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raid
25-03-2014, 03:28 PM
My 3.0l TF is missing a TPS harness clip (which ensoniq described in an earlier thread as a piece of pita wire). I'm largely convinced it is the source of my rough running woes described in an earlier thread.

Mitsubishi confirmed the car will often run poorly without the clip. However, they will only sell me one if I spend several hundred on a complete wiring harness. I've tried a few wreckers without success

Can someone please describe the clip, or post an image. Assuming it does nothing more than hold the connector in place, does anyone know of a fool proof replacement solution. Was hoping for something more elegant and long lasting than duct tape and rubber bands

Thanks

Magna diver
25-03-2014, 03:40 PM
The clip is basically a piece of wire approximately 20 mm long with each end bent at 90 degrees with a 10mm long leg at each end ie: [ . Best off going to a U Pullit wreckers, having a look & grabbing one off one of their wrecks.

Cheers

TW2005
25-03-2014, 05:32 PM
My 3.0l TF is missing a TPS harness clip (which ensoniq described in an earlier thread as a piece of pita wire). I'm largely convinced it is the source of my rough running woes described in an earlier thread.

Mitsubishi confirmed the car will often run poorly without the clip. However, they will only sell me one if I spend several hundred on a complete wiring harness. I've tried a few wreckers without success

Can someone please describe the clip, or post an image. Assuming it does nothing more than hold the connector in place, does anyone know of a fool proof replacement solution. Was hoping for something more elegant and long lasting than duct tape and rubber bands

Thanks

If you have no luck, you can get an aftermarket kit and reterminate the wires with a new plug. The good thing with this design is the clip is spring loaded and depressed to release the plug so you should never lose it.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Connector-Set-For-Mitsubishi-Challenger-PA-Throttle-Position-Sensor-TPS-/121155831056

Anyone who specialises in EFI spares should have them. I keep one spare in the car just in case thanks to a dealer breking the body of my connector but it's hanging on ok. got mine from EFI spares, Raymond TCE, NSW.

OR

I found this, it's the large one you need. dare say they're made up but would do.

http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_viewItemBundle.asp?idProduct=29222

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48065

http://projectzerog.com/archives/ZeroGversion2/drifting/images/TPS_plug.jpg

MadMax
25-03-2014, 06:28 PM
It's a retaining clip. It stops the plug from working loose in very bumpy conditions. That's all it does.
Just about every plug that fits into a socket on the Magna has some sort of anti-vibration retaining device.

I call BS on it making a car run rough if it is missing. Just make sure the plug and socket are clean and the plug is pushed in all the way. And check it once in a while.

raid
25-03-2014, 08:10 PM
Thank you for the clip descriptions and possible sources. I like the look of the connector set, but almost feel up to the challenge of crafting the bent piece of wire.

You could well be right Madmax, but after a week of angst, rubber banding up the connector to the TPS was the only thing that seems to have worked. Replaced the ISC (which was flaky anyway), and a thorough clean of the TB did little. The car would idle and (usually) rev without issue, but get about a mile down the road and it would become lumpy whenever you cracked the throttle.

Must admit, I did not notice a clip when I first disconnected the TPS prior to the problem. And in hindsight, the connector does sit fairly loosely on the socket, due I suspect to the dozens of times I removed it to retest the TPS and ram my fat multimeter probe into the connector. When I muster the courage, I will unbind the rubber bands, reverse my hail marys, and put it to the test.

Btw, much appreciated your TB cleaning guide, but god I wish I had have paid more attention to your Point 1 - Replace the Gaskets. That little o-ring pretzel in the ISC comes off nice and cleanly, but grows a few inches while waiting to be re-installed.