Righto,

Got a little problem and im just curious as to what everyone thinks. Im about to upgrade from my VRX rims to some 18x7.5 rims.

Now the problem lies in WA you are only allowed a maximum rim width of 7" unless the vehicle came with anything wider stock. As the VRX came with 7" wide wheels I can't go any larger legally. We are allowed to go 2" larger in diamater however so thats the good news.

The main problem is my insurance company (HBF) will ok anything providing its legal. However as the wheels i will be fitting will be technically illegal there will allways be the chance that they can void my claim in the event of an accident.

Im just curious if there is anyway they can tell the width of the rims as I can't imagine the markings are stamped all over the face of the rim. Im sure they can gauge from the tyre width but i know 235 tyres can be fitted to a 7" rim.

Any idea's people, chances are im just going to fit them and keep my fingers crossed i don't have to make a claim...

9 Times out of ten they just dont give a damn.

I took my car in once and the racq insurance bloke goes "hey nice eyelid light covers" and he did'nt say anything about my pod filter or neons or the car being 2inches lower.


If you did get caught out then it would just be that someones having a bad day and are just out for blood.

But I have'nt seen any stamping on my rims to confirm the width, only on the boxes they came in had it printed on there.

But it's upto you mate, take the risk or not. :doubt:

The wheel width, diameter, offset, lip type, are all stamped on the mounting face of the wheel. BTW why cross your fingers and hope that you don't have to make a claim? Cheaper and more effective to just not buy insurance in that case.

You see the only time where the rims would prove a problem in the event of a claim is where the car is so badly damaged that the rims can't be swapped.

If the accident isn't my fault then the wheels are fine, if the accident is my fault I can allways tow it home and swap the wheels then make the claim.

I would rather have it insured incase of theft or fire etc.

You see the only time where the rims would prove a problem in the event of a claim is where the car is so badly damaged that the rims can't be swapped.

If the accident isn't my fault then the wheels are fine, if the accident is my fault I can allways tow it home and swap the wheels then make the claim.

I would rather have it insured incase of theft or fire etc.

Change insurance companies mate! Insurance companies will do anything they can to not pay out so you might as well find an insurance company that is happy with 18 x 7.5's! I had the problems with the fact of load rating (95 on verada's 215\60 tyres) and 7inch width not legally allowed on 235's as the minimum is 7.5inch, although 7's will fit. I sold da rims cus they were on dads car and he didn't want to change from NRMA as he gets too many benefits :( But if it was my ride i would have changed insurance companies in an instant! Just Car insurance i think they'd support it although i heard they are a little pricey!

Just my 2 cents worth!

Sen2

for me just cars was just a little more then HBF ($20 more) until i told them plans of the car hehehehe tho they didnt have a problem with it my premium went from 1100 or so to 1400 with just lowering, rims and zorst (also included $800 of audio gear)

Change insurance companies mate! Insurance companies will do anything they can to not pay out so you might as well find an insurance company that is happy with 18 x 7.5's! I had the problems with the fact of load rating (95 on verada's 215\60 tyres) and 7inch width not legally allowed on 235's as the minimum is 7.5inch, although 7's will fit. I sold da rims cus they were on dads car and he didn't want to change from NRMA as he gets too many benefits :( But if it was my ride i would have changed insurance companies in an instant! Just Car insurance i think they'd support it although i heard they are a little pricey!

Just my 2 cents worth!

Sen2

mate how is it illegal to have 235's on 7" wide rims?

that's my setup at current!!

and Blake, I reckon if u r going to get insurance ... do it by the book so u dun get caught out. no point in regretting if **** does arise

I had the same thing when I did my rims...

No1 would insure me for anything over 7" wide, so I had to settle. Still like the rims, look damn nice, suit the car but they weren't my first choice.

When it came to lowering and my insurance Co. (SGIO) said no lower than 30mm, i decided enough was enough. I changed to RAC who said, so long as it is legal, it is cool.

They also charged me less and insured my car for more! :D

Also, if I would like to go further with mods etc, they will increase the valuse of the car further but after an extent there is a limit for this car's value, but i can then get it inspected and get it insured for more if i wish. The easy thing is, if something isn't listed the most they will give me for it is $750, so ie, extractors, can be noted on the policy but not added to the total value the car is insured for but i would still get the money for them in the end... I quizzed the poor girl thourghly over this just to make sure i had it rite :)

mate how is it illegal to have 235's on 7" wide rims?

that's my setup at current!!
ask any decent tyre place... it's in their guidelines (although most don't know it) the widest tyre on a 7" rim is a 225.. for a 235 u need a 7.5

they will fit on a 7" rim, but not 100% legal

Firstly Blake welcome to the club, i am going through the same delima, all the rims i like are 18 x 7.5/8 and RACV wont insuare anything morethan 7" wide.

Going with just car is the other option but then paying them around $500 more early is simply not worth it depending on how much mods i want to do.

So that is some thing for you to decide if changin insurace is feasible.


As far putting them on and then praying nothing should happen well Best of Luck but now a days with so many idiots around you just never know. And even if its some one else fault and its a major accident (god forbid) their insurace compnay will go to any lenght to avoid the payments.

As for 235 on 7" wide rims, Any good tyre dealer will let you know right away that 235's on 7" wont fit and if you will, its illegal and your responsibility.

Sounds like i'll be sticking with the VRX rims for a bit longer until my current policy expires. Then perhaps I will upgrade my wheels when the time comes.

As you said kewlsolara, there are just too many idiots on the road.

Also does anyone know if you are to get an engineers cert, will it make the mod "legal"

So if I was to put 7.5" wide wheels on and have them certified then this should make them legal. What are everyones thoughts on this one?

mate how is it illegal to have 235's on 7" wide rims?

that's my setup at current!!
235's on a 7" rim are not legal, full stop.

The Tyre and Rim Association of Australia (TRAA) have set guidelines. These guidelines apply Australia wide. They determine which rims we can legally fit to a road car based on design standards. They also list the maximum and minimum tyre sizes for every rim width. They also determine the load ratings set for each make of car.

The maximum tyre width for a 7" rim is 225
The minimum rim width for a 235 tyre is 7.5"

While a 235 tyre in most instances will fit a 7" rim, it is not legal and consequently not covered by most insurance companies.

Some tyre dealers simply do not check these guidelines and will fit any tyre you end up choosing, sometimes even with the wrong load rating, some have already mentioned this in other threads.

Unfortunately, these are the laws, but when it comes to tyres and your safety, who are you going to trust, the bloke behind the counter at your local tyre shop or the TRAA? :)

ask any decent tyre place... it's in their guidelines (although most don't know it) the widest tyre on a 7" rim is a 225.. for a 235 u need a 7.5

they will fit on a 7" rim, but not 100% legal

hmmm ... on my falken's it says " do not fit on 7.5" rims" :confused:

really need to get this checked out in case it voids my insurance

Also does anyone know if you are to get an engineers cert, will it make the mod "legal"

So if I was to put 7.5" wide wheels on and have them certified then this should make them legal. What are everyones thoughts on this one?
While I am not 100% sure of the laws in WA regarding rim width changes, etc.

But from what you have said, anything larger than 7" is not allowed. I don't think an engineering certificate is going to change that law.

Simple fix, move to another state... lol

235's on a 7" rim are not legal, full stop.

The Tyre and Rim Association of Australia (TRAA) have set guidelines. These guidelines apply Australia wide. They determine which rims we can legally fit to a road car based on design standards. They also list the maximum and minimum tyre sizes for every rim width. They also determine the load ratings set for each make of car.

The maximum tyre width for a 7" rim is 225
The minimum rim width for a 235 tyre is 7.5"

While a 235 tyre in most instances will fit a 7" rim, it is not legal and consequently not covered by most insurance companies.

Some tyre dealers simply do not check these guidelines and will fit any tyre you end up choosing, sometimes even with the wrong load rating, some have already mentioned this in other threads.

Unfortunately, these are the laws, but when it comes to tyres and your safety, who are you going to trust, the bloke behind the counter at your local tyre shop or the TRAA? :)

just read uir post mate

DAMN and i m about to get a new policy w/ nrma :mad: :mad: :mad:

i don't believe this

hmmm ... on my falken's it says " do not fit on 7.5" rims" :confused:
What size and model tyres do you have? My Falken 234/45R17's don't say not to be fitted to x wide rim. I know the 235's shouldn't be on 7' rims but mine are. Falken recommend 7.5 - 9 for my 512's. Someone said that Michelin make tyres that fit a 7' rim and they're the only ones I know of. Thing is that the Tyre guide says this isn't legal.

I'm sure you will find that they won't care about the width of rim / tyre combo unless it's deemed that the tyres / rims are a contributing factor in an accident. It does however mean that there is an avenue for an insurer to not payout which if it's a large claim or write off, they could persue. Something else to consider is if your tyres / rims don't conform and you kill someone and the tyres / rims are a contributing factor, you could be up on charges.

Mitsu suck for having stupid load ratings on their cars. :rant:

All i know is by law virtually any kind of modification you car requires an engineers cert. but unless you have very obviously modified car cops normally dont give you any hassel. but just in case. a very common example is putting after market seats in your car, etc.

You also have to check your state laws.

For us in Vic even though state law says that for a car to be road worthy you can have 2" high and 1" wide rims and its also perfectly legall but RACV still dosent care and would not support even .01" wider rims.

All i know is by law virtually any kind of modification you car requires an engineers cert. but unless you have very obviously modified car cops normally dont give you any hassel. but just in case. a very common example is putting after market seats in your car, etc.
Well, Queensland Transport have a handbook that allows certain things to not require a certificate.

What size and model tyres do you have? My Falken 234/45R17's don't say not to be fitted to x wide rim.

got ziex 326 235/45ZR17... took a look just then and OOPS :redface: it actually says do not fit on 17.5" rim ... guess i need new glasses :doubt:

235's on a 7" rim are not legal, full stop.

The Tyre and Rim Association of Australia (TRAA) have set guidelines. These guidelines apply Australia wide. They determine which rims we can legally fit to a road car based on design standards. They also list the maximum and minimum tyre sizes for every rim width. They also determine the load ratings set for each make of car.

The maximum tyre width for a 7" rim is 225
The minimum rim width for a 235 tyre is 7.5"

While a 235 tyre in most instances will fit a 7" rim, it is not legal and consequently not covered by most insurance companies.

Some tyre dealers simply do not check these guidelines and will fit any tyre you end up choosing, sometimes even with the wrong load rating, some have already mentioned this in other threads.

Unfortunately, these are the laws, but when it comes to tyres and your safety, who are you going to trust, the bloke behind the counter at your local tyre shop or the TRAA? :)

? Im running 18x8.5" on 235/45's... and they are the recomemded size for that wheel (i went to a few places and asked).... oh and when it comes to my insurance... i havent told them bout the rims yet. :redface:

^^ You should ideally be running 235/40 with 18" wheels. Furthermore, re all the comments about 235 not being legal on 7", yes it does physically fit, and Michelin actually make a 235 tyre that they approve to be fitted to a 7" wheel, the Pilot Preceda.

^^ You should ideally be running 235/40 with 18" wheels. Furthermore, re all the comments about 235 not being legal on 7", yes it does physically fit, and Michelin actually make a 235 tyre that they approve to be fitted to a 7" wheel, the Pilot Preceda.
And them are the ones I'm gonna get. Not cheap I bet. I thought it was you who mentioned it. TRAA have veto'd this or do their specs very from tyre to tyre and not just a generalisation of 235's can't be used on 7' rims?

They're not that expensive, when I looked back in Feb they were around $270 each; they had no stock so I settled with the Falken Azenis ST115 which are an awesome tyre that love to get hot. I also looked at the Goodyear F1-FSD3 which were about $300 and an awesome wet weather tyre, or the Bridgestone S-03 which are also $300 and are good all-season. Continental Contisport Contacts are a good all around tyre with good wear, just that you don't see many Continental dealers around.

And them are the ones I'm gonna get. Not cheap I bet. I thought it was you who mentioned it. TRAA have veto'd this or do their specs very from tyre to tyre and not just a generalisation of 235's can't be used on 7' rims?
TRAA guidelines state clearly that the minimum rim width for a 235 tyre must be 7.5"

A manufacturer, in this case Michelin, can still produce the tyres and say that they "can fit" a 7" rim, but that doesn't mean they are legal.


? Im running 18x8.5" on 235/45's... and they are the recomemded size for that wheel (i went to a few places and asked).... oh and when it comes to my insurance... i havent told them bout the rims yet. :redface:

A 235 tyre on an 8.5" rim should be OK, but as teK-- has mentioned, a 235/40 would have been a closer match to your original overall rolling diameter.


Goodyear F1-FSD3 which were about $300
teK--,

When looking a couple of months ago, I was quoted about $250 a tyre for the Eagle F1-D3's, and that was for a 225/50/17 94

Yet again the tyre/wheel what's legal debate rages on.

All the advice I've seen above is correct but a lot of people are not aware of these simple facts.

It took me a lot of time and energy to find what I needed to know and hence I have 225/50/17's with load rating 94 (because my tyre placard says 94 even though the OE tyres are 95) on 17" x 7" rims with an offset of +42. These tyres and wheels are legal in QLD and NSW (where I'll be living after this year).

Anyway, the bottom line is: should we put together a summary of the rules for each state and stick it up somewhere on the forum so people are aware of it and can find it? I've done the QLD & NSW ones if you want them.

mate how is it illegal to have 235's on 7" wide rims?

that's my setup at current!!

There is a tyre association or something of the sorts that set out the guidlines, as i said,,7inch fits no problems but by their guidelines which is what the RTA in nsw follows it is not legal!

just read uir post mate

DAMN and i m about to get a new policy w/ nrma :mad: :mad: :mad:

i don't believe this

Watch it with nrma buddy, most of the folk on the phones don't know what your on about and they will just say "yea thats fine blah blah blah" but they don't know the guidelines and when it comes to pay out,,they'll fall back on it, insurance companies will do whateva to not pay out! Also tyre stores will whack on tyres sometimes that don't follow the correct guidelines , unfortunately to the consumers detriment!!! If you asked them what size tyre for a 17x7 rim they will almost always say 235\45!

Thats interesting...
When I rang up about my 20x8.5 I asked him what the biggest I was allowed and he said I could go 1.45x the width of the stock widest rim... so I could go 285 But that is Insane :)
and as far as the height.... I can go 15mm over the largest Mitsubishi optioned rim...

Just letting you know what we can do...
Doesnt really help your situation though I guess :D

Haydn

TBuTcher, your wheel man is WRONG!

In QLD the widest tyre is 1.3 times the widest on your tyre placard. (4WD's are 1.5 times).

The overall tyre/wheel package can't be more than 15mm greater or 26mm smaller than standard.

There is no stipulation on wheel width in QLD (unlike bloody NSW) but the 'Tyre and Rim Standards Manual' must be complied with when matching tyres to rims. If your retailer doesn't have one WALK AWAY. (235/45/17 = 7.5" wheel width MINIMUM)

The other big one is vehicle track. This effects what offset you can have. ET +46 (standard on Gen3's) down to ET+33 (try and stay above 40 or invest in a CV manufacturing company).

Other than that the tyre musn't protrude from the arches or foul the body or suspension. Wheel spacers are a big NO NO. And DON'T EVER FORGET LOAD RATING. It's on the tyre placard and is the first thing the insurance invetigator will look at. For some of us it's 94 and for others 95 (unlucky).


For those with a Magna Gen3 in NSW the differences are minor but SIGNIFICANT.

The widest wheel you can have (unless you have a VR-X with 17's) is 7". No argument. Which means on a 17" rim you can't have bigger than 225/50 tyres.

Offset is ET+46 to ET+34and overall package size (tee hee) is +15mm to -15mm.

All other rules are the same.

This means if you are in QLD and get 235/45/17 on 17" x 8" with the correct offset to prevent protusion or fouling you are OK. Move to NSW and you are NOT OK.

Forgot to add the links:

1.for QLD car mods:

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/driver.nsf/files/images/$file/Vehicle-Modifications.pdf
(not sure why this link not working. Just cut and paste it)

2. for NSW car mods

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi_dl1.html


3. for wheels and tyres in NSW

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi09_rev4.pdf

Thanks rockmag...
yea I rang the guy at the dept Transport.... and I thought it was 1.5x the width.. but 1.3 is fine.. :)
My Rims have a 35mm offset and dont protude.. they have 245 on them and dont foul.. and the load rating is 95..
So in Qld Im laughing... (my bank account...... well thats another story :( )
:D

Haydn

PS does anyone have access to what specs are on what tyre plackards on their cars...???
can people please post what they options are of the different models etc?

Thanks

hahahaahahahahahahahaaha know what ya mean about the bank account.. :D :D :D

2000 TH 3.5L auto exec sedan

15" x 6" rims
205/65/15 tyres with 94 load rating.
Pressures 29 front, 26 rear adding 4 if travelling over 160kph (must be for NT)

I run 35 front and 32 rear on my 17" 225/50's

so is that the LARGEST option on your tyre plackard?

Thanks

My Tyreplace card on the VRX says 17x7, 225/50/R17 L94

A 235 tyre on an 8.5" rim should be OK, but as teK-- has mentioned, a 235/40 would have been a closer match to your original overall rolling diameter.


The overall diamiter of my wheels including the tyre came out approx 7-8mm difference. ie. the 18" rims had a smaller overall diameter than stockers.

My Tyreplace card on the VRX says 17x7, 225/50/R17 L94
Hmmm
Well I guess I need to get all values for all tyreplace cards????
what Im doing is trying to find what the largest Diameter is out of the TE-TL range...
your one is a diameter of 656.8mm :(
rockmag is 647.5mm....
so I need to find ones maybe off a Ralliart or something that might have a karger diameter...
215/60/16 is what i need one of them to say :)

Haydn

TBuTcher, unfortunately it's what it says on your tyre placard that counts. Don't try changing it either because the insurance look up the original figures in a big book.

I understand that...
But Im getting a new compliance plate for my car due to engine and other upgrades... and at that point I "may" be able to use a differnet placard....
So this is why I need to know the different options on the differnt models.

Haydn

I just called the DPI (WA's licencing ****) -- they said they are bringing in a new national code of whatever which will allow for wheels larger than 7"...

He said it should be implemented within this 30 day period coming up. :D

HOHOHO merry xmas lol.

I thought it was strange when i asked and the bloke said thats the law for the time being. Weird.

My Tyreplace card on the VRX says 17x7, 225/50/R17 L94

Just out of curiosity, what pressure do you pump your tyres to?

Just out of curiosity, what pressure do you pump your tyres to?
I have the same set up on my VRX, obviously, I have both the front and rears inflated to ~36PSI

The tyre dealer recommended about 34-36 when I recently bought my new tyres.

But at the same time, others have recommened less. :confused:

I have the same set up on my VRX, obviously, I have both the front and rears inflated to ~36PSI

The tyre dealer recommended about 34-36 when I recently bought my new tyres.

But at the same time, others have recommened less. :confused:

out of interest, what brand/model are the tyres fitted to the VRX from factory?

Bridgestone Grid II

so I need to find ones maybe off a Ralliart or something that might have a karger diameter...215/60/16 is what i need one of them to say :)Haydn
I am a bit confused whether you already knew this and needed a placard from a different model to be the same....but the TH Sports is 215/60/16. So is the TJ Sports.

To find out all the other models research them here (http://research.carsguide.news.com.au/news/research_new.jsp)

I is a very :shock: now. After thinking i had done every thing right and saying " I don't want anything illegal!" I now find my self with 235's on 17x7's which I was told was fine by some one I have known for a long time and owns their own bridgestone tyre centre. This is in WA so heres hoping it is legal here.... ( Now driving like a grandma :cry: )

I have the same set up on my VRX, obviously, I have both the front and rears inflated to ~36PSI

The tyre dealer recommended about 34-36 when I recently bought my new tyres.

But at the same time, others have recommened less. :confused:

****ing hell that's so soft.
i got mine on 40 for very ethusiatic drives and 38 for cruising
i got 225/50/16 (not much of a difference)

:shock: :shock: :shock:

Madmotts I wouldn't be worry about it, the place that sold them to you will be liable if thats the case. You'll be fine.

I just remembered they put 235's on my 17x7.5 lenso's lol That was for my old 2.4 TE

I pump my Bridgestones to around 42psi ~ which is safe. You can pump them up close to around 50psi if you really want to.

oh yeah but then it's gonna be like a baloon.

blake what rims u getting?

I think im going to get HP Designs 18x7.5

Honestly i've been searching for months and there isn't much out there i like.

same

ill be getting vault kaotic shadow chrome 18x8.5 in about 4 weeks hopefully

there is 1 rim i do love but the prices ive found they are just far to overpriced for what i wanna pay they are BSA 291 17x7.5 cheapest i could find is 350 per rim (no rubber) in silver, and i wanted chromies :(

I was going to get them but I like the HP's a little bit more. Still deciding AARRGG.

I found the perfect rim a while back but turned out to be 1800 bucks.... each!!!!

Nuts to that. Im going to wait 6-8 weeks for this new legislation to come through (called up DPI today) and they said it will allow larger wheels for most cars.

out of interest, what brand/model are the tyres fitted to the VRX from factory?As BlackVRX has already mentioned, the VRX comes with Bridgestone Grid II's from the factory.



However, Bridgestone no longer make this tyre as it has been superceded by the Grid III.

Unfortunately, there are not many decent performance tyres to choose from in a 225/50/17 that have the correct load rating, ie 94, that the VRX requires.

When choosing my new tyres, it came down to either the Goodyear Eagle F1 D3's or the Bridgestone Potenza Grid III's.


The Goodyears are known to be better performance wise, especially in the wet.

But, I chose the Bridgestone's in the end, as they will last longer than the Goodyears.


I am happy with my choice and they look good on the VRX rims too! :D (That was not one of the deciding factors!)

When I got my tyres I was looking for Dunlop Le Mans LM 702. The tyre shop couldn't get them and got 602's instead. These are apparently standard fit on the latest Ford Fairlane. As I was looking for a comfort tyre I went for them. I paid $270 each for them.

I am very impressed. There is no noticible difference in road noise over the RE92's that I had previously. Also the wet weather traction is in a whole different league. That may be simply because they are a silica compound. Dry grip is good, as you would expect, they don't squeel at the limit and are progressive at break away.

I don't do many km's so I can't comment on wear for a while, but then I don't care as I only nedd to get 40,000km out of them to last me 4 years when I would change then anyway. Some slight feathering at the edges but that would be the type of corners (90 degree) I am forced to negotiate every day and because I haven't fitted my rear sway bar yet because some twit didn't send all the bits with it!

Hey Blake, got a pic of the wheels you wanna get?
the brand HP sounds familiar....

As BlackVRX has already mentioned, the VRX comes with Bridgestone Grid II's from the factory.



However, Bridgestone no longer make this tyre as it has been superceded by the Grid III.

Unfortunately, there are not many decent performance tyres to choose from in a 225/50/17 that have the correct load rating, ie 94, that the VRX requires.

When choosing my new tyres, it came down to either the Goodyear Eagle F1 D3's or the Bridgestone Potenza Grid III's.


The Goodyears are known to be better performance wise, especially in the wet.

But, I chose the Bridgestone's in the end, as they will last longer than the Goodyears.


I am happy with my choice and they look good on the VRX rims too! :D (That was not one of the deciding factors!)

thx for that VRX,

so does the load rating of 94 apply to all gen3 magnas?

and how much did the gridIII's cost??

From all the cars/drivers on the road i reckon more than 95% of people would have no idea about what tyre sizes etc they should have

So more than 95% of people just get whatever the tyre block says is right.

Are you guys trying to say that the majority of cars on the road probably have illegal tyres and are technically not insured? I don't think so. Insurance companys won't care aslong as the tyre/wheel combo doesnt cause the accident

Gremlin, call me an old fart but I'm quite happy to let some one else put that one to the test.

Legally if you change your car so that it does not comply with the state regs then you are running a big risk as the insurance company has every right to say sorry, not our problem.

I rang AAMI today to tell them about my new wheels. They only wanted to know what they cost. I bet if I hit something they will ask a lot more questions then. (Mine are legal).

thx for that VRX,

so does the load rating of 94 apply to all gen3 magnas?

and how much did the gridIII's cost??


nope! only Sports, VRX, Ralliart

our lighter magnas have a load rating of 95 :D making it even more fun trying to find tyres for it

These are the HP Designs. Not so common in WA and I like them, im sort of over dished rims as they allways look smaller than they really are...

']nope! only Sports, VRX, Ralliart

our lighter magnas have a load rating of 95 :D making it even more fun trying to find tyres for it
What he said ^^^

I paid $1000 for all 4 tyres, including balancing and a decent 4 wheel alignment.

The Goodyears would have been $1090 for the same deal - ie, including balancing and alignment.

']nope! only Sports, VRX, Ralliart

our lighter magnas have a load rating of 95 :D making it even more fun trying to find tyres for it

My 2000 TH Exec is definately load rated at 94. It says so on the tyre placrd.