem, not sure if he's worked out a way around it or not.. And if you get led indicators you will need a led relay to replace the standard one otherwise they flash quickly.. My relay was only a cheapy off eBay as well

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y510/kevvy07/image_zps6f9878ca.jpg (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/kevvy07/media/image_zps6f9878ca.jpg.html)

These were my first LEDs I purchased off eBay, they are only a single direction though so as you can see they only light up the centre and a ring around the outside of the brake light.. They look awesome and bright at night but were barely visible during the day when in direct sunlight so I replaced them seeing as I didn't wanna get rear ended

I've messed around with a lot of leds and find you do kind of get what you pay for. Hence me spending 40 on reverse lights and100 on brake/tail. Though they are miles better than any rubbish I bought off eBay. If it hasn't already been mentioned, brake/tail can mess with your cruise control. The ones I got are high powered leds so I don't have that problem. The other common one is brake vs tail intensity difference being too marginal. So look out for that. It needs to be clear that you've hit the brakes in the daylight at a distance. As for an interior globe, panels are pretty much the most powerful, but unless you put some effort into mounting them, it just sits on the lens. I've found a super bright one though that's very much like a panels brightness. I highly recommend going warm white. White is great to look at, but very uncomfortable! If you are still adamant that you want white, PM me.

The ones I got are high powered leds so I don't have that problem.
Links, please?

kw, search for v-leds or vleds on ebay or google. $100 is for a pair delivered.

They arent a straight fit. And the brakes are incredibly bright (They use Rebel LEDs which are right up there)! They run through a control module which kind of makes lowering the brake alone a bit messier than putting a resistor inline. Im running it through a changeover relay switched by the brake through and that is working for me. Also, if you look at the back of the lens where you lock the globe fitting in, you have to grind down all the protruding pieces and make it flat like the rest of the backing. Then it is a great fit. It is a commitment, but the self service wreckers are full of TJs, so not the biggest worry!
Here is the link http://www.vleds.com/v3-triton/bulb-system/v3-r.html

I couldnt find them elsewhere when I got them, but as I was getting the reverse lights anyway, it wasnt so relevant. Shipping is hardly cheap and it took around 3 weeks to get here. Still worth it. Last thing... if you end up buying through the website, here is a 10% of coupon code 10off1013

The problem with adding a switched relay to a brake light is that it may introduce a delay...the whole idea of fitting a LED brake light is it lights up faster than a normal bulb. Well at least thats what the marketing hype leads us to believe. (talking milliseconds here)

Whatever the outcome make sure your brake lights work (I personally wouldn't touch them)...if they fail and and the car is involved in a rear end accident, it could get nasty if they find they have been changed to a "home built" system.

There is little if any delay. Though I will investigate to confirm this.

I hate how much you make sense though! :/ I did not consider this and now Im $170 deep. I opened up the controller hoping I could add a resistor inside it, though it was siliconed. Of course $170 could be cheap comparatively, though I dont think I could convince myself to do the mature thing. Would have been a different story if I was in KW's position, but ah well!

The problem with adding a switched relay to a brake light is that it may introduce a delay...the whole idea of fitting a LED brake light is it lights up faster than a normal bulb.
Yes, I've noticed they are quicker, certainly they reach maximum brightness long before normal filament globes.
Actually, i have a theory that these LEDs may train drivers to adjust their responses accordingly. i.e. drivers learn to react to the fast high intensity light. Slower lights, even by a few milleseconds, may not trigger our response immediately until they have brightened up. So its not that LEDs cause us to react sooner, its that LEDs train us to react slower to conventional lights.

I also notice that some LED setups are so directly bright they're actually annoying to sit behind. Possibly training our eyes and brains to filter red light out of our consciousness.