View Full Version : TF Wagon Rear Shocks, Springs, Isolators.
alchemysa
22-03-2015, 03:51 PM
I've ordered a couple of new rear shocks for my TF wagon. While I'm at it I thought I would replace the coil spring isolators (sometimes called insulators or seats). Mine look hard and squashed.
Has anyone done this on a wagon and found if it made much difference? Where did you get the isolators from?
I've measured up and it looks like these are pretty close. I'm thinking of giving them a go.
UNIVERSAL BLACK COIL SPRING ISOLATORS 2 3/4" ID / 4 9/16" OD
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/UNIVERSAL-BLACK-COIL-SPRING-ISOLATORS-2-3-4-ID-4-9-16-OD-9-6104G-/171511942119?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item27eee88be7
(This is the manufacturers site
http://energysuspension.com/universal-products/shock-boots-coil-spring-isolators.html)
alchemysa
23-03-2015, 02:14 PM
Well I've ordered the isolators above. Shall let you know if they fit.
Well I've ordered the isolators above. Shall let you know if they fit.
Looks good. They should be really easy to do and you shouldn't have any issues. All you really have to do is jack it up on both sides, support it on stands and the rear drops down making things easy to access and remove/replace.
alchemysa
23-03-2015, 05:21 PM
Looks good. They should be really easy to do and you shouldn't have any issues. All you really have to do is jack it up on both sides, support it on stands and the rear drops down making things easy to access and remove/replace.
Its hard to measure the size of the isolators while they are still on the car but I've measured as best as I can and am crossing my fingers.
You can see dimensions for the new isolators here...
Its Style A. Number 9.6104
http://energysuspension.com/universal-products/shock-boots-coil-spring-isolators.html
The critical dimensions are 'B' (the Lip Outside diameter) and 'C' (the Outside diameter). The Lip diameter looks OK. I measured about 3 inches while the new isolator is apparently 3 1/16". Hopefully thats close enough. My Outside diameter looks to be about 5 inches but the new isolator is only 4 9/16". I'm hoping the difference is because the old one is squashed and stretched out.
itsfootball
27-03-2015, 09:30 AM
I now know why mine TF sound so wrong on the rear, the job sound simple enough, what brand shocks did you use?
Its hard to measure the size of the isolators while they are still on the car but I've measured as best as I can and am crossing my fingers.
You can see dimensions for the new isolators here...
Its Style A. Number 9.6104
http://energysuspension.com/universal-products/shock-boots-coil-spring-isolators.html
The critical dimensions are 'B' (the Lip Outside diameter) and 'C' (the Outside diameter). The Lip diameter looks OK. I measured about 3 inches while the new isolator is apparently 3 1/16". Hopefully thats close enough. My Outside diameter looks to be about 5 inches but the new isolator is only 4 9/16". I'm hoping the difference is because the old one is squashed and stretched out.
Any word on these yet? I would be keen to get some for my wagon when I have it on the road.
barryb
27-03-2015, 11:24 AM
I replaced rear springs and shocks on my TL wagon a few months ago. Isolators looked fine so I re used them. Pretty easy job
alchemysa
28-03-2015, 03:03 PM
Any word on these yet? I would be keen to get some for my wagon when I have it on the road.
Isolators and shocks arrived yesterday. Havent had a chance to fit them yet. Hopefully I will get some time later this week.
alchemysa
09-04-2015, 03:53 PM
Any word on these yet? I would be keen to get some for my wagon when I have it on the road.
I finallly got around to fitting the new shockers and the isolators. (I took pics but can't post attachments unfortunately). The new isolators were completely unsuitable as replacements for the original isolators but because I had them, and the springs were out, I decided to fit them on top of the existing isolators. I figured an extra 1 cm of rubber couldn't be a bad thing. (The old isolators were probably half their original thickness). So I cut the lip off the new isolators and cable tied them firmly to the old ones. The cable ties won't last long but they held the assembly together while I was reinstalling.
I've only done a few short runs so far but it seems to have taken some shock out of the rear end. Previously when I hit a sharp bump in the road the jolt was almost painful. I think they will stay in place but only time will tell if this is a good or bad idea.
I did replace the shockers at the same time too, but suspect they didn't contribute much to quietening down the back end. And, by the way, I have a pit in the garage. Replacing the shocks without a pit or ramps would be a real pain. The top bolt on the wagon shockers is quite hard to get at.
bb61266
09-04-2015, 05:43 PM
I did replace the shockers at the same time too, but suspect they didn't contribute much to quietening down the back end. And, by the way, I have a pit in the garage. Replacing the shocks without a pit or ramps would be a real pain. The top bolt on the wagon shockers is quite hard to get at.
Well Shocks are actually called "dampers" by the suspension people so the new ones should have helped "damp" the hard crash over bumps so some % to the new "Shockers"
I didn't find the top bolt too hard to get at on a flat floor with a jack - but then again I probably got a great bent, modified and weird set of spanners and ratchet drives as my other car is a V12 XJ-S and *Everything* is hard to get to :-)
I actually had the most problem in that the replacement Gas Shocks expanded a bit to far to get the bottom bolt back in - had to use a bottle jack to compress it, and because of the slight angle it kept jumping off the head of the jack.
alchemysa
09-04-2015, 07:49 PM
I finallly got around to fitting the new shockers and the isolators. ...(I took pics but can't post attachments unfortunately).......
Anyone know why I cant post pics? Can only donating members post pics?
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