Hey guys, sorry about the wait but i finely got of my arse and done the cold air article
now im no god at making web pages so its a bit boring, so if iv missed anything
let me know, ill be updating bits of it though the week
ill also add a new thead in the for sale's shortly.

enjoy!!!!

http://members.dodo.net.au/~thsmoker/cai/diycai.html :D

I love the first item on the Parts list.
Good job.

That's great mate! Good work and thank you from all of AMC

Cool - but u missed the beer!!! :badgrin:

How much did it cost all up for the parts that you used etc?

Asside from taking up some of your own time for fitment it certainly looks to be a cheaper option than any kits from Performance Shops....

How much did it cost all up for the parts that you used etc?

Asside from taking up some of your own time for fitment it certainly looks to be a cheaper option than any kits from Performance Shops....

all up with out pod it cost me about $60

Nice going TH Smoker & thanks for sharing it with us. Might give this one a go & hopefully there is a noticable difference in power.

all up with out pod it cost me about $60
Thats a pretty steep profit margin there :confused:

well think about how much RPW makes.... still cheap!

THsmoker has to use his time to cut the materials to the right lengths and drive around and get all the parts and then package it up.... also to come up with the design in itself is worth a bit!

well think about how much RPW makes.... still cheap!

THsmoker has to use his time to cut the materials to the right lengths and drive around and get all the parts and then package it up.... also to come up with the design in itself is worth a bit!

Exactly he used his own time and money to find out what works, he did the hours trying to make it all fit up. I say his prices are fair, well done TH Smoker :D

Can this kit be used on a TJ ?

Can this kit be used on a TJ ?

no :P :bowrofl:

nice work mate i think i will spend a bit of time in next few weeks and wip one of those up

Hey Guys,
I can put my hand uop as the Hunter Valley rep for the TH Smoker branded DIY CAI kit. I have access to all parts including the rubber bends, mild steel piping, hose clamps AND a large range of zip ties. If u want one of these exclusive kits, Pm me and i will get a price for you. :)

Thanks everyone for your support

yep the setup will fit TJ

as for the price, im not realy in this for the money $60+ postage(about 10-$13) it cost me for the kits, thats why i wrote the article
find someone who will spend an hour cutting, polish, drill and paint your pipe with out dinting or scratching it for under $30!!!!

I know its a dunnydore, but i made one up for a mate's VX S/C V6
just thought id show, it does'nt look as good but

TH,

The big question for me is are these things legal?
Being in NSW and having to get a RWC every year means that if it's not legal + RWC then I just can't consider it.
Also if it's not legal then insurance becomes a pain.

Thanks mate,
-Dan

Thats a pretty steep profit margin there :confused:

Who cares? You're telling me he can't make a profit out of it? It's tons cheaper than the RPW one and it does the exact same job!

Hey guys, sorry about the wait but i finely got of my arse and done the cold air article
now im no god at making web pages so its a bit boring, so if iv missed anything
let me know, ill be updating bits of it though the week
ill also add a new thead in the for sale's shortly.

enjoy!!!!

http://members.dodo.net.au/~thsmoker/cai/diycai.html :D

do u think ducting hose will work better than pvc, i work in a hose company i sell alot of stock
with hoses and car belts and radiator hoses n ect i think i can make one with a bit better air flow and at whole sale price so if u want more help in this pm me ill help...

do u think ducting hose will work better than pvc, i work in a hose company i sell alot of stock
with hoses and car belts and radiator hoses n ect i think i can make one with a bit better air flow and at whole sale price so if u want more help in this pm me ill help...
What's it look like? Does it have a smooth surface on the inside?

in the winery that my step-dad works in they use this rubber piping ALL OVER THE WINERY that has a ribbed out side and in dead smooth inside. he's going to get me some thats 2.5" and about 5 meters. so i'm going to have a look at relocating my pod to the bumper.

apart from that it looks like you have a ripper of a kit there and all i can say is well done (and of course where is a version for the second gens??)

i'll second that, any signs of a kit for 2nd gens? I'm not too good with inventing things like this, it'd get pretty messy if i designed my own i reckon :P

Thats a pretty steep profit margin there :confused:Thats a pretty big whine there.....

At least he's put up a how to for those wishing to buy the stuff themselves... Instead of whining about it how bout you go out buy the stuff yourself and make it?

Good on you TH Smoker, a cheap alternative to the overpriced K&N Unit.

Thats a pretty big whine there.....

At least he's put up a how to for those wishing to buy the stuff themselves... Instead of whining about it how bout you go out buy the stuff yourself and make it?

Good on you TH Smoker, a cheap alternative to the overpriced K&N Unit.

Agreed, Ill be buying one in the next few weeks :)

i'll second that, any signs of a kit for 2nd gens? I'm not too good with inventing things like this, it'd get pretty messy if i designed my own i reckon :P


Yes a 2nd gen version is on the way

but im not sure how legal they are
i think its ok in vic

Yes a 2nd gen version is on the way

but im not sure how legal they are
i think its ok in vic
Don't care about the legality i'll get 1!!! u might have to cut a hole behind the headlight to make it fit but life is all about sacrifices, and would be good to find a spot to fit the bigger K&N pod

Well done THsmoker! Thanks for giving us all some ideas and inspiration. For the whingers - charge them $65 and give five bucks back to the club. Now you said earlier that it will fit a TJ. Do you know if there will be clearance issues on a TJ auto? I think I remember the RPW kit saying something like this.

Cheers

Self ported? :confused:

Self ported? :confused:

As in I ported it (machined it out) my self!

Well done THsmoker! Thanks for giving us all some ideas and inspiration. For the whingers - charge them $65 and give five bucks back to the club. Now you said earlier that it will fit a TJ. Do you know if there will be clearance issues on a TJ auto? I think I remember the RPW kit saying something like this.

Cheers

Well looking at my mums TJ VRX, should'nt be a problem at all.

Still dont know what you mean by self ported?
do you mean self ported T/B(hi-flow)?..............i done my t/b myself

self ported - referring to the throttle body.. maybe i should just remove that line in my sig.

And thanks for the info.. Spose I should get off my ass and take a look at my engine bay.


I assume someone has done this, though i will ask anyway - has anyone taken a trip to the local exhaust shop and tried to get them to bend up a Stainless Steel pipe to be used. I would think this would look a lot better. It would also last the life of the vehicle and not rust out like a mild steel pipe could.

self ported - referring to the throttle body.. maybe i should just remove that line in my sig.

And thanks for the info.. Spose I should get off my ass and take a look at my engine bay.


I assume someone has done this, though i will ask anyway - has anyone taken a trip to the local exhaust shop and tried to get them to bend up a Stainless Steel pipe to be used. I would think this would look a lot better. It would also last the life of the vehicle and not rust out like a mild steel pipe could.

how did you do your T/B?
Nope no one else has done it yet but id say you'll be seeing some more soon

im useing rubber bend's and alloy pipeing

stainless would hold too much heat, and would defeat the purpose of a CAI

I started replying to how i did mine here, but it started taking a little too much room so I posted a new thread.

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10801

cheers

Hey Guys,
I can put my hand uop as the Hunter Valley rep for the TH Smoker branded DIY CAI kit. I have access to all parts including the rubber bends, mild steel piping, hose clamps AND a large range of zip ties. If u want one of these exclusive kits, Pm me and i will get a price for you. :)

mild steel? can anyone say RUST?

mild steel? can anyone say RUST?

Thats why I suggested stainless pipe.., but as TheDifference stated, it would probably hold too much heat.. The next thing then would be PVC pipe. I do believe it would look like crap though.... maybe the rubber pipe from the winery is the key!

stainless would hold too much heat, and would defeat the purpose of a CAI
I dont think it would. When youve got a bunch of cold air running through it.. Spose you could always use the insulation stuff around it..

I dont think it would. When youve got a bunch of cold air running through it.. Spose you could always use the insulation stuff around it..

I gave a mate with a VN some 3" stainless piping we had laying around at work. We swapped his stock plastic intake with the stainless piping and fitted up a CAI to a sealed box with a POD filter inside. At first it was a bit more responsive :P but after about 15mins of driving around it lost a small but noticable amount of response and felt sluggier. We pulled over popped the bonnet and felt the pipe and it was VERY warm :cry: .

So insullation (Ceremaic coating??? :D ) is a must with steal piping.

I gave a mate with a VN some 3" stainless piping we had laying around at work. We swapped his stock plastic intake with the stainless piping and fitted up a CAI to a sealed box with a POD filter inside. At first it was a bit more responsive :P but after about 15mins of driving around it lost a small but noticable amount of response and felt sluggier. We pulled over popped the bonnet and felt the pipe and it was VERY warm :cry: .

So insullation (Ceremaic coating??? :D ) is a must with steal piping.
Ahh ok.. well ill scrap that idea.. I was about to order some stainless mandrel bends from WA :)

I know it looks nice and all, but in the end if it's going to reduce performance (even slightly) it’s not worth it. :D

Although if you are getting it cheap, look into pricing for ceramic coating (HPC?). Apparently it insulates very well and the finish looks like chrome anyway :P

Grab some of the heat retardant sh*t and shield the pipe. You all might want to consider placing a scoop behind the pod to channel the flow. A small pot plant container trimmed to perfection will suffice. :dancin:

Unfortunately the AWD owners wont be able to squeeze the pipe past the front of the tranny. :headbange

I'm investigating some oval crossectioned plastic pipe and will report shortly. :cool:

I did not go as far as relocating my pod down into the fender area, but
did put in place an air inlet which routed very similar to the pod modification which initiated this thread. Pictures to follow in the next couple of days.

I have my pod setup in the same manner as the set up shown in the RPW site. I have taken tips and ideas from other folks to get more air in there. Case in point I cut an opening on the plastic molding inside the hood(bonnet) to which the plastic air snorkle attaches and covered it with mesh. Also the With the RPW set up I kept the resonators in and the front of the stock airbox to act as a shield for the heat coming from the engine.

With that in mind, In the driver side (passenger for you folks) foglight area I placed the air inlet point. 4 inches in diameter,it is fixed in place by using the mounting points for the stock foglights so I did not have to cut, drill any new mounting points. I ran a 2 inch section of PVC pipe to a 45 degree 3 inch rubber plumming joint. Ran a 3 inch diameter automotive hose section straight to the opening by the tranny, used another rubber joint to attach the "plumming" to go up to the top of the engine.

I tried stainless like I said but it was hot after driving it around at highway speed. I then took the advice that I read on her about using PVC and it does work. If placed properly the straight section of PVC pipe will not touch any portion of the tranny housing, engine block, basically this pipe is not touching anything metal. As far as looks let me say that, the location of this pipe prevents anyone from seeing it so looks should not be an issue.

Finally I cut this pipe low enough to allow for placement of the stock air snorkle above it. So once I had the openning as high as the battery box, I attached a 90 degree rubber joint to it to run it to the air intake. This is the only section where I spent any serious money for this whole thing. I had the exhaust shop where I got my work done, measure, cut and bend for me a piece of aluminum pipe which would run from the rubber connector to the side of the orginal air intake box (basically this hose shaped like an 'S" almost, comes into the box from the side of the air intake facing the engine) I cut an opening on the side of the box to where this pipe would slide into thereby giving it an almost stock look. In order to avoid heat issues, this piece was stripped, primed, painted, ceramic coated. Even after running at high speed, for 20-30 minutes, you can open the hood and it is safe to the touch.

I spent a total of U.S. $30 dollars, mainly for the 3 rubber joins and the pipe work.I feel the difference at speed, so does my wife. She hates my car, so for her to say something positive about is is a miracle. I honestly do not know truly how much air I'm actually flowing but it is a noticiable difference in the car's performance. In the future I'd like to find another way to bring more air into the engine and I'm considering some of the ideas shared here in these forums.