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Evil666
04-02-2015, 10:32 PM
So... Long time since I even considered re painting a car, but my third gen paint is crap big time.

If i do go a full diy re spray, at home. What paint options do I have??
I don't want to do a back to bare metal job!

No 2 pack obviously.


Is acrylic lacquer ok?

MadMax
05-02-2015, 04:26 AM
So... Long time since I even considered re painting a car, but my third gen paint is crap big time.
If i do go a full diy re spray, at home. What paint options do I have??
I don't want to do a back to bare metal job!
No 2 pack obviously.
Is acrylic lacquer ok?

I've painted several cars under the carport with acrylic lacquer. Pros and cons with it.
Looking at keeping the car the same colour or a complete colour change?
I have an old thread somewhere repainting a hail damaged TJ to a different colour using acrylic.

May be worth a quick look:
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83266&highlight=tj+restore

Evil666
05-02-2015, 05:35 AM
Thanks max, will check it out.

Due to funds I am maybe doing it pretty dodgy, but paint is so bad it can't get worse, and really if I have to re-do it a year down the track when I have saved up more then that's fine.

I don't have anywhere undercover and use the car daily so it's hard to do a proper job anyway.

I looked at plastidip but bloody expensive, then I toyed with the idea of cheap rattle can paint.
Even painted a spare guard to see how it looked and to be honest for $10 total in materials, and no need for a compressor and mixing paint or cleaning spray gun etc. it looked pretty damn good.
I will post up a photo of it when I have time....but while the guard was manageable, the thought of doing a larger area like bonnet has me worried.

So now I'm thinking maybe I just need to bite the bullet and do a half decent effort with the proper gear.
Would like to do a colour change but I won't have time to do inside doors and stuff.

Will ponder a bit more.

MadMax
05-02-2015, 05:49 AM
Research "$50 paint job" on the web - using paint rollers and marine paint instead of spray gun or rattle cans.

Unless you can take the car off the road for weeks or even months, forget a DIY acrylic spray job. And yeah, it takes a lot of time and effort.

Edit: My thread is now 4 years old, so some pics are missing. The acrylic paint is holding up ok, nowhere as good as a 2 pac job obviously.

barryb
05-02-2015, 05:57 AM
You can hit it with a fine wet and dry 2000 sandpaper and buff it with some compound, polish etc and it would look a lot nicer too.

mudfish
05-02-2015, 05:30 PM
[QUOTE=MadMax;1621495]Research "$50 paint job" on the web - using paint rollers and marine paint instead of spray gun or rattle cans.

Seriously Max, where do you find this stuff? I just checked it out on YouTube. Old mate with the rust oleum and the roller. 8 coats and it looks pretty damn good!

I'm going to give it a try on a couple of old panels I've got lying around.

stroppy
07-02-2015, 02:56 PM
Not sure where you live but down here in Melbourne there are a few panel shops that will do a two-pack respray for cheap as long as you have done the sanding back and general preparation.

MadPat
02-03-2015, 06:42 PM
just came across this thread, been considering options for freshening up the sad sad paint on my TH. Bought the car a year ago with 126k's on it for $900 and that included 7 month reg. at first wasnt going to bother with the paint, but everytime I get into the car it makes me cringe. so after getting the $3500 quotes for a same colour respray, and canning the vinyl wrapping idea came across a place in bayswater that hire spray booths. sounds like you know how to spray paint so could be an option to get a top notch 2pack paint job. i think the fee for hire is $350 and thats for a bake cycle, so you can take as long as u need to do final prep.

TJ Sports
03-03-2015, 06:46 AM
Europaint do $999 resprays, they used to the $599

http://www.europaintaustralia.com.au/

MadPat
03-03-2015, 10:43 AM
Europaint do $999 resprays, they used to the $599

http://www.europaintaustralia.com.au/


ROFL ... The sign still says 699, web site says 999, guy at the shop says.... Ohh umm gee, she bit rough ... Probably be about $2500.
I ask about the advertised $999 .. Nah mate too much work in it for that price. (Car has fading paint and small ding in fender) so I guess if your paint work is perfect they can do it for that price... But then if your paint is perfect you wouldn't need to get a respray.

Has anyone actually ever had their car re sprayed for $999??

TJ Sports
03-03-2015, 12:07 PM
ROFL ... The sign still says 699, web site says 999, guy at the shop says.... Ohh umm gee, she bit rough ... Probably be about $2500.
I ask about the advertised $999 .. Nah mate too much work in it for that price. (Car has fading paint and small ding in fender) so I guess if your paint work is perfect they can do it for that price... But then if your paint is perfect you wouldn't need to get a respray.

Has anyone actually ever had their car re sprayed for $999??


2500 is a lot better than 3500. post up a pic of the car

MadMax
03-03-2015, 12:34 PM
Sign says "from $999", ie that is the starting price. It all depends on the car, extra work = extra cost. Maybe if you did all the prep work first?

barryb
03-03-2015, 12:34 PM
Who is doing all the prep work? If 2500 including prep work that is a pretty good deal, though would wonder which type of paint and thinners they would be using and how good the prep would be.

MadMax
03-03-2015, 12:40 PM
I imagine it is for a closed door, same colour respray.
I'd quiz them on warranty - don't want to end up with overspray, runs, insects, hair etc in the finished product and be told to go away when you complain.

GTVi
03-03-2015, 01:38 PM
Going the "cheap" route with paint shops means not enough work has been put into it, and the paint work won't last as long...its all in the prep work.
I would watch and learn from my old man who was a professional spray painter, 90% of the work was all prep. Boring enough to drive you insane.

MadMax
03-03-2015, 03:28 PM
Going the "cheap" route with paint shops means not enough work has been put into it, and the paint work won't last as long...its all in the prep work.
I would watch and learn from my old man who was a professional spray painter, 90% of the work was all prep. Boring enough to drive you insane.

Yep. 90% is work you don't get to see in the finished product. But it sure comes back to bite you if that work isn't done right!

One bloke + 1 working week might see it ready for paint. (*)
At say $80 per hour (or whatever shops charge), 40 hour week, that's $3,200 just in labour.

(*) Rough estimate

MushroomLamp
04-03-2015, 01:38 PM
Going the "cheap" route with paint shops means not enough work has been put into it, and the paint work won't last as long...its all in the prep work.
I would watch and learn from my old man who was a professional spray painter, 90% of the work was all prep. Boring enough to drive you insane.

You could it was as boring as..
..
watching paint dry :cool:

MadMax
04-03-2015, 01:44 PM
You could it was as boring as..
..
watching paint dry :cool:

Actually, watching the colour coat dry is the exciting bit, in this case! lol
The rest, not so much.

barryb
05-03-2015, 05:15 AM
You could just about guarantee that the finished result will include dust and runs in the paint, a lot of quality shops have that anyway, always going to be some dust and runs no matter how good the painter is and how clean the spray booth is. They usually de nib with 1500>2000>3000 wet and dry and buff with a compound to finish off.

GTVi
05-03-2015, 09:54 AM
I notice a lot of new low priced cars today still have post painting issues from the factory. But they seem to be getting better.

barryb
05-03-2015, 05:35 PM
I remember when the VN Commodore first came out, paint sprayed by robots, The paint felt like 400 grit sandpaper, there was heaps of overspray on them. A lot of the SS Commodores had to be resprayed and the ironing boards on the back boot lid were just drilled out holes to mount the ironing boards after they were painted, holes were bare metal.

kevvy_07
06-03-2015, 08:06 PM
Do NOT get your car painted at Europaint.. I went to look at a car a few years ago that had just been "professionally repainted" by Europaint and to describe it in one sentence.. It's a 10 metre paint job, meaning it looks good from a distance but up close there was over spray, bad orange peel in spots a few runs and from what I have been told (not sure on how true it is) but there prep work is pretty much a quick scotch brite over the car and away you go

MadMax
06-03-2015, 08:28 PM
They make no claim as to "professionally prepped", so I'm not surprised.
I imagine there are plenty of professional spray painters who think spraying the paint is the most important part of the job. It isn't.

Watched a youtube video on spray painting a car. It was basically the guy laying on the clearcoat. I wondered why the other jobs before that stage weren't shown.

trevordd
07-03-2015, 07:55 PM
Hi there! Nice thread here. I have to respray my car too because of some huge paint damages... I want to protect my next paint now. My friend recommended me some products from http://www.colourshield.com What do you think of such protectors? I need your thoughts

barryb
08-03-2015, 05:42 AM
Hi there! Nice thread here. I have to respray my car too because of some huge paint damages... I want to protect my next paint now. My friend recommended me some products from http://www.colourshield.com What do you think of such protectors? I need your thoughts

I will not say this type of stuff gives any long term protection, the jury is still out on that, personally I think regular washing and once a year polish/wax and quick detailer will achieve the same thing and a much better value for money. In any case, do not seal up the paint for at least a month after painting, most paint need to breathe for this period otherwise you will end up with a slightly milky finish to the paint.

trevordd
08-03-2015, 05:27 PM
Thanks for you response a lot! Really helpful