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johnvirus_01
05-12-2013, 05:49 PM
hey guys

got some time hopefully coming up in the future and want to do some upgrades. been doing some research both in and outside of the forums. and think i've found the right path to travel down.i'il break it down into categories

BRAKES/BREAKS(whichever you prefer):

though a 380 brake conversion has been recommended, having talked with mechanics and friends/father i don't really need it. however i want to replace my pads and rotors to get a bit more out of them and to possibly eliminate as much noise as possible.the plans are for slotted rotors front and rear.pads have a few choices

1. QFM Pads

been recommended throughout the forums.however i hear that they can be a noisy combo and that they need a bit of heat to work their best.

2. Lucas TRW pads

another recommended pad and got told that they can withstand temperatures up to 600°.however they are also noisy as well.

3. genuine pads

threw this in as this is how the car was designed to perform and i can get them for the same price as the above.however probably wont happen.

also what fluid do you all recommend?? was thinking genuine fluid as its easy to get but is there is something from say "supercheap" that is better???

SUSPENSION

ok, shocks are a bit floaty so the LOW km boges/sachs that are in my twin will be getting fitted(my springs with new bumpstops and strut tops).also will be getting a strut brace fitted.


any Negative/negative advice appreciated.

ammerty
05-12-2013, 06:45 PM
1. QFM Pads

been recommended throughout the forums.however i hear that they can be a noisy combo and that they need a bit of heat to work their best. They're the best all-round pad for the Magna and come recommended by many for a reason. They may be a little noisy, but unfortunately you can't have it all.


2. Lucas TRW pads

...got told that they can withstand temperatures up to 600°. So do other brake pads, there's nothing outstanding about them.


3. genuine pads All they have going for them is that they're OEM, otherwise they're much too dusty.



also what fluid do you all recommend?? was thinking genuine fluid as its easy to get but is there is something from say "supercheap" that is better??? Unless you're doing track days or hill climbs regularly, any Super DOT 4 will do.

DR-JEKL
05-12-2013, 07:06 PM
i have a pair of brand new rear kyb excel g's that i will sell for $100 if you want them.

Spetz
05-12-2013, 08:42 PM
When you say pads are noisy, does this mean they squeak?

johnvirus_01
06-12-2013, 03:33 AM
They're the best all-round pad for the Magna and come recommended by many for a reason. They may be a little noisy, but unfortunately you can't have it all.

So do other brake pads, there's nothing outstanding about them.

All they have going for them is that they're OEM, otherwise they're much too dusty.


Unless you're doing track days or hill climbs regularly, any Super DOT 4 will do.

thanks
i can handle a bit of noise but as long as they are not constant.

When you say pads are noisy, does this mean they squeak?

yes. however they arent low.
when i bought the car the pads were replaced for rego, but cheap pads(think bendix) have been put in


i have a pair of brand new rear kyb excel g's that i will sell for $100 if you want them.

Red Valdez
06-12-2013, 04:18 AM
QFM make a variety of different pads. The most commonly referenced QFM pads on the forums are their HPX range. I ran them on the front of my old TJ as well as all round on my 380. I really like them. They are a little dusty and a little squeaky at times compared to your standard OEM replacement pad, but they behave themselves quite well for a performance pad. They have decent pedal feel, work well, and you can push them pretty hard without fading. I would recommend them.

The A1RM are QFM's track pads and require a lot of heat to work properly. There would be little point in running these on a street car.

Have you given thought to changing your springs when you change shocks? You don't need to dump it on its guts - a set of OEM height/slightly lowered King or Dobinson springs would be worth considering. If you want to renew your suspension and/or make it handle a bit better I would give it serious thought, considering you are going to the trouble of changing your shocks.

johnvirus_01
06-12-2013, 07:13 PM
QFM make a variety of different pads. The most commonly referenced QFM pads on the forums are their HPX range. I ran them on the front of my old TJ as well as all round on my 380. I really like them. They are a little dusty and a little squeaky at times compared to your standard OEM replacement pad, but they behave themselves quite well for a performance pad. They have decent pedal feel, work well, and you can push them pretty hard without fading. I would recommend them.

The A1RM are QFM's track pads and require a lot of heat to work properly. There would be little point in running these on a street car.


Have you given thought to changing your springs when you change shocks? You don't need to dump it on its guts - a set of OEM height/slightly lowered King or Dobinson springs would be worth considering. If you want to renew your suspension and/or make it handle a bit better I would give it serious thought, considering you are going to the trouble of changing your shocks.

forgot about springs red - however the twin has pedders springs in there so i dont think i will be using them.
decided on my brake setup today:

front - dba slotted rotors with QFM HPX
REAR new OEM/AFTERMARKET(whichever is cheapest) rotors with the above pad.

springs im unsure for now. they need to be the same height as OEM due to clearance issues.

Red Valdez
06-12-2013, 07:26 PM
I would give slotted rotors a miss. There's plenty of debate about them but I don't think they're worth it. Plus, the DBA T2 slotted rotors are literally just their base model rotors with slotted cut into them - you're not getting a better quality rotor unless you go to the 4000 series.

shannon.8zd
06-12-2013, 07:56 PM
I would give slotted rotors a miss. There's plenty of debate about them but I don't think they're worth it. Plus, the DBA T2 slotted rotors are literally just their base model rotors with slotted cut into them - you're not getting a better quality rotor unless you go to the 4000 series.

But they look really cool....minimum 15hp for sure ;)

grelise
06-12-2013, 09:16 PM
With springs, I highly recommend the Dobinsons. Having had them before the coilovers, they were teamed with Boge shocks, and still had very good compliance even on lows.
Also, I have DBA T3 slotted rotors, 4000 replacements.

johnvirus_01
08-12-2013, 04:25 PM
With springs, I highly recommend the Dobinsons. Having had them before the coilovers, they were teamed with Boge shocks, and still had very good compliance even on lows.
Also, I have DBA T3 slotted rotors, 4000 replacements.
will look into them. if price permits will order a set.

I would give slotted rotors a miss. There's plenty of debate about them but I don't think they're worth it. Plus, the DBA T2 slotted rotors are literally just their base model rotors with slotted cut into them - you're not getting a better quality rotor unless you go to the 4000 series.

But they look really cool....minimum 15hp for sure ;)
orginally i wanted 380 brakes for looks/performance but had many people tell me i didnt need them. the slotted rotors will look good and help a little

also where's the best place to purchase dobinsons??
do they have local retailers or just get them off mal??

grelise
08-12-2013, 06:19 PM
Mainly through Mal, but the have a website and ship to you, they are based in Rockhampton QLD