Hi everyone,
New here,

But I have read some forum posts about air intake for the TJ (T/K Magna, Just a magna with a few verada blingy things on it) But I was possibly thinking about upgrading the air intake,

http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=403&category_id=339&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1

Is it worth the money? For those that are in Melbourne, Aus if there anyone that would possibly do it?
Would I safe to say that I could do it on p's?
There much gain out of it other than Treating the engine :).

Have been reading threads like crazy lately and just finding out information, And getting some ideas, Without spending too much money I just want to... I guess finish off the car and and make it look nice. I just had the rear muffler replaced at its recent service. It Has around 76,000kms on it.

I was also wondering about LED Light bars in the front grill area.
If i put two 8inch LED Light bars either side of the Mitsubishi sign on the bonnet it wouldn't restrict air flow to the radiator or have any downfalls of it. I have seen a few floating around me.
Any Idea where I could put the rocker switch?
I am going with this because I go away a lot and it would be very helpful addition to the car.

Something like these;

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8-INCH-80W-CREE-LED-FLOOD-DRIVING-OFFROAD-4WD-WORK-LIGHT-BAR-WD-18W-54W-60W-72W-/271565406779?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f3a8f423b

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/STEALTH-8-inch-36W-Light-Bar-12-x-3W-CREE-LED-4x4-Auto-Driving-Bright-Flood-/271242347096?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f274dc258

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-7INCH-36W-CREE-LED-WORK-LIGHT-BAR-FLOOD-OFFROAD-UTE-REVERSING-SPOT-12V-24V-/230895224211?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35c26d8593

Any opinions are welcome, Just would like a second opinion like most things.


Thanks :D
~Looney_Toon

Air intake won't do much for a stock 3rd gen apart from induction noise.

Don't worry with a rocker switch for the LED light bars - they should be wired up so that they only come on when your high beams are on. Are you looking at any upgrades to your headlights too?

Really so it wouldn't be worth the money?
Just wanted to get a little bit more power out of it :)

I wouldn't go as far as to say HID's but most likely yeah.

Well I would like them on a rocker switch as well it would be good. Not hard to get one done. If I have it hooked up to the high beams it defeats the purpose :).

... If I have it hooked up to the high beams it defeats the purpose :). Which makes me ask the question, what is the intended purpose?

Which makes me ask the question, what is the intended purpose?

Well, it is for trips that I am doing in the near future, I can use these to set up stuff in the night and for driving in the pitch black dark and I don't have to worry about cars so much coming the other way, I have a few trips planned to go to elidon and so forth coming up.

Really so it wouldn't be worth the money?
Just wanted to get a little bit more power out of it :)
At the end of the day the stock intake is not a restriction so upgrading it won't do much.

Should do a search on the forums regarding getting more power out of a Magna and/or cold air intakes as there is a lot of good information out there.


If I have it hooked up to the high beams it defeats the purpose :).
Sorry, I'm a bit lost - if you are driving in the dark you will have your high beams on PLUS the LED lights anyway, so why not have them hooked up to the high beams?

Also, I've looked at your profile and see you have the base model headlights (which are quite good for light output). Some good quality bulbs will definitely assist too.

Yeah welll that is what i was looking at if you looked at the link, The cold air intake.

Well I want to be able to turn them off and on without the high beams on. That is all, Realistically i was wondering if there was any downside to putting them infront of the radiator.
What do you mean the base model Headlights? Profile? Sorry I am a bit confused right now.

Yeah welll that is what i was looking at if you looked at the link, The cold air intake.
I meant looking through the forums rather than RPW's site. Of course RPW will tell you it's the bees kneees - they want to charge you $400-odd for it :)


What do you mean the base model Headlights? Profile? Sorry I am a bit confused right now.
Executive/Advance models use different headlights to the Sports/VR-X/Verada models. The latter look better, but the former have much better light output.

First off welcome to the forum.

With lighting you may want to look into a projector retrofit.if you are not willing to spend that kind of money brighter bulbs and possibly hid high beams will improve.

Both me and red have a low beam projector retrofit(red having quads) whic lights up the road very well!

I meant looking through the forums rather than RPW's site. Of course RPW will tell you it's the bees kneees - they want to charge you $400-odd for it :)


Executive/Advance models use different headlights to the Sports/VR-X/Verada models. The latter look better, but the former have much better light output.


Well that make sense, I think it was a thread that I read about the cooling, the cold air intakes I am pretty sure it was that was the first that I looked at and then I think i found RPW's site from that.


Oh okay fair enough, I had no clue, But I guess that makes sense, But I upgraded the lights no long ago and they were the +100% brighter ones, and they really aren't all that bright. I got them changed when it went in for a service.
The reason for this little invention was for the times I go away, and so forth. It will have a better light will go further, And in all honesty will be pretty cool :).





First off welcome to the forum.

With lighting you may want to look into a projector retrofit.if you are not willing to spend that kind of money brighter bulbs and possibly hid high beams will improve.

Both me and red have a low beam projector retrofit(red having quads) which lights up the road very well!

Thanks for the Welcome, muchly appreciated!

Im not sure what they are?
I am probably going to swap the bulbs over and get some 4000k or 4500k lights to whack in there, But i have to work out how to swap them over as I have had a look but not able to see how to change them, I thought maybe the plug at the back of the lights but that is way too hard to pull out.

Would you be able to show me some photo's?

Do you know of anyone that is possibly selling or know where i can get some perferated headlights for the magna, Would like to have some put in, would be amazing.

The 4000k or 4500k bulbs that you are looking at (assuming they are still halogen) will give you less light output than the bulbs you presently have in there.

If you have a spare couple of hundred bucks, parabolic lights with projectors and HIDs is great. As John said, I ran them in my old Magna and again in my 380. They are brilliant to drive with. The performance with high beams would rival a lot of basic spotlights imo.

I too do a bit of highway driving - in fact I'm knocking off work at 5pm this Friday and doing a good 500km drive up the highway so they'll get another good workout :) To me they have been money well spent.

Oh okay fair enough.

At they easy to install?
Because from a few photos that I have seen. They are similar to the headlights I'm after.... I forget what they are called I said it earlier and I'm on my phone.
What are they worth? Can I get my auto elect to set them up?

I still am thinking the bars as well as the parabolic for not driving :)

I've got that intake setup. No real difference other than sound and aesthetics. But I got it cheap and figured worth it at the time. I get asked if I'm turbo'd now lol. the MAF was relocated with the pod down into the left of the front bar with a make-shift splash guard.

That said, it's pretty much drowning the pod filter from the water on the road and cars in front of me when the weather hits hard.

EDIT: seeing you're in VIC, I'll have a set of 2-piece parabolics up for sale soon with Max Legal Intense Blue's (maybe, yet to decide if they'll be migrated to the wagon). Happy to help you install them and the light bars if you're not far from me. I do a lot of travelling anyway.

EDIT 2: to answer your question, yes very easy so long as you know how to spin a ratchet lol

I've got that intake setup. No real difference other than sound and aesthetics. But I got it cheap and figured worth it at the time. I get asked if I'm turbo'd now lol. the MAF was relocated with the pod down into the left of the front bar with a make-shift splash guard.

That said, it's pretty much drowning the pod filter from the water on the road and cars in front of me when the weather hits hard.

EDIT: seeing you're in VIC, I'll have a set of 2-piece parabolics up for sale soon with Max Legal Intense Blue's (maybe, yet to decide if they'll be migrated to the wagon). Happy to help you install them and the light bars if you're not far from me. I do a lot of travelling anyway.

EDIT 2: to answer your question, yes very easy so long as you know how to spin a ratchet lol


Oh okay fair enough, well would would maybe help put up the kw a little bit, I mean they are only pushing 155kw and a 3.5 liter and it has all this potential.

Oh sweet it would muchly be appreciated, Well I am in the greensborough area (not my actual suburb but very near it.) I will inbox/message you my exact suburb. But That would be awesome? If you don't end up seeing them where abouts did you get them from in the first place, and how much. Just so I know. Also, If you were to sell them, What price would you be seeing them at, price wise?

It looks a bit complicated more than I think though.

Also If I am going to get you down here, Would you help me set up a 6" din if I find one check enough, and then possibly find a hiding place for my iPhone (Which I use for music now because it is inferior ;P) so Running a lightning cable?

A Slab would be coming your way if you did.

a projector retrofit involves putting a projector housing into the reflector and using a hid bulb(halogen can be used too but better to take the full effect of hid's) to focus the light as red said. i have a low beam retrofit done to mine and it spreads the light further than the halogen reflector in the parrabolic lights and wider as well. it also allows you to use hid's legally(well much more than having them in the reflectors will do.....

http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o544/johnvirus_01/20140802_143712_zpsbe3c346d.jpg (http://s1147.photobucket.com/user/johnvirus_01/media/20140802_143712_zpsbe3c346d.jpg.html)
http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o544/johnvirus_01/DSCN0057_zps68f0a207.jpg (http://s1147.photobucket.com/user/johnvirus_01/media/DSCN0057_zps68f0a207.jpg.html)
http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o544/johnvirus_01/DSCN0058_zps9ad4e2cd.jpg (http://s1147.photobucket.com/user/johnvirus_01/media/DSCN0058_zps9ad4e2cd.jpg.html)

it can be expensive(i paid 400 for mine secondhand and the person who originally did them charged under 800 for the kit installed) but can also be done diy. a quad retrofit(4 projectors in total) will be the ultimate setup for night time driving, but even a low beam setup like i have and hid's in the high beam will do as well.

also as mentioned a cold air intake doesent really do much for our cars.ideally a free flowing exhaust or a VRX muffler will give you some gains but being a p plater you may want to learn how to handle the power before you chase more(e.g suspension mods, front strut brace, swaybar etc) - and im speaking from experience here!

a projector retrofit involves putting a projector housing into the reflector and using a hid bulb(halogen can be used too but better to take the full effect of hid's) to focus the light as red said. i have a low beam retrofit done to mine and it spreads the light further than the halogen reflector in the parrabolic lights and wider as well. it also allows you to use hid's legally(well much more than having them in the reflectors will do.....


it can be expensive(i paid 400 for mine secondhand and the person who originally did them charged under 800 for the kit installed) but can also be done diy. a quad retrofit(4 projectors in total) will be the ultimate setup for night time driving, but even a low beam setup like i have and hid's in the high beam will do as well.

also as mentioned a cold air intake doesent really do much for our cars.ideally a free flowing exhaust or a VRX muffler will give you some gains but being a p plater you may want to learn how to handle the power before you chase more(e.g suspension mods, front strut brace, swaybar etc) - and im speaking from experience here!


Well 800 is a bit steep but If i can get a secondhand set for 400 that would be great.
Now, I remember what I was trying o remember, I don't know if it because you go the perferated headlights but they look very similar and they change the look of the car which is what I would like to have. Just a nice little time to have :)

Well to be honest I would bring the car up in height so it doesnt keep scraping out that little bit on driveways and so forth. I would bring it up a little bit but not too much.
Now the other mods that you mentioned, What would they help? If I got them :)

Well 800 is a bit steep but If i can get a secondhand set for 400 that would be great.
Now, I remember what I was trying o remember, I don't know if it because you go the perferated headlights but they look very similar and they change the look of the car which is what I would like to have. Just a nice little time to have :)

Well to be honest I would bring the car up in height so it doesnt keep scraping out that little bit on driveways and so forth. I would bring it up a little bit but not too much.
Now the other mods that you mentioned, What would they help? If I got them :)

these were a custom set however and they dont make off the shelf products for these cars like this. it can be done on a budget however :D. if you speak to member maggie3.5(michael) he can help you as he has done a million or so sets of these.

springs and shock(even vrx stock ones) will lover the car a touch and make it have less bodyroll around corners and help it ride better.. a front strut brace again will again tighten things up and reduce bodyroll. as you have a regular magna you can go to the above height which will look good and not have to worry about driveways etc. a rear swaybar will tighten up the rear and help it handle better(easiest way is a rear sub/k - frame swap but you have access to the wonderful mal from mits-fix who can help). a front one will do the same.

honestly its not drivways that are the issue but my springs themselves. it will be raised up a touch as its current setup does not suit the theme i am going for....
also they are called parrabolic lights(parra's for slang) or parrabola as mits call them in their sales brochures. mine had them factory but you can grab them from a vrx/sports or a verada. there a two types a glass one piece(which never fade) and a plastic one piece. they may need modification for the parker as verada's have them in the bar and also require you to earth one of the wires on the headlight plug. there is DIY instructions on this around the forum

these were a custom set however and they dont make off the shelf products for these cars like this. it can be done on a budget however :D. if you speak to member maggie3.5(michael) he can help you as he has done a million or so sets of these.

springs and shock(even vrx stock ones) will lover the car a touch and make it have less bodyroll around corners and help it ride better.. a front strut brace again will again tighten things up and reduce bodyroll. as you have a regular magna you can go to the above height which will look good and not have to worry about driveways etc. a rear swaybar will tighten up the rear and help it handle better(easiest way is a rear sub/k - frame swap but you have access to the wonderful mal from mits-fix who can help). a front one will do the same.

honestly its not drivways that are the issue but my springs themselves. it will be raised up a touch as its current setup does not suit the theme i am going for....
also they are called parrabolic lights(parra's for slang) or parrabola as mits call them in their sales brochures. mine had them factory but you can grab them from a vrx/sports or a verada. there a two types a glass one piece(which never fade) and a plastic one piece. they may need modification for the parker as verada's have them in the bar and also require you to earth one of the wires on the headlight plug. there is DIY instructions on this around the forum


I am not sure what the first sentence was for again?

Oh okay sweet, Nothing will help the turning circle thought would it.... Almost impossible.
But Where would I be able to get these parts? Including the suspension.

So parra's arent like that normally? Because if not that is a bummer.... I really wish everything was made easier :P hahaha, But that is the best way to get them like that? Because As I said perforated is what I really want and I can bearly find any of them around lately.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/Looney_Toon/IMG_3481_zps28c36ef3.jpg

Just need to change the look of them, Would look real good when it does get changed though.
(was taken before/after I got my p's on the day of)

first sentence was in regards to my lights. they can be done on a budget.
mal(madmagna on the forum) owns a workshop called mits-fix (http://https://www.mitsfix.com/). as you are in victoria he can help you with sourcing all upgrades.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mitsubishi-1997-Magna-Verada-LH-head-light-/151370775909?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item233e66bd65&_uhb=1
there is one side, and you will need this to wire them in:
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?p=671809
it also explains all the lights.

Oh okay fair enough. Jeez this is all a lot of effort haha.
So I should contact him?

Haha that only one ! :(
They easy to wire in or?
Well maybe I should buy the headlights. Then get the other stuff to make them full parabolics with headlights and... Omg this is so confusing Hahaha

So I should contact him and ask him for parts and so forth :)

If you really want good light, there is no better way to go than a lighting bracket. They arent exactly attractive, but very effective. Install some 55w HIDs in some reflectors and you will be amazed. Dads camper gets about a km looking like day. The HIDs and reflectors were about $100 or so.
The key to getting such a great spread of light was having the arc of the hid just above the base of the reflector. Or you could just buy a top kit like lightforce and you will be grinning ear to ear.

Would you be able to show me what they look like? So I get more of an idea about them Thanks a lot!

Yeah well I could go with the lightforce, And i really would be grining ear to ear but I would like to have some light bars in there seeing as It hopefully will be flood and have a nice spread, Trying to get as much wattage out of the small led bar as possible, two of them together would be perfect.

Well you can go for the nudge bar which would be the most proper way to go... or you can get a universal bracket which would be the much cheaper way to go. Only thing about driving lights, specifically good quality ones... you cant expect to park your car in the street and still have them attached the next morning. Maybe they have good locking systems to stop this from happening, I dont know?
The link for the nudge bar (http://www.rcacc.com.au/images/ecb/nsm03ayp.jpg) and the universal bracket (http://d3d71ba2asa5oz.cloudfront.net/43000209/images/adl500__1.jpg).

I read an article that stated the LED light bars are actually good for low speed driving, like 4wdriving more than anything and not so good for highspeed. I cant seem to find it at the moment
And LEDs differ in efficiency. So higher wattage isnt always a gain even if people still advertise wattage. Lumens is the measurement you go by in LEDs.

Not sure if you understand how led's work, but they are going to give you minimal output of light for distance. They are really only for flood, which you will get the same effect with a set of standards foglights with high wattage globes.

If your after more light, your better off getting a set of driving lights, like what most 4x4's use and go about it that way.

Hmmm that is another option.
I didn't really want to go down that revenue.
Well realistically that is all I want it for. Mainly for that slowly driving and so forth.

Yeah I know a little about the lumens and so forth.


Well I think I am going to go with the parabolic lights and then a LED's.
Wiggles, seeing as you are state rep, Do you have any of those license plate surroundings left, Would love to have them! Thanks :D

As I said in my previous post, parabolic headlights have less light output than the standard headlights - in fact the low beam is pretty crap. If lighting is a priority and you are not planning on a HID/projector retrofit, you are best to stick with your current lights.

Only a handful of members have done HID/projectors so don't bank on buying a set second-hand.

Well what is the point of them? I mean what is the best way to do it then?

Parabolics look cool. Very cool, in fact.

Best lighting overall = Parabolics with HIDs/projectors
Best bang for buck and/or if looks aren't an issue = Executive lights with good quality bulbs
Looks = parabolics

Your car, your wallet, your call :)

for your information..

Std two piece paras

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/paras-whoot/7.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/micpea/media/paras-whoot/7.jpg.html)

first quad projector build

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/PROJECTOR%20PARAS/IMAG0322.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/micpea/media/PROJECTOR%20PARAS/IMAG0322.jpg.html)

as it is now

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/IMAG0424_zps287ddae7.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/micpea/media/IMAG0424_zps287ddae7.jpg.html)

others.(that i built )

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/Nathans%20projectors/IMAG0820_zpsb598c78e.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/micpea/media/Nathans%20projectors/IMAG0820_zpsb598c78e.jpg.html)

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/Jacob%20VRX/IMAG1247_zpseookknfr.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/micpea/media/Jacob%20VRX/IMAG1247_zpseookknfr.jpg.html)

a collection of Paras....

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/IMAG0856_zps0juukc2h.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/micpea/media/IMAG0856_zps0juukc2h.jpg.html)

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/IMAG0846_zpspxekb1l6.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/micpea/media/IMAG0846_zpspxekb1l6.jpg.html)

and quad projectors...

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/IMAG0874_zps94vjfpe7.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/micpea/media/IMAG0874_zps94vjfpe7.jpg.html)

or go big spottie....

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/Greatoceanroad332.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/micpea/media/Greatoceanroad332.jpg.html)

Parabolics look cool. Very cool, in fact.

Best lighting overall = Parabolics with HIDs/projectors
Best bang for buck and/or if looks aren't an issue = Executive lights with good quality bulbs
Looks = parabolics

Your car, your wallet, your call :)

I think that is the way to go, seeing as I will get the best lighting. It just makes the difference with looks too, Either that or I can get perforated lights.

What bulbs do you recommend then to put in?

They don't look too bad. All of those, I think adds to the car with looks. Just makes it look different.

If you decide to go down this path, check out www.theretrofitsource.com. The Morimoto gear is TRS's house brand but is good bang for buck. Don't forget you need bulbs as well as ballasts for the HID side of things.

Is that the HID kits for the Para's?

What about getting perferated headlights and changing the globes?
Anyone know where I can get some perfs?

What do you mean by 'perforated' headlights? Do you mean parabolic (i.e. Verada/VRX/Sports) headlights? Or do you mean something else?

Well I now fee like a idiot right now, So sorry!
I swear it said perferated.... It was parrabolic.

http://forums.mightycarmods.com/showthread.php?11143-My-TF-and-TJ-Magna-s
Post number 5, I would like to get ones just like that!!! They are what I am after!!

So sorry about that!!!

I gave the car a breif detail ,It just needs a Vac, If I get some time I will go to the car wash tomorrow or break out a vacuum.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/Looney_Toon/20140808_100751_zpsb9a05c38.jpg


So I decided I take a trip to Mits and spent so much haha :P


I gots some stuff;

I got these ones and I think I will just install these maybe upgrade the globes is the best way to go. Any recommendations?
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/Looney_Toon/20140808_162725_zpsd32c59cd.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/Looney_Toon/20140808_134934_zpsb5f80135.jpg


I am loving it right now, Cannot wait till I get the headlights in.

I would also light to know if it is possible to put a KJ Verada Bumper on the TJ? And If anyone has one in Silver :D

Like we said at work, grab the highest wattage (but legal) Philips or osram (night breakers) would be your best bet. Then look at doing a projector mod later down the track

My brake light has blown as far as I can tell.
Parkers work but brakes don't know but I'm so cut about the fact that it isn't road worthy.

Hey everyone, I know this thread is old, but I have a question about the Osram and headlights in general.

http://www.powerbulbs.com/au/blog/2013/04/philips-xtreme-vision-vs-osram-nightbreaker-plus-car-headlight-bulb-review
After reading that and after what Wiggles said ^^ I am not sure what to go with, I mean the Phillips are just as easy to get compared to the Osram.



Now with these lights, I was wondering if I would need the H4 and the H1's for the Parabolics and the parking lights will they be necessary in the parra's?
Driving lights easy to fit? Or worth it to fit.
What is better to go with, After shipping and so forth the Osram are probably going to end up the same price, I can go to AutoBahn and get the Phillips.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/Looney_Toon/Osramheadlights_zps239fd8d0.png


What should I do, I am going to get these to get a bit more light out of it so there is a further throw and so forth.

I crossed out the Front fog lamps because I don't have them so there is no point getting them.

Parabolic headlights are H1 and H7.

As the review said they are both good quality bulbs. You can be rest assured that your lighting will be as good as it gets without resorting to relays/over-wattage bulbs or HIDs/projectors.

I think you will find that Powerbulbs are far, far cheaper than buying locally.

Oh okay fair enough, Well, I will look at getting that.

Yeah true.
Oh really? Well, 160 around about's, for the H1's and the H4's as they are average of $80 something.
SO, After postage and so forth, And it would be easier to change whilst the headlights out I can change them easier that is all.


http://www.powerbulbs.com/au/product/night-breaker-unlimited-h7-twin-blister
http://www.powerbulbs.com/au/product/night-breaker-unlimited-h4

These are suitable?

You missed the point of my post. You need to buy H1 and H7 bulbs. H4 will not physically fit.

I know that much. I got that much.
But I was using an example... Because they will be about the same price. From what I can tell. But I will soon see when I go there tomorrow.

But yeah I put a link in the last post over the Page for the lights. They will work yeah?