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Tiphareth
22-09-2004, 11:42 AM
hey guys, think my rotors are about to go, and dave has suggested a new ones too (or machining) so the question is, what brands have you guys gone with? what ones can i look at for just a basic replacement and what ones can i look at for a bit more in price?

any help, prices, locations much appreciated

Trav

TBuTcher
22-09-2004, 12:10 PM
hey guys, think my rotors are about to go, and dave has suggested a new ones too (or machining) so the question is, what brands have you guys gone with? what ones can i look at for just a basic replacement and what ones can i look at for a bit more in price?

any help, prices, locations much appreciated

Trav
http://pronto.customer.netspace.net.au/diamante/TH_Brembos_Calipers_Front_001.jpg http://pronto.customer.netspace.net.au/diamante/TH_Brembos_Calipers_Rear_002.jpg
http://pronto.customer.netspace.net.au/diamante/TH_Brembos_EVO_VIII_Rotors_Front_001.jpg http://pronto.customer.netspace.net.au/diamante/TH_Brembos_EVO_VIII_Rotors_Rear_002.jpg

Well if you want the second option ..... :D

This is what Im doing...
But Im still not sure how much modifcations I need to make to get them to fit... (other than the 18"+ rims needed for a decent fit)

Haydn

Redav
22-09-2004, 02:20 PM
Show off.

What you want? A new rotor / pad combination or a upgrade in size of rotors and calipers with more pistons?

TZABOY
22-09-2004, 03:52 PM
Haydn,
if your only going 320's on the front, you can fit them behind 17's, my mate is putting 330's on his old toyota wagon behind 17's. You only run into a problem if you don't have "true" 17's

I say "only" because i'll be going bigger :cool:

BOosted' BOoya
22-09-2004, 04:03 PM
this is official;


what ever OEM / Aftermarket brakes that will fit to an EVO VII will fit, and i say again WILL fit to a magna without modification. even the caliper mounting is the same......

heheh... i can talk from experience :D


Ben.

Killbilly
22-09-2004, 04:05 PM
this is official;


what ever OEM / Aftermarket brakes that will fit to an EVO VII will fit, and i say again WILL fit to a magna without modification. even the caliper mounting is the same......

heheh... i can talk from experience :D


Ben.

Do you know about 2nd gens Benny boy?

AussieMagna
22-09-2004, 04:06 PM
Your best bet is to upgrade to some DBA slotted rotors and even AWD Twin Pot front calipers. That will help substantially. Match these with a good set of pads like bendix advance and you've got a super setup!

Tiphareth
22-09-2004, 04:19 PM
at the moment i need prices guys. then i can decide if i want to "upgrade" or not. at the moment i just want a basic replacement, and if they are pretty cheap, then maybe i will look at the same size, but maybe cross drilled or sumthing. and yes i suppose i will need pads, so what are good for basic and how much? are what are the next best etc

Trav

TZABOY
22-09-2004, 06:17 PM
this is official;


what ever OEM / Aftermarket brakes that will fit to an EVO VII will fit, and i say again WILL fit to a magna without modification. even the caliper mounting is the same......

heheh... i can talk from experience :D


Ben.
well if evo calipers fit a 3rd gen, maybe 3000GT calipers will fit my 2nd gen, will find out in a week or so once they arrive :cool:

BOosted' BOoya
22-09-2004, 06:35 PM
well if evo calipers fit a 3rd gen, maybe 3000GT calipers will fit my 2nd gen, will find out in a week or so once they arrive :cool:


tee hee... 6pot calipers work wonders... and easy to find too.. just say you want to replace the EVO IV 4pot ones you have lol

Mr İharisma
22-09-2004, 06:43 PM
Bendix advance pads go for $70-$80 ( or more if you are getting ripped off ), got mine for $65 :D
DBA slotted rotors i think i was quoted $320ish for both front rotors un-fitted.

WSDsmurf
22-09-2004, 08:06 PM
How much for Bendix Ultimate?

WSD

Redav
23-09-2004, 06:32 AM
tee hee... 6pot calipers work wonders... and easy to find too.. just say you want to replace the EVO IV 4pot ones you have lol
What about the master cylinder? Is it up to the task?

Haydn and TZA-BOY, have you looked into this?

TBuTcher
23-09-2004, 07:49 AM
Not as yet...
I will be bracing it however..

Haydn

BOosted' BOoya
23-09-2004, 09:14 AM
What about the master cylinder? Is it up to the task?

Haydn and TZA-BOY, have you looked into this?


YES - so ive been told by MMAL Motorsport division :badgrin:

TBuTcher
24-09-2004, 06:51 AM
Well I can confirm that the FRONT EVO VI Brembos BOLT straight on...
No modifactions needed..... (actually there were two... remove the metel suround.. and change the bold size of the caliper.. for some reason they are a bit smaller :( )
Oh and did I tell you that tey look DAMN SEXY!!!!!!! :D
http://pronto.customer.netspace.net.au/diamante/StockBrakes.jpg

http://pronto.customer.netspace.net.au/diamante/BremboBrakes.jpg

http://pronto.customer.netspace.net.au/diamante/EVOVIIIRotor.jpg
Haydn

AussieMagna
24-09-2004, 09:57 AM
THATS JUST AWESOME!

What size were the rotors again?

TBuTcher
24-09-2004, 10:04 AM
THATS JUST AWESOME!

What size were the rotors again?
320-325mm for the fronts (4spot pistons) 300-305mm for the rear (twin spot pistons)
I havent tried to fit the rear yet.. Ill try over the weekend maybe..
I have left them of atm as I havent had the time to do it properlly.. (oh and they hit my rims :( .. so I have to make a few "modifications" :D )

So when I say they will bolt on with nothing elsse to do ... this is true.. but you need to have rims that will clear them.

Haydn

AussieMagna
24-09-2004, 10:07 AM
Well the fronts are amazing, you are running 19's aren't you. They look unreal and im sure they will perform like hell!

Well done! Was was the hit to the wallet if you don't mind me asking.

TBuTcher
24-09-2004, 10:20 AM
Well the fronts are amazing, you are running 19's aren't you. They look unreal and im sure they will perform like hell!

Well done! Was was the hit to the wallet if you don't mind me asking.20"
around $2000
Haydn

BOosted' BOoya
24-09-2004, 12:44 PM
nah nah nah nah nah - i told you they'd bolt straight on!

:D

Tiphareth
24-09-2004, 12:57 PM
so can anyone give me a basic answer? like a list of good brands etc? or some prices?

Trav

Altera98
24-09-2004, 01:33 PM
at the moment i need prices guys. then i can decide if i want to "upgrade" or not. at the moment i just want a basic replacement, and if they are pretty cheap, then maybe i will look at the same size, but maybe cross drilled or sumthing. and yes i suppose i will need pads, so what are good for basic and how much? are what are the next best etc

Trav

you are aware that u can have yours machined twice? most people here that have gone for DBA gold have been happy with the improvement. It seems only some who have gone with metallic pads have chewed out the DBA rotors. The bendix ultimate pads on their own are a noticable improvement, and do not ruin the rotors.

sola|2a
24-09-2004, 06:30 PM
Well I can confirm that the FRONT EVO VI Brembos BOLT straight on...
No modifactions needed..... (actually there were two... remove the metel suround.. and change the bold size of the caliper.. for some reason they are a bit smaller :( )
Oh and did I tell you that tey look DAMN SEXY!!!!!!! :D
http://pronto.customer.netspace.net.au/diamante/StockBrakes.jpg

http://pronto.customer.netspace.net.au/diamante/BremboBrakes.jpg

http://pronto.customer.netspace.net.au/diamante/EVOVIIIRotor.jpg
Haydn

OMG ... those brembos still look too smalll .... or r those rims too big?? lol

congrads on those brakes... pls keep us updated on their performance. wish i had the courage to part $2k to get those ...

TBuTcher
24-09-2004, 09:15 PM
nah nah nah nah nah - i told you they'd bolt straight on!.. Glad you were right :)
But I dont know about the rears.... this weekend will sonfirm... Main thing is the rear hand brake ... to make sure it willl still work.

Haydn

I was going to get 8 spot AMG brakes... but couldnt find a set of 380mm rotors that then needed :D oh well

magnatized
25-09-2004, 07:03 AM
well basic answer is hard to come by but, i also have a brake problem, as soon as the discs get a bit of heat in them they go crazy makin noises vibrating and just dont perform, i priced standard replacements from a auto shop in town, repco and even super cheap auto, they retail for about $80 each for the front and $72 for the rear they do them cheaper for the whole lot at once, but i have opted for the DBA Xseries drillrd and slotted with ultmate pads, i can get the rotors from super cheap all4 for 580 and with the pads 650, standard pads are about 35 for each end.
cheers.

philsTH
25-09-2004, 06:09 PM
I've got DBA slotted rotors ($115 each)with bendix advane pads ($55 set) year ago on my TH and find them better than the original, no brake fade is the biggest improvement I noticed and as a result better high speed braking.
If I were to do it again I would look at upgrading to AWD spec brakes.

With the cross drilled rotors there is some concern over cracking around the drill holes, I don't know wether this is true or just hype. If you go that way do a little research.


Hayden, Holy Crap them biggum brakes, you'll need a racing harness to hold you back when yu step on em :bowrofl:

Mark H
25-09-2004, 07:23 PM
I've got DBA slotted rotors ($115 each)with bendix advane pads ($55 set) year ago on my TH and find them better than the original, no brake fade is the biggest improvement I noticed and as a result better high speed braking.


Just some further information...

I have DBA slotted all round with bendix performax all round. I have found that from a cold start, they are usually a bit slippery on the first application because they have no heat in them, but after that they are awesome. I have to say I have not been kind to my new brakes since getting them, I have done many high speed stops all the way to zero and there has been no warpage to the discs. It seems the pads are absorbing the heat as they have been desinged and the slots are dispersing excess waste material as they were intended. I have no hesitation in recommending the above combination.

If your after faster stopping and high performance application, you would be best upgrading to a larger rotor and a larger caliper per previous posts, but as you can appreciate, this comes with a rather large price tag, whereas, the new DBA rotors and bendix pads are a rather good compromise.

Tiphareth
29-09-2004, 10:55 AM
how much should i pay for an EBC (i think they said that one) per rotor, for standard size.

i was quoted $175 a rotor (for the front)

and how much for pads? black stuff? green stuff?

Trav

Quansta
29-09-2004, 03:42 PM
hey trav..

give Mike at ASAP brakes a call, his number is 0419924771, tell him i referred you,
i'm getting mine done with him next week. DBA slotted on the front, standard rotors on the rear and new pads all round...he'll come to you as well, no need to take it to a workshop..
cheers
Quan :)

driver
29-09-2004, 05:29 PM
What about the DBA sloted/cross drilled ones? Are they worth the extra money?...compared to just DBA sloted? I had been quoted a $150 for DBA sloted vs $200 for cross drilled. Expensive quote looking at what Phil paid though!

Altera98
30-09-2004, 01:25 PM
What about the DBA sloted/cross drilled ones? Are they worth the extra money?...compared to just DBA sloted? I had been quoted a $150 for DBA sloted vs $200 for cross drilled. Expensive quote looking at what Phil paid though!

No cross drilling was good for ventilation on dispersing gases on SOLID discs. on the magna the fronts are vented so dont need more help cooling. The rear is solid but does not work hard enough being fwd. Also the rear disc is so small that thye drilling would significantly reduce the actual stopping area. sloted construction is far more modern and superior tech to get rid of gasses and dust. drilling as wellis only dress up, and in race aplication is often too weak and cracks and needs replacing after races.

philsTH
30-09-2004, 03:41 PM
If there are 2 or more people interested in buying slotted rotors I can get them from the same place I did for $100.00 EA :) or possibly less than I paid :rant: . I've yet to price the pads but they'll be a good price. I'm in SEQ. These are genuine DBA and Bendix. It's a company discount from certian stores thing.
I'll post in the for sale section provided I'm not breaking any rules and you will only pay excactly what I pay.

Quansta
30-09-2004, 04:27 PM
wow.. that's cheap..
damn, i've alreay booked mine in for next saturday..
getting DBA slotted all round with Bendix advance all round as well
including fitting $670

Altera98
30-09-2004, 04:41 PM
hey id be interested, what do they retail for? and how much would freight to WA be?

Tiphareth
30-09-2004, 04:47 PM
yeh mines booked in for tomorrow, just with dave

getting the rears machined, and hopefully the pads are alrite, and getting some EBC or whatever on the fronmt, standard size, with some bendix pads i think. rotors are costing me $350 and the pads around $100

Trav

philsTH
30-09-2004, 05:35 PM
Sorry about the highjack but off to For Sale we go.

Redav
01-10-2004, 05:36 AM
The rear is solid but does not work hard enough being fwd.
Umm.. I think it's because it's brake bias is 65/35 front to rear, not because what wheels drive the car. Almost all cars have the fronts doing the most work while braking, especially while braking hard.

Altera98
01-10-2004, 10:17 AM
Umm.. I think it's because it's brake bias is 65/35 front to rear, not because what wheels drive the car. Almost all cars have the fronts doing the most work while braking, especially while braking hard.

yes i would agree with that, it makes sense that unless u also have your foot on the accelerator too it shouldnt mater which wheels are driving when braking. but thats what they told me about fwd when i was looking into brake upgrades anyway one place said about 80% work done up front :doubt: .
i did an engine transplant on my rwd datsun adding a lot more power, and to get it passed legally they only wanted the front brakes upgraded, so yeh.

Altera98
01-10-2004, 10:29 AM
yeh mines booked in for tomorrow, just with dave

getting the rears machined, and hopefully the pads are alrite, and getting some EBC or whatever on the fronmt, standard size, with some bendix pads i think. rotors are costing me $350 and the pads around $100

Trav

and then book it in for another set of pads now, becos they be down to metal by the time they can get round to it again lol

Redav
01-10-2004, 10:32 AM
i did an engine transplant on my rwd datsun adding a lot more power, and to get it passed legally they only wanted the front brakes upgraded, so yeh.
Yeah, some transport authorities require this. Considering the nose will dive when you hit the stop pedal, fronts are always going to do more as they load up and the rears do the opposite.