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freshi
06-09-2015, 11:34 PM
Hi all, dba have stopped making performance brake rotors for the 380.

Your only option is the T2 front slotted with a 1-3week wait. And they will soon stop doing them too (they no longer have any performance rotors in stock for the 380)

They said there was not enough demand for this car and they will eventually stop producing the standard rotors (seems like they are waiting to get rid of the dead stock).

Anyone who knows about brake discs and this car know that the standard rotors for performance braking view on these cars warp! (yes even the t2's warp becuase its the same standard metal)

If you want good rotors you need the heavy duty 4000 series which gives you a much better brake bite because it is a stronger metal and the discs tend to last longer and take a shit load more abuse. (at least from my experience)



Anyways ive spoken to DBA and they have said if i could place an order for 50+ Rotors of the Heavy Duty Series T3 Slotteds they would consider to make a batch. In other words we need a group buy of 25 sets of heavy duty series T3 slotted rotors.


Im not saying lets buy right now, but i want to know if people actully want these rotors and would be willing to put money down!


RDA rotors are fair weaker than dba 4000 series, and there is nothing else unless you plan on spending $2000 for a front brake package from k sport...





Please let me know


Thanks

zilo
07-09-2015, 05:32 AM
I wouldn't do the K Sport again, straight to Brembo in my opinion.

Andrew16
07-09-2015, 05:36 AM
Thats bad news I would be interested but I think we may struggle to get 25 pretty quiet in here
Do they have any stock

colinm1
07-09-2015, 08:26 AM
any idea on $$

Madmagna
07-09-2015, 04:40 PM
Just a couple of notes

Please run ANY group buys though Admins before posting them

Secondly, the comment about RDA being weaker, this is the first I have heard of this anywhere and I sell a LOT of brakes. Yes, a standard RDA, DBA, Protex rotor is not made from the same material as the top end DBA or RDA for that matter but then again they are not bad either.

Also if you want more Bite, you want SOFTER not harder rotors, why do you think that BMW, Volvo, Audi, Mercedes etc etc use such soft materials in the rotors. BECAUSE THEY WORK. Yes, they wear fast, usually 1 set of brake pads but the brakes are great from the showroom floor

What you want is an oxymoron, you want a brake rotor that will brake well, bite well but lasts for ever. No such thing. Is like saying I want 1000 hp with the economy of a Prius. Does not exist in the real world.

As for warping, there are many reasons that rotors warp, I have customers with 380 brakes on Magna's who drive them like hell and also customers with std rotors on 380's who drive them like hell and they dont warp, why, BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO DRIVE!!!

Be it uneven wheel torque, getting rotors red hot and then stopping for them to cool down or what ever, not always is warping due to the rotors.

As for K Sport, I would not bother at all, if I was going to anything I would go Evo X brakes and that is about it IF I was not keeping standard.

freshi
07-09-2015, 11:44 PM
This aint a group buy yet, just trying to see if ppl will be down for this order. If time comes I will run by admin

I dont mean to diss RDA, how ever the RDA and DBA T2's warp under track conditions. This is from my experience (less than 2 laps). The T3 Heavy Duty Series have not warped after 10-12track days, qfm ar1m track pads and castrol srf brake fluid, they are much stronger and longer lasting, they have worn out on me to min disc thickness.

Anyways I know how to drive, no one in this forum has gotten their brakes to catch fire unlike me.

Anwyays the T3 Heavy Duty Series will pay it self off in the long run vs RDA and DBA T2. End of story. I know this from fact and experience. So if you can have a better performing rotor and save you money in the long run wouldnt you go for it?


Im not gona argue over bmw and different brake metals etc etc....CBF. People can do their own re-search for this. But from my expeirence the T3 have a much better bite!



Price for the T3 will be $140-$190 per rotor, still not sure, I need a number to get back to DBA with for a price



As for K sport, yes its big bucks and probaly not worth it for these cars, I read somewhere on another forum one guy done the evo 10 brembo upgrade and said it was not much different from having slotteds, good pads, braided lines, and good brake fluid


Let me know people

Madmagna
08-09-2015, 06:30 AM
Sorry, you state you know how to drive and no one has been able to get their brakes to catch fire like you....excuse me while I get over these fits of laughter.

So you put your car on a track now and again, good on you. Does not make you an instant race car driver. Of course standard brakes will warp on a race track captain obvious.........

K Sport, yes I would be more than happy to pay thousands of $$ for BRAKES MADE IN CHINA (Oh ok, Taiwan, same thing)

You can not get a number for anything here either as there is no group buy at this stage, not until you PM me with details on how you intend to carry this out, protect members funds, distribute these, any profit being made etc etc

Sorry but facts are facts, you may want to read again your post above mate, knowing how to drive does not mean you have to know how to burn your brakes which for the record I have seen a few people do, those who only know that the brake pedal is for slowing down and dont know how to use gears (not that this would apply nearly as much on a track but is a fact)

Also trying to say that Evo X brakes are not any better than slotted, I think his brain is slotted and most likely cross drilled by the sounds of that. Slotted brakes do NOT give you better braking. Good clean rotors, good pads, decent fluid is a good step in that direction. Evo x are so much larger and using the right rotors and pads WILL give you better braking and for longer as well

zilo
08-09-2015, 07:47 AM
Freshi, sounds like you want the best?

There is always the best ever available on the 380 platform..

The Alcon brake option....available from Team Mitsubishi Racing as per the TMR380.

Nothing compares to these brakes, built for all day track work....sounds like what you need


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freshi
08-09-2015, 11:02 AM
Hahaha your such a douchbag. Boy!

Admin bagging out other members haha very professional ha!

No I'm not doing it for profit, purley doing it for the love of my car and others here

Have you even compared evo x and 380 front brake pad size? They are on par with each other....



Anyways


Again its not a group buy yet, when the time comes ill pm you, until then stop being a mr know it all because you dont.


Right now I just want too see if people want these rotors or not


This is my thread so if you got nothing positive to say, stay out of here

Red Valdez
08-09-2015, 07:10 PM
Not to be a debbie downer but I don't think there's even 25 regular 380 owners on the forums, yet alone 25 members who would warrant a set of high performance rotors.

There's definitely merit in an Evo upgrade simply because of the wider choice of pads and rotors you'd have available to you.

Andrew16
08-09-2015, 07:20 PM
Not to be a debbie downer but I don't think there's even 25 regular 380 owners on the forums, yet alone 25 members who would warrant a set of high performance rotors.

There's definitely merit in an Evo upgrade simply because of the wider choice of pads and rotors you'd have available to you.

I have to agree
Very very thin on the ground
I think the way 380 prices are now we may see more young go getters jumping into them

TreeAdeyMan
08-09-2015, 07:48 PM
Maybe I should have got a bit more for my old 380!
It had (still has?) the very last set of Australian made DBA 4000 slotted front rotors on it.

flyboy
08-09-2015, 08:10 PM
Forum (particularly the 380 section) seems to be dying a quick death. I wondered if anyone else had noticed.

Still a lot more activity in the third gen section, surely just due to the sheer volume of them that were made. I think less 380s, plus the fact that the 380 has been so damn reliable, means there's a lot less action in this forum.

I highly doubt any group buy would get up. The reality is that when it comes to brakes, the factory install are going to be more than enough for 99.9% of owners. How many 380 owners actually track their car? Probably could count on one hand.

freshi
09-09-2015, 02:05 AM
Cost for evo 10 dba front rotor starting at 180plus for the bottom line
Plus calipers 800used
Custom brake lines 100-300
Wheels to clear the calipers 800 plus and plus tyres


Its expensive for a marginal brake improvement


Good rotors pads lines and fluids do the trick


Most rally cars in group n run 2-4 piston calipers 99% of the time...rally cars are a shit load more precise than track monsters....track monster have many ways of covering up...ie big power, slick tyres, etc etc etc...as rally don't have much room for error


This is why the whole bigger is better is wrong. It comes down to balance


Imo and experice with these cars dba4000 series slottets, braided brake lines, castrol srf brake fluid, qfm hpx/ar1m pads are the best bang for buck, best overall useage, best practical, best suited, and best balance for these cars

maggie3.5
09-09-2015, 07:35 AM
Let's not forget that in the scheme of things, this is not just an interest to any 380 owner out there,but, let's think for a moment and consider how many 3rd gen Magna drivers have now converted to running 380 front brakes.
You want or need your numbers, start looking further than the 380 section and utilise the FB pages as well for interest.

Andrew16
09-09-2015, 04:23 PM
Forum (particularly the 380 section) seems to be dying a quick death. I wondered if anyone else had noticed.

Still a lot more activity in the third gen section, surely just due to the sheer volume of them that were made. I think less 380s, plus the fact that the 380 has been so damn reliable, means there's a lot less action in this forum.

I highly doubt any group buy would get up. The reality is that when it comes to brakes, the factory install are going to be more than enough for 99.9% of owners. How many 380 owners actually track their car? Probably could count on one hand.

Dont worry mate I will keep the 380 section going even if I have to make up a few new members and talk to myself actually I already talk to myself even converse you hear what you want to that way
I think the FB direction mybe a go
Who knows whats going to happen to the 380 section but I know you wont get the numbers here
Anyway its 630pm way past my bedtime and i have a serious lawn bowls comp on tommorrow
keep an eye out for me there will be a hat on the parcel shelf and I will be wearing a cardigan
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s311_bvm
09-09-2015, 07:13 PM
I hate to be the odd man out, however based on my experience I will never purchase the combination of DBA4000 disks and QFM pads again.

I purchased one of the last sets of Australian made DBA4000 disks and as stated paired them up with QFM HPX pads.

I was only able to get 34,000 out of the DBA4000 disks when I got over 115,000 out of the original factory disks and pads and only changed the OEM ones out as they were glazed but had a small amount of life left.

I have since replaced the DBA4000s with RDA Slotted Roters paired with RDA Extreme Pads. This combination in my experience in providing performance equal to the DBA4000, producing a lot less dust and with 41,000 km on them have lots of life left unlike the expired DBA4000s.

As an indication of use or abuse I didn’t change the factory rear pads until 185,000 and decided to match the front with a pair rear RDA Slotted Roters paired with RDA Extreme Pads. I kept the OEM disks as spare if I ever need them as they are still within tolerance.

The original thread from when I had the DBA4000 issue can be found at http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102729&highlight=