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highlander2287
10-05-2014, 07:23 PM
guys,
I noticed last night that passenger side low beam globe is out. The manual only mentions wattage 55w. I haven't had time yet to actually pull it out to look at it. I have not had to change a globe previously on this car since I bought it, so not sure whether it is going to be original factory or not. I have a 2002 kj verada. I have done a bit of a search through the threads and noticed both h4 and h7 mentioned so I thought I would get a heads up on this before I get into it and just double check with you guys as to the correct type of bulb it should as required.
I am only replacing with a standard brightness, just want to make sure I buy the right type for the car.

Red Valdez
10-05-2014, 08:34 PM
If it's a KJ Parabolic it will NOT be H4. It is either H1 or H7. It will actually be written on the housing (with raised text) above the respective bulb.

Do yourself a favour and put in some good Philips, Narva or Osram bulbs while you're at it too. The parabolic headlights need all the output they can get.

highlander2287
11-05-2014, 12:08 AM
Ok thanks for the tips, will do

Skapper
11-05-2014, 08:03 AM
For future reference the bulb type (H4, H1 etc) is stamped/embossed on top of the headlights themselves.

Billy Mason PI
11-05-2014, 07:26 PM
You'll need a H7 globe if it's the low beam.

KWAWD
12-05-2014, 06:27 AM
If it's a KJ Parabolic it will NOT be H4. It is either H1 or H7. It will actually be written on the housing (with raised text) above the respective bulb.

Do yourself a favour and put in some good Philips, Narva or Osram bulbs while you're at it too. The parabolic headlights need all the output they can get.
Red, just so i understand, Wont the output be governed by the wattage? And wont the light housing have a maximum watt rating (to limit current in the wiring and keep heat to within spec). And why do you say "parabolic"? Thats the shape of the reflector which is optimal for the type?

vlad
12-05-2014, 09:25 AM
Red, just so i understand, Wont the output be governed by the wattage? And wont the light housing have a maximum watt rating (to limit current in the wiring and keep heat to within spec). And why do you say "parabolic"? Thats the shape of the reflector which is optimal for the type?

What Red meant was the Narva Bluepower (sold in Australia as rebadged Osram night breaker) and the Philips extreme. These are all designed to be 80% brighter and 20% whiter and are fully ADR compliant and still run 55w. They do it by both the position of the filament, type of filament and a blue tinge at the tip to give the extra white in appearance.

Veradas use MSPR healights. MSPR stands for multi-surface parabolic reflector. The reflector does both the beam shaping, diffusing and reflecting of light. The front lens is typically just clear and has no function other than weather protection. Standard headlights rely on a single surface parabolic reflector to reflect the light and the lens to do the beam shaping and diffusing. Projectors use the convex lens at the front to focus the light and a blinder behind to give the optical cut for the low beam.

Now, by multi-surface, I mean the reflector is made up of lots of differently angled parabolas.

MSPR headlight:
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab124/vbednikov/verada-headlight.jpg

Standard headlight:
http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server4000/tj72dk9/products/1074/images/2307/hlmd1211960200ul_f__48930.1396146159.1280.1280.jpg ?c=1

Now, MSPR as used in 3rd gen and 380 are not as good as those in the ZG Outlander:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2013/03/10-2014-mitsubishi-outlander-fd.jpg

The outlande's one has all vertical parabolas (much like the highbeam one in the MSPR) and has better performance. The same Narva bluepower fitted to the wife's ZG Outlander is brighter on the road than mine.

Red Valdez
12-05-2014, 11:09 AM
Red, just so i understand, Wont the output be governed by the wattage? And wont the light housing have a maximum watt rating (to limit current in the wiring and keep heat to within spec). And why do you say "parabolic"? Thats the shape of the reflector which is optimal for the type?
vlad has answered your questions really well.

Even though they remain the same wattage, I can speak from experience that the better quality bulbs make a noticeable improvement to light output. The +90/+100 is a little misleading (as it refers to the brightest part of the light output rather than total lumens as a whole) but they are still an easy and worthwhile upgrade for anyone that does regular night driving.

ADM
12-05-2014, 12:14 PM
KJ Verada Low Beam is H7 & High beam is H1 - I'm running Philips diamond Vision globes in my verada for both highs & lows. Whatever you do don't go to Autobarn as I have found them ridiculously expensive for anything other than standard issue globes. And for the love of God, stay away from no brand / cheapies - They'll be lucky to last the winter before needing replacing.

Osram, Philips or Narva - Globes are the only ones worth considering. Compared to these brands, pretty much anything else is rubbish.

vlad
12-05-2014, 12:16 PM
Try eBay for the Philips and narva/osram ones. They are cheaper than the shops, especially if buying the full set.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Osram-Headlight-H7-Night-Breaker-Plus-NightBreaker-Made-in-Germany-/261329374639?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cd871cdaf

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PHILIPS-X-TREME-VISION-H7-CAR-HEADLIGHT-GLOBES-/261267965092?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cd4c8c4a4

highlander2287
14-05-2014, 08:48 PM
Thanks for all the info guys. I got the narva H7. Put new globe in passenger side which was out and naturally brighter than drivers side. Put new globe in drivers side (which I knew I would have to do) and now drivers side is bright, but passenger side seems dull. If I crouch down a bit it seems brighter than when looking at it at normal standing height.???

vlad
14-05-2014, 11:02 PM
Possibly needs the up/down angle adjusted. The headlihts have screws that you can turn with a long philips head screwdriver. Each screw shojld be marked for what it does. Each side will have four. 1 for up/down angle of low beam, 1 for left/right angle of low beam, 1 for up/down angle of high beam and 1 for left/right angle og high beam. Your passenger side should be at a slightly higher angle than the drivers side. There are proper ways for alignment and google is your answer. Just make sure younsearch for Australian RHD ones.

KWAWD
15-05-2014, 05:34 AM
Thanks for all the info guys. I got the narva H7.
Where'd u end up buying them and how much?

ADM
15-05-2014, 10:32 AM
Thanks for all the info guys. I got the narva H7. Put new globe in passenger side which was out and naturally brighter than drivers side. Put new globe in drivers side (which I knew I would have to do) and now drivers side is bright, but passenger side seems dull. If I crouch down a bit it seems brighter than when looking at it at normal standing height.???

By ADR requirements, the driver's side lights will always be dipped down compared to the passenger side, this creates an earlier cut off point so as to minimise glare to oncoming traffic. This will be the reason why the perceived output and throw pattern aren't identical between the driver's and passenger's side. It's meant to be that way.

vlad
15-05-2014, 10:38 AM
By ADR requirements, the driver's side lights will always be dipped down compared to the passenger side, this creates an earlier cut off point so as to minimise glare to oncoming traffic. This will be the reason why the perceived output and throw pattern aren't identical between the driver's and passenger's side. It's meant to be that way.

I think you misread his post. He said the driver's side was not as bright initially as it had the old bulb compared to the new bulb in the passenger side. Once he put the new bulb in the driver's side, the passenger side looked not as bright so basically as I posted before, the passenger side must have been set lower than the driver's side, either that or the driver's side was set too high.

highlander2287
15-05-2014, 08:12 PM
I just got them from the local supercheap. They were $21.99. It, s odd as the passenger globe was as bright, originally, as the drivers side now is. Once I put the drivers side in it was liked it sapped power from the passenger side.