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Jorre
24-09-2004, 08:35 AM
I've got a Kenwood EQ and cross over model is KGC-6042a and I was just buying a new deck, with 5v preouts! I'm not sure of the preouts on the eq though they may be just 3v, but I cant find any referance to the output level on the net or anywhere else. now I'm not a expert but reducing a 5v signal to 3v would be pretty silly so if they eq is indeed a 3v it would be a silly idea, does anyone know anything about this cause I dont know what to do. would the eq even have its own preout voltage o would it just modifiy the existing one coming from the deck ?
Sorry if this is to confusing for anyone its hard to explain!
Hunter
24-09-2004, 09:02 AM
From what I can gather on the very few spec which kenwood has on this unit, I doubt that it is going to reduce the line voltage of your pre-outs. Regardless there is really no problem with reducing the line voltage a little, it will just mean your amps will have to work a little harder to amplify a slighly lower signal. If we are talking a high end system line voltage may be more important to help elimate noise and to keep the amps a little happier, however this usually involves the use of line drivers. However the unit effectively turns one pre-out into 3, so it is possible that signal strength could be reduced at that point. The unit you have is more of a active crossover, simply giving you more control over each channel and splitting it all up for you, once again not being a line driver or similar device I would be surprised to see any drop in line voltage....easy way to find out, get urself a test CD with a sine wave, whack the multimeter on the back of your head unit pre-outs and check the voltage, then hook it up to the eq and check the out on the back of that for any difference. I would assuming that 5v would be fine to feed it as well, there are no gain controls or adjustments (as you would find on a line driver) to change the units setup for different input voltage.
Jorre
24-09-2004, 09:46 AM
Thats exaclty what I was hoping, thanks for your input! I will try measuring the outputs once I got it all set up ;)
Manual
24-09-2004, 05:48 PM
i hide most crossovers in the kick panels.
not sure if they have them in your car - but they should.
As a hint / tip though - put them in a plastic bag or padded bag so as to keep the dust out.
Manual
Jorre
27-09-2004, 12:52 PM
i hide most crossovers in the kick panels.
not sure if they have them in your car - but they should.
As a hint / tip though - put them in a plastic bag or padded bag so as to keep the dust out.
Manual
I think think you misunderstand, we are talking about a PRE amplification cross crossover unit not the kind you would get with say a set of splits. This unit would be mounted in the dash and has many nobs and leavers for quick easy adjusting
Manual
27-09-2004, 06:03 PM
I think think you misunderstand, we are talking about a PRE amplification cross crossover unit not the kind you would get with say a set of splits. This unit would be mounted in the dash and has many nobs and leavers for quick easy adjusting
You mean an equilizer??
Why didn't you just say "equilizer" then?? then i would have understood ;)
Manual
There are a few things to watch here. The unit is not really an equaliser (although you could get away with calling it one I guess). It's more of an active level controller.
Regarding the settings; The output signal of a componet is not a true indicator of volume or sound quality. The headunit has 5 volt pre-out. Remember music is constantly changing so your headunit is seldom outputting 5 volts. The voltage is constantly changing and this is where you match the amplifier gain sensetivity to the headunit. If the deck goes 0-35 on the dial (and 0-5 volts on the pre-out lines), then you must match the gains on the amp to hit full volume at 34 (or 4.99 volts). The same can be said for the 3 volt signal. You simply match the gains of the amp so when the EQ outputs its 0-3 volt volume range, the amplifier is matched to this. High voltage doesn't always mean high SQ. More noise tends to be induced into the system when amplifiers sensetivity gains are set high but when they're set correctly even a 2 volt pre-out will sound good with minimal hiss.
On the subject of pre-out voltage transferring, the input has no bearing on the output. Even if you feed a gazillion volt pre-out signal to the EQ, it will still output 0-3 volts because this is what the unit is physically designed to do. Just watch it is capable of handling a 5 volt input because many EQ's cannot. This is why so many line drivers damage so many components. :)
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