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highlander2287
13-03-2015, 04:27 PM
Just after some thoughts from others. I've had my ralliart for about 6 months. The kms are at about 92600 so I was trying to wait until it reaches 100000kms to do the timing belt. However I keep wondering given the cars age now, should I be looking at changing the belt sooner rather than later, waiting to get to 100000kms.
Also given the reasonably low kms should I look at changing the water pump when I do the timing belt or could it wait until next change.
Any thoughts appreciated.
Wiggles
13-03-2015, 04:33 PM
Has it been done in the last 5 years? If not, do it.
Life on these are every 100k or 5 years
highlander2287
13-03-2015, 04:47 PM
I don't believe that it has been done in the last 5 years and there is no mention of it ever being done in the service book over the years.
ammerty
13-03-2015, 05:42 PM
Unless you had it done, you have documentation of it getting done, or know the person who did it, be wary.
I didn't have documentation of the 200k belt on my sedan, so I bit the bullet and did it. Though it eased a hole through my wallet, it did ease my mind.
PS Do the water pump. Its probably never been done, and at best 5 years old, and however old your car is at worst.
jimbo
13-03-2015, 10:26 PM
I'd also be doing the belt now. If you rack up the k's quick enough you could let the next change goto 200,000km for a nice round number, extra 8,000km won't matter. I ran mine for an extra 13,000km.
Personally I wouldn't bother changing the water pump, seals or idler bearings unless they show signs of wear or leaking. Mine at 200,000km seemed fine, however I changed them anyway as I already had new ones. Just changing the belt is a lot cheaper and should get you through to 200,000km, then do the whole lot.
Millenium7
13-03-2015, 10:31 PM
Why do water pumps get replaced so often? I've never heard of replacing a water pump on a motorbike. Then again they also have these amazing things called timing chains which don't flex when you turn the engine over the wrong way and completely ruin your weekend by skipping a few teeth...
jdisnow
14-03-2015, 06:01 AM
Why do water pumps get replaced so often? I've never heard of replacing a water pump on a motorbike. Then again they also have these amazing things called timing chains which don't flex when you turn the engine over the wrong way and completely ruin your weekend by skipping a few teeth...
Answer is not that the water pumps are bad per say.....its just that the water pump lives under the timing belt...so it is easier to replace whilst the timing belt is being changed, as it will save you plenty bucks compared to having to pay to replace the pump when (if) it fails...because if it fails, you have to take off the timing belt to get to it...
DeanoTS
14-03-2015, 06:04 AM
Why do water pumps get replaced so often? I've never heard of replacing a water pump on a motorbike. Then again they also have these amazing things called timing chains which don't flex when you turn the engine over the wrong way and completely ruin your weekend by skipping a few teeth...
Water pumps only need to be changed every 200,000 k's, or every second timing belt change, I had a new one fitted to my KH at 200,000 service the old one was fine though, it may have lasted a lot longer. 6 years ago I had just the belt changed in my old KR Verada at 220,000 3 months later the water pump failed, I was able to do the work myself though, be expensive for someone that couldn't do the work themselves, that's why the water pump is recommended to be changed every 200,000 k's when the timing belt is replaced.
KWAWD
14-03-2015, 07:25 AM
<snip> seals or idler bearings unless they show signs of wear or leaking. Mine at 200,000km seemed fine, however I changed them anyway <snip>
Jimbo, help me to understand which seals you're talking about, do you mean the two crankshaft seals? Or just the front one? Or are you speaking of cam shaft, or even tube seals?
jimbo
14-03-2015, 08:16 AM
Jimbo, help me to understand which seals you're talking about, do you mean the two crankshaft seals? Or just the front one? Or are you speaking of cam shaft, or even tube seals?
The 2 camshaft oils seals and the front crankshaft oil seal. Mine were still soft at 12yrs/200k old, the way they fail is either by the rubber tearing or going hard.
KWAWD
14-03-2015, 10:14 AM
The 2 camshaft oils seals and the front crankshaft oil seal. Mine were still soft at 12yrs/200k old, the way they fail is either by the rubber tearing or going hard.
Thanks, the KH is due for 2nd belt and I want to do anything else relevant as its at 235k's now.
So water pump and crankshaft seal. Didnt know about the camshaft seals. Rocker covers will be done at the same tiime and injector seals. The idler bearing (harmonic balancer?) was already done a little while ago, plugs, belt tensioner.
All more than the cars worth of course but I'm still using it and its gotta be reliable.
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