I was looking forward to reading about the new Triton, and saw the specs online today.

In a word - disappointed.

Things I noticed:
- still only a 5 speed auto. Competitors have had auto sixes for ages.
- Mitsubishi Super Select 4wd. Is this thing still not dead, it's been in pajeros for 24 years (only difference between the original from 1991 and now is the torque split front/rear.
- only available in 2.4. The 3.2 has not made a reappearance. Competitors generally offer a 3.0 minimum diesel. I'd hate to tow with 3.1 tonne on the back using a 2.4. It's gutsy for a 2.4 at 133kw/430nm, but not enough IMHO
- looks - mild styling change at the front, still miles behind most competitors
- drum rear brakes? Really?

About time Mitsubishi started getting with the times.

I for one will be looking elsewhere, which as a Mitsubishi fan for twenty years, makes me a bit sad!

About time Mitsubishi started getting with the times.

I for one will be looking elsewhere, which as a Mitsubishi fan for twenty years, makes me a bit sad!

Saddly but true Mitsubishi seams to be leaking behind although having some cool looking concept designs.... it seams that they are not managing to get them in production lines!!

Show me a ute that doesn't have rear drums? They all do ffs

Show me a ute that doesn't have rear drums? They all do ffs

Let them be the first to put rear calipers then they will be shot down for being an overly costly ute compared to the rest, hehe

Considering a new 7seater outlander over the rest. Not much out there apart from mid 2000's range rovers for the 7 seater-ness and space. Mitsubishi do have good cars out there, if you compare apples with apples, not pears and apples. You also have to compare build quality.

Someone suggested a captiva to me and I laughed myself on to the floor. lol

Show me a ute that doesn't have rear drums? They all do ffs

So just because everyone else does it, Mitsubishi shouldn't bother either? What a stupid argument.

Disc brakes are far better in nearly every way.

Drums only hold an advantage in that:
- it's easier to engineer a powerful hand brake to drums (but it can be done in discs too)
- price.

Obviously Mitsubishi think because everyone else has cheaped out on rear brakes, they might as well too.

How about being innovative and engineering better solutions.

And before anyone jumps in with "drums better for heavy cars" or "drums better for water crossing", why do Pajeros and all other big heavy 4x4 have discs all round? I'll tell you why, because those arguments are false, and disc brakes are much, much better - on and off road.

I'll be interested in the longevity of the engine and particularly the turbo for such a small displacement to be pumping out those torque figures.

Put in the 3.2 DiD, a six to eight speed auto, disc brakes all around... Then they'd have a serious contender (and my money).

what i was getting at was exactly what you have said..


And before anyone jumps in with "drums better for heavy cars" or "drums better for water crossing", why do Pajeros and all other big heavy 4x4 have discs all round? I'll tell you why, because those arguments are false, and disc brakes are much, much better - on and off road.

.i find it absolutely incredible that these Utes do not have disc rear end ..like you pointed out ,,all other 4wd drives have them

what i was getting at was exactly what you have said..

Sorry Maggie, I read your post incorrectly. I thought the FFS was directed at me, but now I see it was directed at ute manufacturers in general.


Someone suggested a captiva to me and I laughed myself on to the floor.

My uncle just had $3800 of work done to replace defective top end in his Captiva, something to do with the camshafts which is common and known fault on the Daewoo engines. Was a few weeks out of warranty. Had done less than 100,000km and is in mint condition, and they refused a warranty or good will repair. He will never buy Holden again. Edit: not Isuzu, but Daewoo. I should have known because Isuzu have been making diesels (and lots of them, in truck applications) longer than I've been born.

It's a real shame Mitsi's 10 year drivetrain warranty seems to have disappeared. Was such a selling point for me in the past.

My uncle just had $3800 of work done to replace defective top end in his Captiva, something to do with the camshafts which is common and known fault on the (from memory but can't be sure) Isuzu engines.

VM Motori, produced by GM Daewoo.

It's a real shame Mitsi's 10 year drivetrain warranty seems to have disappeared. Was such a selling point for me in the past.

Yeah tell me about it, that's a real shame

Triton is meant to be a workhorse, not a fashion statement. As long as it is reliable and good on juice, cosmetics or rear brake type don't come into it.

complaining about stupid things like drum brakes, really? Triton was always and is one thing, cheap and reliable workhorse. In terms of what you get per $ spent nothing comes close (and dont look at recommended retail prices, Mitsubishi always heavily discounts). Why drums, well errrrrr because they are cheaper and still provide adequate braking power. There are plenty of better equipped Utes for sale out there, like new Navara will have coil springs instead of leaf suspension at the back not to mention 6 speed auto and a choice of a bigger engine, however as all better things it comes with..... you guessed it with heftier price tag!

Triton is affordable (i own 2) and thats why it is selling so well, im sorry but it is completely unreasonable to expect class leading features from a car which costs ......less

Good thing is, if you buy one today, in ten years time, it will still look like the current model!

The thing that I find most satisfying with Mitsi is that they can be had for a good price when comparing them to other alternatives...if you want high tech, then you can easily find other alternatives...but for a cheap everyday car, "Its-a-Mitsi" suits me just fine.

The Triton appeals to tradies who will hang on to them for 5 years before buying new again under lease agreements. What do they care if it has disk or drum brakes, or 5 speed, or old technology or a basic sound system, or looks like the model from 10 years ago etc...

People are making the mistake of believing the only people buying utes are tradies or farmers or people in some sort of commercial arrangement.

Have a look at the utes on our roads. They aren't all being driven by tradies. A very large percentage (especially dual cab) are being driven by families with kid seats. Economical diesel around town, plenty of room for kids and all the weekend bikes and camping gear, and can tow a boat or trailer/camper if required.

To argue that the market is only people who want a ute for plumbing is ignoring every second ute that goes by.

and whats your point? What exactly out of the things you listed Triton cant do? Again it not supposed to be a class leading car and it NEVER WAS so lack of disk brakes, 5 speed auto and smaller engine is obviously not a deal breaker for most buyers. The car is cheap and practical, want something better, there are plenty to choose from for the extra $$$.

Also in my opinion a lot of utes are driven by tradies or at very least by businesses one way or another associated with construction or manufacturing.

Flyboy, if you were shopping for a new Triton, what exactly were you intending to use it for? How would its use differ from a regular non-ute 4x4?

I imagine a lot of Tritons are bought as business vehicles to haul stuff, for the tax advantages if you run a business, but get used as the family transport a lot of the time.

Maybe its time for us to compare the pair. Full details analysis coming soon™.

"Lifestyle Utes" (Maloos and FPV Pursuits etc) Versus "Work Horses", Tritons, Hi-Lux etc...

"Lifestyle Utes" (Maloos and FPV Pursuits etc) Versus "Work Horses", Tritons, Hi-Lux etc...

Yea utes that are used to carry your screw drivers around in don't count.

i don't really like the new styling on the front, however having read the release brochure this model brings chassis changes and new equipment for it off the top of my head

2015 triton or 2016 triton review

http://www.caradvice.com.au/mitsubishi/triton/

then looks like we have to wait for the rest of the competition later this year


Never before have so many top-selling ute replacements arrived so close to each other. The all-new Nissan Navara is due next month, followed by updated versions of the Ford Ranger and Mazda BT-50 in July and then, in October, the big gun arrives, the first all-new Toyota HiLux in 10 years, the successor to Australia’s top-selling workhorse for more than three decades.

source http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-reviews/2015-mitsubishi-triton-review-first-drive-32156#.VV8Dp7mqqko

Triton is following latest trends in engine sizing for utilities . Old 3.2 TD was118/347 and new 2.4 is 133/430 .New NP300 Navara is 2.3 4cyl , new Hilux is 2.8 ,Amarok is 2.0 and Triton 2.4. They are all downsizing engine sizes. There is no larger engine option for Navara , also Navara is 7 speed auto and some lower models are leaf rear end while higher models are coil rear end. Ranger and BT50 are still 3.2 5 cyl but when you look at the numbers 147/470 is not that much better output for the size of the engine.
These vehicles are focused on low down torque for off road and towing drivability rather than outright peak numbers.
If you want power and torque get now superseded D40 Navara 550 -V6TD 170kW /550 Nm with 7 speed auto ,that's what I did. Unfortunately this engine does not pass future emission laws and won't be offered in new Navara.

Don't like the new Triton?

But a Hilux ;)

Don't like the new Triton?

But a Hilux ;)

4wd utes run drum rears for a variety of reasons. Firstly, they are cheap, and many Asian countries require commercial vehicles to have drum brakes by law. Also, drums work better with a weight proportioning valve. In simple terms, drums cope better with varying load weights. In an suv bodied 4wd, the weight is more or less evenly distributed throughout the cabin, whereas a Ute can have no weight in the tray one minute, and 600kg the next, changing the weight distribution quite noticeably. A proportioning valve senses this change, and modifies the brake bias to ensure safe and even braking. Drums are more progressive than discs when heavily loaded, and also require less force to operate.