So I have some axle stands but they're not like ones I've seen and so I want to know where can I place them under the car. They look like this
http://i.imgur.com/PFNVqQdh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/03LiDvKh.jpg

I know where the usual jack points under a magna are, under the door sills and I have made some wooden adapters which fit however I can't get the car high enough to get the axle stands under cause they're pretty tall ones. Even when I drove the car onto pieces of wood and then put another piece under the jack to be able to get it higher it just wasn't enough. I'm using a trolley jack and lifting from the back and you seem to have to lift really really high to get these points on the side high enough. So I wanted to know can I place these stands anywhere else around this area or am I just going to have to buy some smaller ones because a jack that lifts high enough I imagine would cost a lot more.
http://i.imgur.com/EXfqjp9h.jpg
Can anyone help or give me any advice? Thanks in advance

Are those stands adjustable and is that as low as they will go?
If so, you will need lower ones, the type you can wind up or extend once in place.
The standard jack doesn't give you much lift at all, barely gets a wheel off the ground, and the standard hydraulic lift is only slightly better.
Why not lift a wheel up, look for the best place to put a stand, then measure how much room you have, then look for stands that will fit?

most of us would probably agree that the axle stands are placed where you'd usually place the scissor jack when changing out a wheel. using a hydraulic trolley jack under the engine bay/rear axle instead of the scissor jack lets you lift an entire end of the car at once with relative ease.

Are those stands adjustable and is that as low as they will go?
If so, you will need lower ones, the type you can wind up or extend once in place.
The standard jack doesn't give you much lift at all, barely gets a wheel off the ground, and the standard hydraulic lift is only slightly better.
Why not lift a wheel up, look for the best place to put a stand, then measure how much room you have, then look for stands that will fit?

They are adjustable but I have them on the lowest and I cant get them under. Just to make clear I'm lifting at the rear trolley jack point, not under one of the door sills, if I was lifting at one of these points under the sill it would be high enough to fit a stand under but obviously you cant just swap it cause the jack is using that point. How do you mean lift a wheel up? Well I mean there is enough room for the stands in any of the places I show in the last photo but my question is will any of these places support it because I thought the only approved places were where the scissor jack goes?


most of us would probably agree that the axle stands are placed where you'd usually place the scissor jack when changing out a wheel. using a hydraulic trolley jack under the engine bay/rear axle instead of the scissor jack lets you lift an entire end of the car at once with relative ease.

Are there any other possible spots? Yeah and that's how I've lifted it, the whole of the rear car was lifted up but neither of the sides were high enough for the stands.

When lifting the rear of the car your not meant to lift it from the rear axle.
If you look under the car where the spare tyre would be you should see a part sticking out from the well (in about the middle of the well).
This is the rear jacking point for the car as shown in the manual also.

When lifting the rear of the car your not meant to lift it from the rear axle.
If you look under the car where the spare tyre would be you should see a part sticking out from the well (in about the middle of the well).
This is the rear jacking point for the car as shown in the manual also.

Oh I am lifting it from the right point, there is no problem there. I am simply saying this won't lift the sides high enough to get stands under so can I place the stands anywhere else around the wheel area where it would fit?

Are there any other possible spots? Yeah and that's how I've lifted it, the whole of the rear car was lifted up but neither of the sides were high enough for the stands.

do you mean that you couldn't slide the stands in underneath while they were vertical, or that you couldn't lift the back up far enough to get the stands under on their side and then rotate them back to a vertical position? we had the former issue with my car when fitting the lowered suspension and slid the stands in on their sides before rotating them to a vertical position.


When lifting the rear of the car your not meant to lift it from the rear axle.
If you look under the car where the spare tyre would be you should see a part sticking out from the well (in about the middle of the well).
This is the rear jacking point for the car as shown in the manual also.

knew it was around that area. i never pay attention to where other people are putting the jack. the more you know.

do you mean that you couldn't slide the stands in underneath while they were vertical, or that you couldn't lift the back up far enough to get the stands under on their side and then rotate them back to a vertical position? we had the former issue with my car when fitting the lowered suspension and slid the stands in on their sides before rotating them to a vertical position.

I couldn't lift the back up enough to get the stands under either by sliding them in vertically or putting them under sideways and rotating them. I was trying to put the stands at the rear jack points under the door sills. If there was a point where I could put the stands that was behind the wheel(the area in my last photo) then I could fit them under there but I don't know if there is any point that would support it.

Could you use blocks of wood in the gaps of your stands, then use the regular jack points, Blocks of rubber are also ideal...

these stands almost sound as though they're meant for something bigger than a car.

Could you use blocks of wood in the gaps of your stands, then use the regular jack points, Blocks of rubber are also ideal...

Do you mean the jack points under the doors?


these stands almost sound as though they're meant for something bigger than a car.

Yeah I think they're heavy duty ones

Yes the points under the doors...

Extra height can be gained from a jack, by placing the jack on a large solid peice of wood. Or chase a trolley jack with the height clearance of the jackstands, or use rubber blocks on the trolley jack lift point...
As always, Park brake and in "P" or in gear on a flat level surface.. Yes you probably knew that, but it must be said... Anyone and everyone reads this stuff!

Taking a look at those stands, there is more meat on the vertical than the horizontal, which seems strange... And as I dont see me ever owning a 4wd, I'd be tempted to cut them down if the were too tall, or fill with rubber blocks at least...
But thats just me...

Yes the points under the doors...

Extra height can be gained from a jack, by placing the jack on a large solid peice of wood. Or chase a trolley jack with the height clearance of the jackstands, or use rubber blocks on the trolley jack lift point...
As always, Park brake and in "P" or in gear on a flat level surface.. Yes you probably knew that, but it must be said... Anyone and everyone reads this stuff!

Taking a look at those stands, there is more meat on the vertical than the horizontal, which seems strange... And as I dont see me ever owning a 4wd, I'd be tempted to cut them down if the were too tall, or fill with rubber blocks at least...
But thats just me...

Yes I've used blocks of wood so they will fit to the jack point perfectly except my issue is I cant get the car high enough when jacking from the rear to get them under these jack points under the doors. I've used pieces of wood and gained all the extra height I can without getting another trolley jack that can lift super high. I guess my stands are just too tall. Is there another place you can jack up the car on the side that isnt the usual one so then I can jack it up and then put the axle stands in the usual place?

Jack each side separately on the chassis rails & place jack stands at the usual jacking points.

Jack each side separately on the chassis rails & place jack stands at the usual jacking points.

Whereabouts is that and is it safe to do that? Will the floor not cave in or anything?

Whereabouts is that and is it safe to do that? Will the floor not cave in or anything?

Just in beyond the jacking point... could use a piece of wood on top of the jack if you want..

Just in beyond the jacking point... could use a piece of wood on top of the jack if you want..

I'll have a look to see if I can see that tomorrow. Can it definitely support the weight of the car though and wont cause any damage?

Just be careful of the stand and that it does not damage any of the points, the stands you show seem pretty excessive in the top sections, the edges will not spread the load on the body of the car very much and may cause damage, take it slow and dont get under the car while you are positioning them

Just be careful of the stand and that it does not damage any of the points, the stands you show seem pretty excessive in the top sections, the edges will not spread the load on the body of the car very much and may cause damage, take it slow and dont get under the car while you are positioning them

As I mentioned I have cut and made some wooden pieces which sit in the stands and fit the jack point on the car perfectly so there is absolutely no chance it will damage it. Like I said the main problem I have is getting the car high enough to sit on them, so now I just need it know is it safe to jack up the car from the chassis rails? If it is then I should be able to get the car high enough as opposed to jacking it up from the back.

Level with the rear jacking point and in from it is a rail. Don't use that to support the car, when I bought my TJ the rail was collapsed at that point and I had to use the back of a heavy crowbar to pound the floor back into shape, the floor where the rear passenger feet would be was bent upwards to the extent that the rear mounts for the front passenger seat did not line up. Strangely enough pounding the floor back into shape also restored the shape of the rail and the car sailed through Regency inspection without any problems.

I use a trolley jack at the normal jacking points, then put a stand under the nearest solid part of the suspension. Then I lower the jack a bit so that both carry the load. When I have finished whatever I needed the car up for, I jack the trolley jack up a bit, pull out the axle stand and then drop the trolley jack down.
But your stands are way too tall for that.

At the rear you have 3 points, each point on the side of the car and the boot floor has a part towards the front for jacking, dont jack on the rear frame.

The rails should be ok provided you can get a good flat surface you have made on them but be ware, there is little to stop slippage and DONT get under the car

Nothing beats a decent trolley Jack

Thank Goodness I don't have this Problem I have a twenty tonne trolley Jack!

I've had similar issues and think it might be time to invest in a high lift trolley jack.