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peteraaa
05-09-2014, 08:52 AM
I have a 2002 Magna Advance and was wondering if there is any way to program the ECU to lock the doors after starting to drive? ie to improve safety when my daughters are driving the car.

MadMax
05-09-2014, 08:57 AM
Some cars do an auto-lock once the speed gets up to a certain KPH, but I doubt if the Magna BEM can be modified to do so.
It's just a matter of locking the driver's door from the inside while driving, and all doors will be locked. Just flip the lock toggle on the interior door handle. My wife gets me to do that whenever she gets nervous. lol

mcs_xi
05-09-2014, 09:05 AM
Some cars do an auto-lock once the speed gets up to a certain KPH, but I doubt if the Magna BEM can be modified to do so.
It's just a matter of locking the driver's door from the inside while driving, and all doors will be locked. Just flip the lock toggle on the interior door handle. My wife gets me to do that whenever she gets nervous. lol

This can be done using a DEI-528t pulse timer relay.

Or simply flick the interior lock switch.

My keyless go system has an autolock built into it. It locks the doors after around 20 seconds of movement and unlocks them when the engine is switched off. However, I disable this feature due to the nature of the Magna BEM locking system.

The internal lock is a cable and not electric. So if you pulse the wire for the outside door key barrel, which you would have to do, the BEM is too stupid to know the car is on and then arms the factory alarm. So if anyone manually opens a door, you have the lights and sirens.

Mike

MadMax
05-09-2014, 09:16 AM
Wouldn't it be great if we could look at the features of newer cars, and easily retrofit them to a Magna? I'd like the auto-lock, auto headlights, auto wipers, etc on my Magna, but . . .

mcs_xi
05-09-2014, 09:20 AM
Wouldn't it be great if we could look at the features of newer cars, and easily retrofit them to a Magna? I'd like the auto-lock, auto headlights, auto wipers, etc on my Magna, but . . .

All is possible and I have done all of that.......just not to your Magna.

MadMax
05-09-2014, 10:09 AM
All is possible and I have done all of that.......just not to your Magna.

Don't get me wrong, I'm against retrofiting those features to any car. They require aftermarket bits that often turn out to not work well with the car's systems, or are unreliable in the long term, and give lots of headaches when it comes to fault finding. Locking doors, turning on/off headlights, wipers, etc can be done manually. lol

mcs_xi
05-09-2014, 11:40 AM
Don't get me wrong, I'm against retrofiting those features to any car. They require aftermarket bits that often turn out to not work well with the car's systems, or are unreliable in the long term, and give lots of headaches when it comes to fault finding. Locking doors, turning on/off headlights, wipers, etc can be done manually. lol

I haven't heard anything quite that dim in some time. Why have a car, you can get to work on foot. Less likely to go wrong.........

MadMax
05-09-2014, 11:52 AM
I haven't heard anything quite that dim in some time. Why have a car, you can get to work on foot. Less likely to go wrong.........

Sure, why not! I'm going to walk to work from now on! Or take public transport, so that when the bus breaks down I won't have the job of fixing it. /* sarcasm intended */

(Not sure if "dim" best describes not wanting to add bits to a car that makes it less reliable or harder to troubleshoot? I've twice had to rip out aftermarket immobilisers/alarms just to get cars running . . . No fun trying to reverse someone elses kludge jobs without documentation for the aftermarket bits. )

erad
05-09-2014, 12:27 PM
Why do you want to lock the doors when the car is moving? Locking the doors does not make the any more secure from flying open in the event of a crash, but certainly impedes access to rescue someone from a crashed car. The only reason I can see to lock doors when you are inside is to prevent someone from entering the car eg when you are stopped at traffic lights, and then you are not moving anyway. If you have kids in the car, you can activate the chilp-proof locks which disable the inner handles from opening the door.

mcs_xi
05-09-2014, 12:32 PM
Why do you want to lock the doors when the car is moving? Locking the doors does not make the any more secure from flying open in the event of a crash, but certainly impedes access to rescue someone from a crashed car. The only reason I can see to lock doors when you are inside is to prevent someone from entering the car eg when you are stopped at traffic lights, and then you are not moving anyway. If you have kids in the car, you can activate the chilp-proof locks which disable the inner handles from opening the door.

On this point, I agree. However I will point out that the TJ onwards have a BEM connection to the SRS module. If the crash sensor is activated, the doors unlock and interior lights go on automatically. TH and earlier do not have this function. Just a bit of handy FYI

Ensoniq5
05-09-2014, 04:13 PM
...to prevent someone from entering the car eg when you are stopped at traffic lights, and then you are not moving anyway.

The doors would not unlock automatically below a certain speed, they'll stay locked until unlocked manually. I gather the OP's reason is security, ie. stopping anybody from opening the doors from the outside while at the lights etc. Obviously this could be done by flicking the driver's door lock switch, presumably the OP's daughters are a bit forgetful or lack dad's level of concern. My old Toyota Crown did this at about 15-20kph by way of four large, noisy solenoids. Scared the living sh1t out of any passengers not familiar with the car! I wouldn't think this would be a difficult conversion for someone with a bit of technical electronics know-how.

Username123
06-09-2014, 11:50 AM
My sisters TJ with an aftermarket alarm does this after the car is turned on. Locks all doors.

Millenium7
06-09-2014, 12:38 PM
So OP, your location says new south wales but i'm guessing you actually live in Nigeria?

Why would you possibly want auto locking doors. That is so much more unsafe than leaving them unlocked
What is the likelihood of someone opening your door and endangering your safety at traffic lights in Australia? Laughably low, like really... cmon....
It is far, far, far more likely that you'll get in an accident and a locked door becomes a barricade

MadMax
06-09-2014, 12:46 PM
It is far, far, far more likely that you'll get in an accident and a locked door becomes a barricade

Unless the BEM is smart enough to know to unlock the doors when the airbags go off . . . (See post #10)

Anyhow, with all those muggers, car-jackers, white female slave traders, druggies, kidnappers, terrorists, suicide bombers etc wandering out fair streets both day and night, might it not be wise to play save and tell daughter(s) to LOCK the flipping doors themselves?

Millenium7
06-09-2014, 01:24 PM
Anyhow, with all those muggers, car-jackers, white female slave traders, druggies, kidnappers, terrorists, suicide bombers etc wandering out fair streets both day and night, might it not be wise to play save and tell daughter(s) to LOCK the flipping doors themselves?

bwahahahah what, in Australia? are you actually serious?
Seems like a 'first world problem' blown way out of proportion to me. "My nintendo was nicked, now i'm convinced i'll be kidnapped from my car and raped when I go for a casual drive"

MadMax
06-09-2014, 02:14 PM
bwahahahah what, in Australia? are you actually serious?

You had to ask? No, I wasn't. It's the kids with the squeegies who pester you to allow them to clean the windscreen for a dollar while you are stopped at traffic lights that are the danger though!

(No, still not serious)

EDIT: I never lock the doors while driving, I don't feel the need to do so.