hi all my 99 th solara wagon at 655,000kms is still going strong with no signs of slowing down " touch wood " however iv been having a constant problem with my dizzy slowly leaking oil where the dizzy end meets up with the engine, i have replaced the o ring several times and even bought a new dizzy cleaning both surfaces up on the engine and the dizzy each time, i have even put a small amount of create your own gasket goo on it which worked for a few months till it went dry and brittle and out come oil again, any help would be great

What o ring are you using? Might also be a case of pinching the seal upon installation?

i have the part number its MD619990 fits snug on the dizzy iv probably gone through 4 of these in my attempt to fix it

I haven't had the pleasure of removing/installing a Magna dizzy yet so I am not speaking from experience and just offering a suggestion, but what about a small wrap of teflon white plumbers thread sealing tape around the engine side of the o ring.

Of course, you would need to be careful with the number of turns of tape, otherwise it will "catch" when pushing the dizzy in, but if pulled tight enough, it might just "bulk up" the diameter of the distributor shaft.

Good suggestion from leadfoot. I would go a little further in putting a couple of wraps on the O-ring itself then a liberal wipe of "Inoxa" grease over all. Inoxa is a heavy duty no-melt grease and as the parts you are putting it on are not moving parts except when installing, this job should last the life of the car. Or distributor, whichever dies first.

I just lost my post but my suggestion would be to get a tube of "INOXA" grease. This is a "no melt" high temp grease that just sits there and seeing that the parts you would be putting it on are non moving parts there is no reason that it would move so between it and the new seal you would be fitting, engine oil would have a hard time getting past. Hah! there's my other post, ^^^. It appeared when I clicked "save". Ah well, mods will be on me for trying to build my post numbers up. 112 in 8 years? Maybe not so much.
Is 72 "old fart"?
I just remembered, Plumbers tape hates oil. Does not work very well in a hot oil environment. Kind of unravels itself. Ah well, the INOXA is a non melting, non flowing grease so wipe a bit on the dizzy shaft and in the tunnel it goes in plus a bit on the seal and the dizzy housing shaft so you get a bit of a build up on the engine side of the seal. Hopefully you will have no further oil leak worries.

put a good smear of permaseal around the O`ring put the dizzy in and let it sit for a couple of hours, but only if you have a bad sore mark on the recess side where the O`ring goes in to. if its a case where your trying to install the dizzy with a dry O`ring then use rubber grease

thanks for all your help ill will be giving each of your methods a go, is there a seal inside the shaft of the engine where the dizzy goes in, cause everytime i pull it out a small gush of oil pours out with it, kinda like pulling the plug out of bathtub an

What condition are the o-rings each time you get them out? Any signs of damage?

no damage and not dry, just like there fresh out of the packet except for oil over them

I would be double checking that you are being supplied the correct 'O' ring. Water transfer pipe 'O' ring is a similar (if not identical) diameter but the 'O' ring thickness is a lot smaller and probably wouldn't seal properly. It may also be made of material not suitable for oil contact.

My dizzy was leaking ever so slightly that I only found out after the car was on a hoist and a mechanic told me.
I ended up changing it DIY with a new OEM o-ring, and now it leaks so much that oils get onto the exhaust and smells.
I don't know if the installation is incorrect or what the matter is

yeah i have that problem aswell the oil drips on to the exhaust and creates smoke, at one point i thought the engine was on fire lol

I did my o ring as well, o ring was brittle. I found the groove where the o ring sat had heaps of carbon build up as well, took a bit to clean out.

Is there a way of blocking off the dizzy hole and installing coil packs possibly of a pajero to never worry about an oil leak from there again

Is there a way of blocking off the dizzy hole and installing coil packs possibly of a pajero to never worry about an oil leak from there again
Not without modification of the ECU code or being able to use an alternate ECU.

no damage and not dry, just like there fresh out of the packet except for oil over them

If you take one of the original O rings to a specialist shop that does bearings/seals etc they will be able to measure it and find a very slightly larger O ring - like a gnats whatsit bigger - which might be enough to cure whatever weird tolerance problem you have.

If you take one of the original O rings to a specialist shop that does bearings/seals etc they will be able to measure it and find a very slightly larger O ring - like a gnats whatsit bigger - which might be enough to cure whatever weird tolerance problem you have.

Just be aware that more & more Bearing/Engineering shops have either a minimum charge like $20 or otherwise you have to buy pack quantities. That's the way it is for most of them around my neck of the woods including my work place.

Just be aware that more & more Bearing/Engineering shops have either a minimum charge like $20

I think $20 is entirely reasonable for their knowledge and time, and if the leak is fixed - what's that credit card ad? Priceless.....

lol!! Good to see you appreciate that it's not just the part but the service & covering costs to stay in business.
You wouldn't believe some of the wambulances that some people have chucked @ my work because they are expecting to pay 12c for one small part without giving a thought to the fact that a business just cannot survive these days on those types of sales.

lol!! Good to see you appreciate that it's not just the part but the service & covering costs to stay in business.

Have had my own computer business for 20 years, people wonder why a 5 minute fix costs $50 - they don't appreciate the 5 hours of research or learning to FIND the fix.

Have had my own computer business for 20 years, people wonder why a 5 minute fix costs $50 - they don't appreciate the 5 hours of research or learning to FIND the fix.

Not meaning to be rude or anything, but seeing as people would take their laptop to a "professional" isn't it assumed that they should have knowledge on the matter and hence should not be expected to pay for your learnings?
For example, would it be reasonable to take your car to a mechanic, an apprentice works on it and takes 5 hours for what a qualified mechanic would have taken 2 hours to do, and then be charged for 5 hours worth of labour?

Again, I am not being meaning to be rude, just curious on your perspective.

Not meaning to be rude or anything, but seeing as people would take their laptop to a "professional" isn't it assumed that they should have knowledge on the matter and hence should not be expected to pay for your learnings?

Yep bet that analysis is pretty much what pisses every good mechanic off too, many if not not all hard to fix problems aren't in a book you can read, you get the fixes with experience, spending your down time reading and googling, and putting 2 and 2 together to fix an obscure problem.

So yes I have no problem charging $50 to dispense a fix that cost me $500 or more to find, invent or discover, you can always defer to take your computer the the man next door who knows a bit about computers - they have made me much more then $50 a call over the years as you have to fix their fixes before addressing the original problem.

Not meaning to be rude or anything, but seeing as people would take their laptop to a "professional" isn't it assumed that they should have knowledge on the matter and hence should not be expected to pay for your learnings?
For example, would it be reasonable to take your car to a mechanic, an apprentice works on it and takes 5 hours for what a qualified mechanic would have taken 2 hours to do, and then be charged for 5 hours worth of labour?

Again, I am not being meaning to be rude, just curious on your perspective.

I certainly would pay for their 'learnings' because that is the exact knowledge which makes them a professional. The level of knoweldge will determine their hourly rate. Using the example of an apprentice and mechanic, the apprentice rate would be much lower so that 5 hours of an apprentice time is about the same price (or perhaps less) as 2 hours of a qualified mechanic. Of course, I wouldn't be happy being charged a full mechanics rate for 5 hours of an apprentice labour...

You go to a professional/specialist - you pay the the money that is due to a professional to provide the part & service/solution. Business 101 - otherwise known as fair exchange.

Part of my work involves trade counter work.
Almost always, the biggest time wasters are the ones that don't have a trade account & want to be finnicky over one or a few small units, try to send us back & forth to the stock shelves multiple times in an attempt to provide the most exact matching item(s) we have available all the while rattling some silver coins hoping we'll either give them trade price or be "good sports" & just give them the item(s) at no charge.

That is why we instituted a minimum service fee at my place of work, to deal specifically with "these" sorts of transactions.

Part of my work involves trade counter work.

That is why we instituted a minimum service fee at my place of work, to deal specifically with "these" sorts of transactions.

You poor bastard..... The Minimum service fee aka D*&k Head Tax?

U2 sound like a pair of pious twirps, imo. What's the purposae of this whinge fest? Drive the less monied customers off? If your businesses rise or fall based on the presence or absence of nuisance customers you've got a problem that has nothing to do with them. Neither of you will assauge your concerns with this type of behaviour.

Why don't you work out a sign that clearly, politely explains this? Have your counter staff learn where this sign is and what it means and learn polite timely means to communicate that to prospective customers. Your business is under no obligation to serve anyone.

What about buying some proper diagnostic equipment so you can turn many of these hours long explorations into quick fixes and then charge accordingly? Have a base charge. When I was fixing computers I had a basic charge whether I fixed or not. At that time I kept it to 35$ and let it slide for pensioners. No-one complained.

You poor bastard..... The Minimum service fee aka D*&k Head Tax?

LoL!! I wouln't go "that" far bb61266.

I'd say these days, 8/10 are fine with the minimum service fee & are understanding when we explain the reasons to them. The other 2/10 we generally just recommend another business that would be better suited to service their needs.
Actually, I was one of the people opposed to the concept at first, as I saw it as another stressor (as much as I found spending too much time with small orders frustrating, by the same token I didn't like letting a customer down either). But now I see how clearly obvious the benefits have been.

ts370000 your adhominem is presumptuous & unnecessary.

For your information we do have signage and all staff are well versed with what to say to & how to deal with small order requests.

I've worked in my Dad's computer business also & believe me there is little comparison between that & a lean & busy trade counter/warehouse operations.

" presumptuous & unnecessary. " - perhaps I was reading too much into the exchange. If so, that is a good answer. Thank you.

But now I see how clearly obvious the benefits have been.

We have for years operated on the - we expect it will cost $X we will call you if it is going to be more, as often you think you need to fix a known problem, but it ends up being something completely different. In many cases we wear the cost if it is only a bit over the time or parts $ estimated. Seems to keep most people happy, we have a few 3rd generation customers now.