Elwyn
13-11-2013, 05:35 PM
I have a 2000 KJ Ei which has Cruise and Traction Control systems.
Began to give trouble yesterday morning - a long way away from home of course.
Same symptoms happened this morning.
When first starting the car from cold - sitting overnight at motel - the car started immediately with the brief flare of Revs and then idles like normal. BUT, idle is ALL it will do - no response from Accelerator Pedal (which may or may not feel a bit "dead").
Yesterday we were out of the motel carpark and idling along a side street before we noticed this problem. We fiddled a bit in the cabin, thinking it was a mat caught under the pedal etc. Eventually a "stop the car/re-start the car" gave immediate return to normal. We were not sure if the "TCL Off" light was flashing or not yesterday - thought we might have bumped the TCL button near the Ign Key.
Today, we noticed the same issue while still in motel carpark and pulled up in spare spot.
Definitely nothing wrong with pedal in cabin. Popped bonnet and pulled on Accelerator cable near the Throttle Body - no response, car simply idles. No stalling with "throttle-on" or "throttle-off".
Tried turning AirCon Off and On a few times (thinking of Air Con Idle-Up etc) no difference. Restarted car a few times, no difference for a while. "TCL Off" definitely flashing this time. Switched the "TCL" near Ign Key a few times, no difference.
Read the glovebox manual a bit - no real information. Eventually as car warmed up we could hear Idle Speed dropping back and after a few minutes we had normal Accelerator response, and stayed that way all day (covered about 300kms with lots of stopping and re-starting in different towns on the way).
Haven't spotted too much directly relevant in the "online PDF Workshop manual".
Thinking perhaps "Accelerator Position Sensor" (TCL cars only) or "Throttle Position Sensor" might be involved - will try to test tomorrow morning if problem occurs again when dead cold.
PS: Been out of Forums for a couple of years. 30 yr old "new" house to play with, maintain etc. have hardly even lurked in Forums due to time constraints. Both my KJ and TJ Sports got hammered in hail storm about 2 wks back. KJ was Written-Off immediately and I have bought back for $600-00 - it is logged with NSW RMS as "superficial hail damage only" so Rego continues etc. For the TJ, I am still waiting to hear from Insurers, may be fixed or may be write-off also. Now shopping for carport!
Began to give trouble yesterday morning - a long way away from home of course.
Same symptoms happened this morning.
When first starting the car from cold - sitting overnight at motel - the car started immediately with the brief flare of Revs and then idles like normal. BUT, idle is ALL it will do - no response from Accelerator Pedal (which may or may not feel a bit "dead").
Yesterday we were out of the motel carpark and idling along a side street before we noticed this problem. We fiddled a bit in the cabin, thinking it was a mat caught under the pedal etc. Eventually a "stop the car/re-start the car" gave immediate return to normal. We were not sure if the "TCL Off" light was flashing or not yesterday - thought we might have bumped the TCL button near the Ign Key.
Today, we noticed the same issue while still in motel carpark and pulled up in spare spot.
Definitely nothing wrong with pedal in cabin. Popped bonnet and pulled on Accelerator cable near the Throttle Body - no response, car simply idles. No stalling with "throttle-on" or "throttle-off".
Tried turning AirCon Off and On a few times (thinking of Air Con Idle-Up etc) no difference. Restarted car a few times, no difference for a while. "TCL Off" definitely flashing this time. Switched the "TCL" near Ign Key a few times, no difference.
Read the glovebox manual a bit - no real information. Eventually as car warmed up we could hear Idle Speed dropping back and after a few minutes we had normal Accelerator response, and stayed that way all day (covered about 300kms with lots of stopping and re-starting in different towns on the way).
Haven't spotted too much directly relevant in the "online PDF Workshop manual".
Thinking perhaps "Accelerator Position Sensor" (TCL cars only) or "Throttle Position Sensor" might be involved - will try to test tomorrow morning if problem occurs again when dead cold.
PS: Been out of Forums for a couple of years. 30 yr old "new" house to play with, maintain etc. have hardly even lurked in Forums due to time constraints. Both my KJ and TJ Sports got hammered in hail storm about 2 wks back. KJ was Written-Off immediately and I have bought back for $600-00 - it is logged with NSW RMS as "superficial hail damage only" so Rego continues etc. For the TJ, I am still waiting to hear from Insurers, may be fixed or may be write-off also. Now shopping for carport!