Hi all just wondering whats the best all round standard size 215/60R16 tyres for a Verada, I was thinking Firestone TZ700, anyone have any ideas? cheers

Hi all just wondering whats the best all round standard size 215/60R16 tyres for a Verada, I was thinking Firestone TZ700, anyone have any ideas? cheers

Personal choice I think, I just fitted some Falkens to my AWD and find them pretty good, low road noise, very open tread pattern, fairly soft and grippy. Did a trip Brissie with them via the putty road, new england and Boonah to Beaudesert road and I enjoyed the ride.

Personal choice I think, I just fitted some Falkens to my AWD and find them pretty good, low road noise, very open tread pattern, fairly soft and grippy. Did a trip Brissie with them via the putty road, new england and Boonah to Beaudesert road and I enjoyed the ride.

Thank so much for your reply barryb, I will check those tyres out.

I went with Bridgestone Turanza t001 it's a good allrounder tyre with good levels of grip in the wet and they don't squeal too much when pushed at the limits of my suspension setup.

I'm looking for new 16" tyres for my magna, I want the quietest, am looking at michelin primacy 3ST. has anyone used these?
or maybe some Toyos?
thanks

After reading all the test reports I could find (mainly on tyrereviews.co.uk) I fitted Dunlop Fast Response ($155 15 months ago).
I've had no regrets. It came down to a choice between them & Pirelli Cinturato P7 & Continental Premium Contact 2.

Firestone TZ700

Have these on the front of the TL wagon. OK tyres, but not lasting well. Sub 25,000 Km.
Good level of grip and straight line stability though.


I went with Bridgestone Turanza
That's what will replace them soon.

Actually, I was planning to buy those first up, but the shop didn't have any and the Firestones were recommended. I don't really like needing to buy new tyres every 2 years so the Firestones are off the shopping list. lol

Have these on the front of the TL wagon. OK tyres, but not lasting well. Sub 25,000 Km.
Good level of grip and straight line stability though.


That's what will replace them soon.

Actually, I was planning to buy those first up, but the shop didn't have any and the Firestones were recommended. I don't really like needing to buy new tyres every 2 years so the Firestones are off the shopping list. lol

Hi Max, thanks for your reply, I was thinking about the firestones as I read some good stuff about them but yes I don't want to replace tyres every two years either say may give that idea the flick, I think do the Bridgestone Turanza are very popular, there seems to be a few different types of Turanza tyres when I done a search.

After reading all the test reports I could find (mainly on tyrereviews.co.uk) I fitted Dunlop Fast Response ($165 15 months ago).
I've had no regrets. It came down to a choice between them & Pirelli Cinturato P7 & Continental Premium Contact 2.

Thanks for your reply Shepherd, will checkout those tyres out

I went with Bridgestone Turanza t001 it's a good allrounder tyre with good levels of grip in the wet and they don't squeal too much when pushed at the limits of my suspension setup.

Last 18mths since I discovered Bridgestone Oz factory had closed & I couldn't buy brandnew Made in Oz ER30s anymore (now made in Thailand, selling at same price!!)... yup decided to try T001s. Japan-made, V-rated.

They're great, surprisingly grippy (especially when brandnew first 3 mths!) and very quiet. I don't think I've noticed the 2% fuel saving they've promised... but I can't complain.

Running them on 2 cars now.

Priced well at Costco too.

has anyone used bridgestone serenity plus?

Last 18mths since I discovered Bridgestone Oz factory had closed & I couldn't buy brandnew Made in Oz ER30s anymore (now made in Thailand, selling at same price!!)... yup decided to try T001s. Japan-made, V-rated.

They're great, surprisingly grippy (especially when brandnew first 3 mths!) and very quiet. I don't think I've noticed the 2% fuel saving they've promised... but I can't complain.

Running them on 2 cars now.

Priced well at Costco too.

I had one new er30 when I bought the car 6 months ago. I wanted to replace the other 3 but no stock available. The T001 was $129 each at my local bob jane.

b/stone have a 4 for the price of 3 sale, so next week I'm getting 4 serenity plus for $477

TBH I think that the Pirelli P7 Cinturato is a better tire and will cost similar:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/215-60-16-2156016-99V-PIRELLI-P7-CINTURATO-BRAND-NEW-TYRE-/171666691665?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item27f821d651

There are a few different versions of this tyre, but the one in the link is the best one for our cars.

Let us know whichever way you go

thanks, they sound good. I'll find out what they cost in SA. Those Ebay tyres will be pricey once I pay for shipping, fitting, balancing etc.

There have been some mentions of Bridgestone, but not of the following type:

http://www.stgeorgetyres.com.au/tyres/bridgestone-tyres-215-60-16-adrenalin-re002-new-tyres/product-detail.aspx

I am now the new owner of a TL awd with standard, but admittedly very used, Bridgestone Turanza's with which i am not overly impressed with after 2000 km of driving my new car.

When the tyres are in need of replacement(soon), I will probably go for the 002 Adrenalin, as I have the 001 version(205 60 15) on the front of my R31 Skyline, and were a good improvement over the Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval 205 60 15's they replaced.

They seem to be a good tyre and are an asymetric tread type which tends to be a better performance option as compared with a symetrical tread(all other things being equal).

I am not saying the Turanza's as fitted to my awd are a bad tyre, but just "average" IMO.

Where possible, I always try to get a directional or asymetric tyre tread.

Another asymetric tyre to mention, which I am also considering, is:

Yokohama C Drive 2.

http://www.tyresales.com.au/tyres/yokohama/c.drive2_%28ac02%29/215-60r16/3421?q=4#moreinfo

the pirellis cost about $50 each more than the b'stones, and I can't justify that extra expense; will let you know what the serenity plus are like

Leadfoot, those RE002 tyres may grip well but they aren't suited to these cars, in the sense that most people want a fairly silent tyre.
The C Drive 2 is a better option, but I believe that the Pirelli or Toyo Teo Plus may be a better option still.
It says the C Drive 2 is a step up from the A drives, but they better be a few steps up as I had the A drives and they were horrendous.

Cooper, at $50 more a corner you may be better off with the Serenity Plus.

I've also considered using 225/55/16 Michelin PS3 but the cost is getting up there as you'd need new wider wheels too.

has anyone used bridgestone serenity plus?

I got a pair of these a while ago. They replaced a pair of Bridgestone Turanza GR-90 which scrubbed out (likley due to lack of rotation). In terms of noise they are as good as any other tyre I've had. Wet weather grip is quite good, but not nearly as good as the GR-90s, which were absolutley fantastic when they were new (had to try very hard to break traction, even in a roundabout). I paid $105 last year for size 205/65 R15, from memory they are made in Thailand as oposed to the GR-90 which were from Japan and unforutnitley not made anymore.

A few years ago now I bought a pair of Toyo Teo Plus and was soreley disapointed the first time it rained. I'd read many reviews of how they were susposed to be good in the wet etc., now I think these people must not drive that hard if they think they are good in the wet. I find them shocking in the wet, the original RE92s were better at 130,000km than these are. I put them on the rear for a while with the serenity plus on the front, going through a roundabout in the wet too quick would result in the rear end trying to overtake the front end. On the plus side they are rather quiet and seem to be wearing very well (so I'll be stuck with them for a while yet). Dry weather they are ok, but still not as good as the Bridgestones.

had the serenity plus put on yesterday. Noticeably quieter than the michelin primacy LC, which were already quieter than the stock RE92s, also ride better. grip seems fine. It rained today and it seemed fine in the rain. Steering is slightly lighter. Happy with these tyres. V quiet.

Thanks for the initial feedback.

I have 6 weeks until re-registration when I will have to replace my Turanza's.

Further feedback would be appreciated by me, and I am certain, by other members.

I'm running 215/60/16 yoko C drive's.

Came with the TJ VR-X wheels I bought.

Fantastic tyre in wet and dry

Guys I just got a set of Pirelli P7 Cinturato in 215/60/16
I can't give a review on them yet, but they seem much bigger than my ER30 in the same size, is this normal?
They are so much bigger that I can feel I sit much higher while driving. Doesn't seem right.

well, you'll be sitting higher by at least the thickness of the tread that's on these and which was worn off the old tyres. Clearly you have an excellent eye for height. Have you checked the tyre pressures?

I just took the spare out to compare to the new tyres, and it seems the height comes from:
1. As you mentioned the tread. The Pirelli P7 has really deep tread, plus my old tyres were at the TWI
2. I am not sure of the pressure, but it is clearly a lot higher than I had my ER30s at and causing the car to sit higher.

I would say I must be about 2.5cm higher than before overall, which I really did not expect to be able to notice at all.

had the serenity plus put on yesterday. Noticeably quieter than the michelin primacy LC, which were already quieter than the stock RE92s, also ride better. grip seems fine. It rained today and it seemed fine in the rain. Steering is slightly lighter. Happy with these tyres. V quiet.

I am looking at these particular bridgestone tyres to replace all of the 17 year old tyres on my verada KS (mostly unused and still have plenty of thread on them!).
Aim is to get a safe and comfortable ride with a reasonable wear (40K to 50K is fine) in "normal" all season driving on bitumen roads.

Price quoted was $129/tyre (205/65/R15) but there is a 4 for 3 deal (ie $96.75/tyre!) - is that a reasonable price for these tyres?.
And are they any good in comparison to other brands in that price bracket.

Looking at all these tyres is doing my head in as there is just so much marketing BS.

I'm running 215/60/16 yoko C drive's.

Came with the TJ VR-X wheels I bought.

Fantastic tyre in wet and dry
Me too and I agree. I have them on both my FWD and AWD atm. Negatives are soft sidewalls and they can tram a bit.

I just took the spare out to compare to the new tyres, and it seems the height comes from:
1. As you mentioned the tread. The Pirelli P7 has really deep tread, plus my old tyres were at the TWI
2. I am not sure of the pressure, but it is clearly a lot higher than I had my ER30s at and causing the car to sit higher.

I would say I must be about 2.5cm higher than before overall, which I really did not expect to be able to notice at all.

Another reason would be the wider rims you have fitted them to. The sidewalls don't have to curve in as far & so they would be slightly taller (similar to the effect of higher than normal pressure).

Shepherd, yes I considered that but really this would attribute a negligible amount I believe

I am looking at these particular bridgestone tyres to replace all of the 17 year old tyres on my verada KS (mostly unused and still have plenty of thread on them!).
Aim is to get a safe and comfortable ride with a reasonable wear (40K to 50K is fine) in "normal" all season driving on bitumen roads.

Price quoted was $129/tyre (205/65/R15) but there is a 4 for 3 deal (ie $96.75/tyre!) - is that a reasonable price for these tyres?.
And are they any good in comparison to other brands in that price bracket.

Looking at all these tyres is doing my head in as there is just so much marketing BS.

sounds like a great deal to me. I rang around a lot and nothing came close to the b'stone 4 for 3 deal. $96/tyre normally gets you nasty stuff, IMO. The more I drive on the serenity plus, the more i like them. The last turanzas we had lasted about 75k. B'stone claim to guarantee these for 50k.

@ cooperplace - seems these tyres are getting a mostly good review from what I can gather.
Your tyres would be more expensive, being R16 as opposed to the rada KS with the very popular/cheaper 205/65/R15.

I drove a bit more with the new P7 Cinturatos, so far they are doing well. I can't say I noticed them being quieter than the ER30 Bridgestones they replaced, if anything it seemed negligible. They seem to offer a tiny bit more compliant ride, but also do feel a little bit more squishy (at the same psi). The last statement may not be true as this was under "test conditions" which I never tried with the old tyres.

What is much much better is wet weather grip, and grip overall. They seem to have about double the grip of the ER30s in the wet, finally I feel confident driving the car in any weather conditions.

Overall I would highly recommend them, at $115 per tyre in the OEM 16" size I think they are definitely very good value.
Smooth rolling, quiet, compliant ride, heaps of tread, good grip wet and dry.

the more I drive on the serenity plus, the more I like them: much quieter than primacy LC, and ride better. But no improvement in mileage, not that I expected it. I never believe these claims.

Have you had a chance to drive them in the wet?
Their wet traction is only rated as A.

In my case too, the more I drive the car with the Pirelli P7 Cinturatos the more I like them. Very highly recommended, and cheap too.

the serenity plus seem good in the wet, much better than the worn primacy LCs, which were hopeless. But I don't push it in the wet, so it's hard to say how they compare to another new tyre.

Serenity/Ecopia might feel a bit more squirmy than T001, haven't tried on a Magna yet.



Price quoted was $129/tyre (205/65/R15) but there is a 4 for 3 deal (ie $96.75/tyre!) - is that a reasonable price for these tyres?.

That's a crashhot steal :D yeah "1 free" is better than Costco often doing $70 Off for 4.

Costco are same $130

Overall I would highly recommend them, at $115 per tyre in the OEM 16" size I think they are definitely very good value.
Smooth rolling, quiet, compliant ride, heaps of tread, good grip wet and dry.

Was that $115 all up (valve/fitted/balanced/disposal fee)? Where did you get them?

The on-line retailer I checked is quoting $175.

I thought I'd done well paying $155 for Dunlop FastResponse tyres.

Yes, $115 per corner fitted, balanced etc.
It was from Tempe tyres in Sydney

I've decided to get the serenity plus tyres and will report back what I think of them.

After looking at all the tyre dates on my vehicles I was shocked to find out how old some of them are.
Not quite from the last century (like the ones on the Rada!) but ranging from 12 to 14 years old (all are BS B249).
Need more tyres and maybe a thread in the first gen section.

I just fitted Serenity Plus to my third gen (admittedly 17 inch though).

I wanted the Turanza ER300 like my 380, but they don't come in the size I need for the third gen. They are meant to be a similar touring type tyre, but perhaps a bit less grippy - more longevity based.

Initial impression is they are amazingly quiet (but then most tyres are when first fitted).

I had the ER300 as OEM fitment on a Mazda 3. I found them extremely grippy when new. Wet weather grip was phenomenal when new.
As they got older though grip became much worse and the road noise was so loud that I took the car to Mazda under warranty assuming something had gone wrong (wheels bearings possibly).
They assured me it was the tyres which I didn't really believe.
Anyway, when the PS3 Michellins went on the noise went away

Been a week on the serenity plus / verada ks and the supercat /magna TP (not 3rd gen of course!).
Whilst both tyre brands are in the "cheap" category (under $100) they still feel great compared to the old tyres.
Only driven them so far in dry and light rain conditions and were quiet and grippy then.
Time will tell how they fare in the long run.

The tire in the boot of my sigma was a never used olympic from 1981.
It looked good except for some micro crazing on the side walls near the rim (I forget to rotate!).
It was replaced by a good (more current!) tire that came of the Magna TP.

There have been some mentions of Bridgestone, but not of the following type:

http://www.stgeorgetyres.com.au/tyres/bridgestone-tyres-215-60-16-adrenalin-re002-new-tyres/product-detail.aspx

I am now the new owner of a TL awd with standard, but admittedly very used, Bridgestone Turanza's with which i am not overly impressed with after 2000 km of driving my new car.

When the tyres are in need of replacement(soon), I will probably go for the 002 Adrenalin, as I have the 001 version(205 60 15) on the front of my R31 Skyline, and were a good improvement over the Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval 205 60 15's they replaced.
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Another asymetric tyre to mention, which I am also considering, is:
Yokohama C Drive 2.



Leadfoot, those RE002 tyres may grip well but they aren't suited to these cars, in the sense that most people want a fairly silent tyre.
The C Drive 2 is a better option, but I believe that the Pirelli or Toyo Teo Plus may be a better option still.


I finally got my new tyres today and settled for the latest recently released Bridgestone Potenza 003's(not the earlier 002's which I was considering) in standard 215/60/16 95V size/load

https://www.bridgestonetyres.com.au/potenza-adrenalin-re003

which are most certainly a "sporty" (rather than a "touring") tyre.

I have only done 40km on them at highway speeds(+) and have so far found them to be no noisier or bumpier than the "touring" type Bridgestone Turanza Er30's that were on the car at purchase 5 months ago.

Although, my car has 160,000km on it now and needs new front/rear shocks so it doesn't ride like a new car any more.

Once I have put some more distance(and some challenging corners - like the bends south of Kiama) on these new tyres, I will post an update..... I want them to have some time to "bed in".

Purchased @ Bob Jane Nowra.

$129 each including fitting, balancing, dispose of old tyres....less $50 reduction special offer(ends today) so $466 all up for 4 new tyres.

They charge $66(reasonable price these days IMO) for a 4 wheel alignment but I skipped that for now.

I am still happy with my Bridgestone tyres and think they are good value for the money.

Are your tyres 15" or 16"?

I was pretty happy with the RE002s I had on my 380. Not quite as grippy as the Michelin Pilot Sport 3s I'm running now (and ran previously), but still excellent traction, and they were a little quieter too. Depending on pricing I'll probably go the RE003s when my current set of PS3s wear.

I know it's a little OT but has anyone tried / used those American "Cooper" tyres which, the manufacturers claim, last twice as long as any other tyre? I don't know how they can achieve that short of using really hard compound which would make handling and road noise a real issue.

AFAIK, and I haven't researched this, they claim to give extra life by having a deeper tread block(and probably a harder compound).

Once again, AFAIK, they don't make a purely passenger car type tyre - only for 4wd type vehicles(not a Magna AWD type).

Wet weather braking with my new Bridgestone Potenza RE003's has proven to be quite good.....above expectations.

They are still not what I consider to have enough distance on them yet for me to push them fully in the dry - I have done less than 200 km on them since fitting, but I am happy so far.

They ride quite well and are not noisy.

Not a hint of squeal in corners, nor any feeling of about to lose grip - but as noted I have not pushed them yet.

AFAIK, and I haven't researched this, they claim to give extra life by having a deeper tread block(and probably a harder compound).

Once again, AFAIK, they don't make a purely passenger car type tyre - only for 4wd type vehicles(not a Magna AWD type).

They do make passenger car tyres. I was quoted $125 a tyre, fitted, by a local supplier for my Magna. It's nice that a tyre would last much longer than the ordinary type BUT if they use hard compound then you trade that long wear for less grip and more noise.

Ive just had a look at their range.

What they make is at best - in the size/profile that might fit your Magna, is an SUV type tyre with some leaning towards "off road" capability.

They are not, as I suggested, purely passenger car tyres.

Just out of interest, what size/profile/specific model of Cooper tyre were you quoted on?

Ive just had a look at their range.

What they make is at best - in the size/profile that might fit your Magna, is an SUV type tyre with some leaning towards "off road" capability.

They are not, as I suggested, purely passenger car tyres.

Just out of interest, what size/profile/specific model of Cooper tyre were you quoted on?

They were a tyre made by Cooper Tyre but branded "Mastercraft"...MC440 was the code, if memory serves me correctly.

Leadfoot, those RE002 tyres may grip well but they aren't suited to these cars, in the sense that most people want a fairly silent tyre.
The C Drive 2 is a better option, but I believe that the Pirelli or Toyo Teo Plus may be a better option still.
It says the C Drive 2 is a step up from the A drives, but they better be a few steps up as I had the A drives and they were horrendous.

Cooper, at $50 more a corner you may be better off with the Serenity Plus.

I've also considered using 225/55/16 Michelin PS3 but the cost is getting up there as you'd need new wider wheels too.


Not really, i found out that the old owner put these on my mirage. They are a great tyre and may supercede to re003

Unfortunately to the op tyres are a can of worms. Ive used kumho ku39's and given them abuse on the street and track. They are a good budget tyre

They were a tyre made by Cooper Tyre but branded "Mastercraft"...MC440 was the code, if memory serves me correctly.

Hence I wouldn't have seen it on the Cooper webpage, or otherwise be aware of it as I only take interest in mainstream brands.

Now, Cooper is certainly a mainstream brand, but not for passenger car tyres.

Hi DeanoTS - Bridgestone Turanza ER30 215/60 16 95H were standard fitment on the AWD series of KJ veradas & I'm pretty sure the same tyre for the FWD KJ series also.
Not sure if they are still made, but given that they were the premium OEM tyre for the series, that would be a good place to start.

I went from ER30 to Pirelli P7 Cinturato that are 10X better.

How can you possibly quantify any standard size replacement tyre as "10X" better?

That's quite ridiculous and misleading unless, of course, you have some hard facts to back up your assertion.

I look forward to that.

I believe it takes a special kind of person to misinterpret figurative speech for literal speech.

Then why not try to use expressions such as " significant improvement", or "very happy with it" etc.

My approach when participating in technical forums such as we are involved with here, is to be as factual as possible, and dispense with the hyperbole.

At the time of writing I did not feel that there was any risk of someone misconstruing the post and being under the impression that there was any scientifically empirical or measurable basis to my suggestion that those particular tyres are exactly 10X better than the ER30 in quantifiable qualities that would be considered favourable.

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When deciding what tyres to go for my car I read a considerable amount of reviews:
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Pirelli/CINTURATO-P7.htm

They replaced my roughly 4 year old ER30 tyres that still had a few mm tread over the TWI.

The Pirellis did not seem any quieter, or smoother, but they seemed to ride a bit better. Dry weather grip was definitely better as the ER30s would slip frequently at higher speeds over bumps, and in the wet they would slip very easily.
I've not managed to get any slip from the Pirellis (not that I drive fast or anything), but these really inspire confidence in all driving conditions.
With the ER30s I felt they were bordering on almost being unsafe, whereas the Pirellis I have no concerns with driving highway speeds with pouring rain.
Additionally at $115 per tyre balanced and fitted they were excellent value. The PS3 Michelin I believe would be a better option but the closest size was 225.55.16 and was about $60 more per corner.

Where are you located?
I can't say my interest in which tyres are better is especially high, however during a cruise meet up I would be up for making direct comparisons.

Another bun fight over "nothing".


The "" surrounding the 10X, denotes its not to be taken literally or empirically.
It does denote a personal experience of, indicatively being "much better" compared to some previous arrangement.
Take it in that context and then modulate it with your own circumstances.

That's much more in keeping with the sort of posts that are informative and beneficial on an automotive forum.

I am experiencing similar with my new Bridgestones.

My interest goes back a long way to the time when I got my first car and participated in club level motor sport in the early 1980's and then to my first selling job in the early 1990's selling wheels and tyres, to selling cars full time from 1996.

I am always interested in them.

Cruise meet up?

Sure.

Another bun fight over "nothing".


The "" surrounding the 10X, denotes its not to be taken literally or empirically.
It does denote a personal experience of, indicatively being "much better" compared to some previous arrangement.
Take it in that context and then modulate it with your own circumstances.

I'm just wondering, are there any 16" tyres that you have recently purchased that you have some feedback on or are considering buying?

Even though I have purchased mine so I won't be in the market for another few years at the earliest, other members might benefit from any relevant, accurate, on topic experiences that you can share.

My interest in this thread was, initially, to help me make the best possible decision, but after that, making sure others will be able to do the same.

I'm sure that is a good enough reason for my calling for accuracy and objectivity in an area that can be confusing due to conflicting and largely subjective information - or having that information scattered about over too numerous threads when it should be concentrated in the one place.

Please don't slag me off for aiming high.

@ leadfoot6

My comment wasn't focused on your desire for more informative responses about 16" tyre opinions.
Nothing wrong with that desire, or aiming high, at all. But you can ask for that with a modicum of manners.

My comment was simply about your misguided interpretation and the subsequent slightly negative interaction.
IMHO that sets a tone that devalues the effort to provide well meant input and is simply unnecessary.

Not all people take that kind of response as well as the gentleman above.
So maybe respond with "thanks" instead of "that's better".

We shall now resume normal transmission.

I used to run the old ER30's @ 38psi front/36psi rear.

Currently the new Bridgestones are @ 36psi all round.

Low speed single lane roundabout tried now 3 times - old max. speed on exit 45km/h.....new max. 50 km/h without a hint of squeal or understeer.

There is high guttering on the exit so that will do for now.

Low speed open 90deg left hand corner tried 2 times - old max. 50km/h.....new max. 60km/h again without squeal or understeer.

I expect these to increase a little bit more once I put the front pressure up to 38psi.

Higher speed feedback will have to wait for another day until I need to go along my "normal" favourite bit of twisty road when I travel to Sydney (possibly)tomorrow.

Combined with my earlier wet braking tests(post #50), I am quite happy overall.

Are they a "massive" improvement over the old tyres?

No - certainly not, but I never expected them to be and I would not want to suggest otherwise.

But they are confidence building.

It's making me more eager to get rid of the worn out old shocks and get the replacement Dobinsons/Sachs pronto.

38psi?
I am not sure if something is wrong with my suspension, but at 38psi the ride is overly stiff.
I run 34-35 at the front and about 3psi less at the back.
The Pirelli P7 Cintuarato seems to ride a bit better than the old ER30s they replaced

38" shouldn't cause any concern unless the roads are of unusually poor condition.

40" plus is OK but may lead to excess wear of the middle of the tyre tread and some lower resistance to aquaplaning in the wet.

It's not really worth it for the road.

But it's generally safe and quite OK to exceed the recommended pressures shown on the tyre placard.

When I used to compete in club level motor sport years ago we used to run anything up to 45 front/40 rear for a few quick laps and bounce over ripple strips happily.

Lower profile tyres(45/50/55) than what we are using(60) will become uncomfortable and very skittish at higher pressures.

I've had the new tyres on for just over 5 weeks now, with opportunities to do comparitive evaluations at higher speeds over the stretch of safe, winding, fully divided, completely unpopulated road that I normally use for such purposes.

@38/36psi f/r compared with the old Bridgestone ER30's usually at the same pressures and using "tippy" held 4th gear of 5.

At least 10 km/h faster than the old tyres through a sequence of bends connected by some straights formerly taken at 90 km/h max(obviously more on the straights).

Very happily taken at 100 and at one point I could hear the speed alert(normally set at 110) chime exiting one corner.

The same bends taken during rain are also about 10km/h above previous normal maximum speed that I was comfortable with.

That's about 10% or more improvement.

No squealing in the dry, and no hint of sliding in the wet - not at these speeds anyway.

I am now quite happy with these tyres - Bridgestone Adrenalin Potenza RE003 215/60/16, and look forward to fitting the new lowered Dobinson springs and Sachs shocks, which will give even greater confidence.

I just wish the standard alloys were 7" rather than 6".

There would/will be more improvement just there.

I think the tyres are grippy enough to benefit.

I'll have a look for these early next year.

I fitted the CJ Lancer 16" wheels which are 6.5" wide on my KJ2. They look really nice and suit the car in my opinion, also quite cheap and easy to find.
7" or even 8" would be nice. If I could find 16x8 wheels that fit and looked OEM I'd run 225/55/16 tyres

Would 16x8" clear without fouling?

Yep....... in an ideal world an off-set of about +38 would be just inside of the guards....... car would feel nicer cornering too with the wider track.
Could go as far as +35 but would need to run some - camber though to keep the top of the tyres inside .

I ran 17x8 35 offset no problems...see my avatar.....

I ran 17x8 35 offset no problems...see my avatar.....

Depends on tyres as well. I had 18x8 with 35+ and with 235/45 tyres, I had to get Murph06 here to do a die grind to bring in the camber.

The issue is finding 16X8 rims.
This size is usually for Euro cars and/or for those chasing "stance"
The Euro rims look nice but they are the wrong PCD

Yes, I think 8" might be "A Bridge Too Far".

'03 TJ AWD model - Mine are 18x8 +35 offest 245/40 18 no extra negative camber necessary, just squeezes under the front guards & plently of clearance under the rear guard but tires getting fairly close to the rear upper control arms.