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Millenium7
08-04-2014, 02:20 PM
Some piece of trash managed to get into my car the other day and pulled things out, presumably looking for keys. The only thing I noticed stolen were a few coins, but I just realised I had my remote in there, I havn't used it in a while because a bit of plastic broke so I couldn't attach it to my keyring. Well I just realised it's not there so it must have been nicked. Meaning someone has access to whatevers inside my car whenever they want it

How do I disable the remote locking?
Or better yet, how do I recode it for a different remote (but ideally keep my existing key and immobilizer)

Neo
08-04-2014, 02:27 PM
Switching between acc > on three times will put it in programming/listening mode, that is: any remote that you press the button on from there the car will remember as being a remote belonging to that car.

I'm not sure if it forgets old ones, or whether you can just get away with putting it in listening mode for a few seconds and then let it time out by not pressing any remote at all. I'm assuming you don't just have another one laying around somewhere that you can test with?

That is, put it in programming mode... let it time out. Turn car off. Press your old second remote, see if it works. If it doesn't > profit, reprogram for a single remote.

The way it works is that the on board electronics remembers your little remotes radio wave, just gotta get it to forget your old one somehow (the one that's lost).

Neo
08-04-2014, 02:31 PM
D'oh, the above might not work for you. I know that reprogramming sequence would work for H series onwards.

prowler
08-04-2014, 02:39 PM
Wouldn't disconnecting the Battery work?

Neo
08-04-2014, 02:47 PM
Wouldn't disconnecting the Battery work?

Think about it for a sec :P It would only work if the battery was still disconnected. Once you put it back it will work again, just as it does for everyone.

Think Mal might have to weigh in on this one.

There might be a fuse to disconnect in the mean time if you cannot store your car somewhere secure while you get it sorted.

crackajnr
08-04-2014, 02:50 PM
recoding a new remote will make the old remote useless as a new code will be learned.

Wiggles
08-04-2014, 04:01 PM
Im pretty sure the system can remember up to 3 remotes as when i had a few i was fixing, the first one tested wouldn't work after i coded the 3rd remote.

Millenium7
08-04-2014, 04:27 PM
Yeah this is a problem. I don't mind disconnecting a fuse since I don't have another remote anyway, but without having the original I can't test whether or not 'listening mode' will forget it. I'd assume it actually wouldn't, i'd also assume that reprogramming a single remote wouldn't. Otherwise how does it learn multiple remotes? Maybe reprogramming a replacement remote 3 or 4 times would erase any original encodings?

I'd appreciate if someone with 2 remotes could give it a try. Or if they have 1 try and find a way to disable it. Mine's a KF so not sure if its a different system or not

Another minor question, my remote was actually all black with 3 small grey buttons, it did have a mitsubishi logo on it and IMO looked a lot better than the others I see with a green/red button
Were there different designs for different years? or is this a key from i.e. a pajero or some such?
http://images.getprice.com.au/uploadimg/2385/200_24555.jpg

johnvirus_01
08-04-2014, 04:32 PM
Kf has a different programming sequence from memory. Its in the diy threads

Madmagna
08-04-2014, 05:24 PM
Model?

Millenium7
08-04-2014, 05:43 PM
1997 kf

mcs_xi
09-04-2014, 06:48 AM
PROGRAMMING RF TRANSMITTERS Please note: This is for the 3 button type.
Have all transmitters that are to be programmed together in the
vehicle.
NOTE: Once teach mode has been entered all previous codes
will be erased.
1. To invoke teaching mode for the RF transmitters, turn the
ignition between ACC and IGN 3 times within 5 seconds
and leave at the IGN position.
2. The hazard lamps will flash once if entry is successful.
3. Within 5 seconds of this acknowledgment, press any
button on the first remote key.
4. The hazard lamps will flash once to indicate acceptance.
5. Within 5 seconds press any button on the next key to be
taught, this process may be repeated for up to 4 keys.
6. Teaching mode will be terminated by any of the following
events.
1. The ignition is turned off.
2. More than 5 seconds have elapsed since the last
valid key code.
3. Four keys have been taught to the module.
4. No correct data has been received in 10 seconds.


All you have to do is this procedure and not do anything else. It will erase the memory for all previous remotes.

There is a different procedure for a KF XI with ETACS, but you don't have that.

Millenium7
09-04-2014, 10:21 AM
I need more info than that, I don't have ANY remote so I have no buttons to press
It also says up to 4 keys, so unless I had 2 spare remotes I can't even test if old ones are actually forgotten if I go through the same procedure 4 times

crackajnr
09-04-2014, 10:36 AM
when it say up to 4 . they have to be done all at the one time so they all have the same code , if they are done one at a time each one will make the previous one not work. you cant disarm a previous remote without programming a new remote.

Millenium7
09-04-2014, 10:46 AM
ok so lets forget the idea of reprogramming then.
Is there a fuse or a wire I can pull?

Neo
09-04-2014, 10:51 AM
ok so lets forget the idea of reprogramming then.
Is there a fuse or a wire I can pull?

Nooo.. just do this.


when it say up to 4 . they have to be done all at the one time so they all have the same code , if they are done one at a time each one will make the previous one not work. you cant disarm a previous remote without programming a new remote.

Put it in to reprogramming mode and because you don't have any remotes, you cannot press any buttons. Doesn't mean your central locking will stop working, it means the previous remotes will no longer be remembered in memory. In fact, 0 remotes will be remembered, because you have 0 remotes to program.

mcs_xi
09-04-2014, 10:58 AM
Nooo.. just do this.



Put it in to reprogramming mode and because you don't have any remotes, you cannot press any buttons. Doesn't mean your central locking will stop working, it means the previous remotes will no longer be remembered in memory. In fact, 0 remotes will be remembered, because you have 0 remotes to program.

^ THIS.

Otherwise....

Get a 10mm spanner,
Undo nut from negative terminal from battery.
Undo nut from positive terminal of battery.
Remove battery.
Place battery in shed
Affix sign to battery that reads: 'Do Not Touch - Security Reasons'
Close bonnet.
Lock door with key.

The car can no longer be broken into.

KWAWD
09-04-2014, 11:45 AM
Or you could just pick up a new remote? Most of those little key cutting places in the shopping centers have them, or otherwise a dealer. Program it and the previous one is forgotten.

vlad
09-04-2014, 02:44 PM
OR get a brand new one here:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Magna-TF-Keyless-Entry-Remote-/251495640209?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a8e4eec91

Also, disconnecting the battery does not cause the car to forget learnt remotes otherwise I would have had to do it twice with the current car and a few times with my old KS xi.

Interestingly, when my battery went kaput, I could not lock the doors with the key. Anyone else experienced this?

Neo
09-04-2014, 02:54 PM
OR get a brand new one here:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Magna-TF-Keyless-Entry-Remote-/251495640209?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a8e4eec91

Also, disconnecting the battery does not cause the car to forget learnt remotes otherwise I would have had to do it twice with the current car and a few times with my old KS xi.

Interestingly, when my battery went kaput, I could not lock the doors with the key. Anyone else experienced this?

Yea but it would if you left the battery in the shed, as mcs was suggesting.

And yea, you should only be able to lock/unlock the two front doors separately as the central locking needs battery power.... lol

vlad
09-04-2014, 03:00 PM
Yea but it would if you left the battery in the shed, as mcs was suggesting.

And yea, you should only be able to lock/unlock the two front doors separately as the central locking needs battery power.... lol

LOL, I was referring to Prowlers question. When my KW's battery died and I had to leave it unattended, I couldn't as the key won't even lock the driver's door. I hear a faint whir but not clunk.

Neo
09-04-2014, 03:03 PM
LOL, I was referring to Prowlers question. When my KW's battery died and I had to leave it unattended, I couldn't as the key won't even lock the driver's door. I hear a faint whir but not clunk.

Ok... gremlins??

vlad
09-04-2014, 03:06 PM
Ok... gremlins??
Nope. Happened twice, 2 years apart. Not enough juice to turn the actuator. The fact that I could hear a faint whir mean even locking with the key requires electrical power. Incidentally, I was able to initially unlock on both occasions, just not lock immediately afterwards. Anyhow, going off topic here so I will stop.

Madmagna
10-04-2014, 06:20 AM
If you have an Xi you need to use the MUTTII to programme the new remote, this is a real PITA as well

Millenium7
10-04-2014, 09:21 AM
It's a KF Ei

So can you confirm that entering the relearning sequence (is it ign-on 3x on the KF's? I did that and both indicators flash once) and doing nothing will wipe previous remotes?

mcs_xi
10-04-2014, 09:32 AM
it's a kf ei

so can you confirm that entering the relearning sequence (is it ign-on 3x on the kf's? I did that and both indicators flash once) and doing nothing will wipe previous remotes?

confirmed.