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05-04-2014, 05:13 PM
As a followup to my "cracking the Harmonic Balancer" post I thought for those searching for answers I'd post the fix for the no start problem.
So here's the story: I needed to replace the cam belt tensioner, as it rattled badly at startup.
(Short version of the answer- the timing was 3 teeth advanced by previous mechanic - we had assumed it was correct - car drove well and it was 30,000km since it was done - and the cam belt didn't slip with our work - but a bee's D*&k adjustment on belt tension made the timing too far out to start - Apparently)
Long version:
Removed belts Harmonic Balancer (eventually) & covers.
I had a friend lever up the tensioner pulley - whipped the old tensioner out and whacked the new one in . Turned the motor by hand 2 revs - and made a cup of coffee, came back - tensioner collapsed again - belt must be too tight - used a home made tool to release some tension by turning the offset/cam pulley the tensioner pushes on maybe 10 degrees?, turned the engine over by hand 2x times and waited 10 minutes - perfect!
Reassemble - turn key and NO START - turns over (badly) and almost diesels backward as it stalls. WTF! checked everything and still no go, Noid light shows injector pulse, spark good, The only thing we touched was crank angle sensor connection, recheck - nothing wrong.
A week later armed with a used crank angle sensor and the workshop manual - fit new sensor - no go. now knew how to read the diagnostic engine light flashes - reports no errors Huh?
My friend suggested we check the timing - we had wet spark plugs ie: fuel, we had brilliant spark, we had compression so it had to be timing - but we knew it hadn't changed right? WRONG!
We used a screwdriver in #4 plug hole to find TDC - and the cam marks were 3 Teeth past the TDC marks - I don't understand how it ever ran!
So after some considerable faffing around (it's hard to skip 3 teeth in one go) the timing was back and Vroom Vroom runs like a bought one and 1L/100Km better economy.
So Assumption - Kills me!
So here's the story: I needed to replace the cam belt tensioner, as it rattled badly at startup.
(Short version of the answer- the timing was 3 teeth advanced by previous mechanic - we had assumed it was correct - car drove well and it was 30,000km since it was done - and the cam belt didn't slip with our work - but a bee's D*&k adjustment on belt tension made the timing too far out to start - Apparently)
Long version:
Removed belts Harmonic Balancer (eventually) & covers.
I had a friend lever up the tensioner pulley - whipped the old tensioner out and whacked the new one in . Turned the motor by hand 2 revs - and made a cup of coffee, came back - tensioner collapsed again - belt must be too tight - used a home made tool to release some tension by turning the offset/cam pulley the tensioner pushes on maybe 10 degrees?, turned the engine over by hand 2x times and waited 10 minutes - perfect!
Reassemble - turn key and NO START - turns over (badly) and almost diesels backward as it stalls. WTF! checked everything and still no go, Noid light shows injector pulse, spark good, The only thing we touched was crank angle sensor connection, recheck - nothing wrong.
A week later armed with a used crank angle sensor and the workshop manual - fit new sensor - no go. now knew how to read the diagnostic engine light flashes - reports no errors Huh?
My friend suggested we check the timing - we had wet spark plugs ie: fuel, we had brilliant spark, we had compression so it had to be timing - but we knew it hadn't changed right? WRONG!
We used a screwdriver in #4 plug hole to find TDC - and the cam marks were 3 Teeth past the TDC marks - I don't understand how it ever ran!
So after some considerable faffing around (it's hard to skip 3 teeth in one go) the timing was back and Vroom Vroom runs like a bought one and 1L/100Km better economy.
So Assumption - Kills me!