Looking for the Whos, Wheres and $$$s of 380 Mods.

Apart from the Typical Exhaust Mods and no Turbo/SuperCharger

1. Piggyback ECU?(Cars going to be a long laster hopefully, so this will see its worth)
2. Galant Intake?(Everyone mentions these, is it because the 380s have a tiny intake?)
3. Coilovers(Not sure about these as the GTs Suspension is very nice, but i'd like a adjustable ride height)
4. HIDs(My friend brought from a Aussie eBay Reseller of Chinese ones but his have had a few issues, anyone have a reccomended brand/seller?)
5. AUX/Bluetooth Audio(Anyone have anything on this?, i'd prefer to keep it a stock headunit but having neither of these options kinda annoys a young person like me)
6. Forged Pistons(A Biggy but some info on them would be awesome)
7. VRX/TMR Front Lower Grill & Rear Matching Panel

I'm presuming i've forgotten something or don't know about others, feel free to inform the newbie :happy:

EDIT:
8. Shift Kit?(On a Manual these are more common but is there anything for an auto?)
9. Brake Upgrade, A Rather obvious one, anything in particular with the 380s brake setup outside of the norm?
EDIT2:
10. AntiSway, Is there a better option then the factory AntiSway?, or just rig up my own?

Not sure on what a galant intake does (I own a magna) but my mate imports and sells them.. If you want I can find out the cost of one for you.

If you want I can find out the cost of one for you.

If i could get some more info on them from some other members who own them then sure thing, i can only presume its better then the stock intake, else it wouldn't be mentioned on AMC.

1. ChipTorque XEDE. Knotched from Qld has one on his 380. I've driven his car and the power increase was noticeable. Google them.

2. Rumour on the grapevine is that MMAL intended for the 90mm Galant intake to be standard, but due to noise requirements that they had to use the smaller 75mm intake from the overseas 4 cylinder models. Keep an eye out on the For Sale section and fleabay. They only make a small improvement to power/driveability, but for <$100 and <30 mins of your time, I think it's worthwhile.

3. K-Sport make coilovers for 380s. Apart from adjustable ride height is there any particular reason why you want coilovers? Both Kings and Dobinsons make Superlow springs for 380s and you couldn't sensibly go much lower than them, in my view.

4. The Retrofit Source make some good quality HID kits - Morimoto is their house brand. I'm very happy with mine. Fast warm-up and consistent colour temperature at a reasonable price. I'm presuming you're doing a projector retrofit at the same time? HIDs into standard reflectors is a bit of a no-no.

5. You can get an iPod adapter from the States but it's very primitive. Best solution is to get a new headunit. Get a fascia from a base model. Just keep in mind you will get a 'Comm Error' on the MFD if you remove the OEM headunit, but one way around this is to wire it into the boot or somewhere else out of sight.

7. Keep an eye out at the wreckers, eBay, etc.

Don't forget a straight-through rear muffler.

~Snip~

Awesome :D

Anything to add for the extras i just edited in?

EDIT: In regards to the Coilovers, the adjustable rideheight is the main factor, along with bragging rights.

Koni are the best coilovers.

That's what I use in two of my 380's.

Awesome :D

Anything to add for the extras i just edited in?

No shift kits for auto 380s. Don't know why you need one, it's a very quick and smooth box for an auto of that era.

You've also got to keep in mind that there's a really limited range of aftermarket bits and pieces for 380s. Yes you might be able to get a shift kit for a Commodore or Falcon without much difficulty, but no such dice on a Magna or 380.

K-Sport make some big brake upgrades for 380s. And with a bit of tinkering I imagine late model Evo brakes would also fit. But a good set of pads will give you decent braking performance.


EDIT: In regards to the Coilovers, the adjustable rideheight is the main factor, along with bragging rights.
Like zilo said the best suspension setup is the TMR Konis. But Sachs have just started making shocks for 380s which is a much better value for money proposition imo.

There's been a few 380 owners with K-Sports who have been reasonably satisfied, but be prepared for a very firm ride and a lifespan that is potentially much shorter than a regular spring/shock combo.

Looking for the Whos, Wheres and $$$s of 380 Mods.

Apart from the Typical Exhaust Mods and no Turbo/SuperCharger

1. Piggyback ECU?(Cars going to be a long laster hopefully, so this will see its worth)
2. Galant Intake?(Everyone mentions these, is it because the 380s have a tiny intake?)
3. Coilovers(Not sure about these as the GTs Suspension is very nice, but i'd like a adjustable ride height)
4. HIDs(My friend brought from a Aussie eBay Reseller of Chinese ones but his have had a few issues, anyone have a reccomended brand/seller?)
5. AUX/Bluetooth Audio(Anyone have anything on this?, i'd prefer to keep it a stock headunit but having neither of these options kinda annoys a young person like me)
6. Forged Pistons(A Biggy but some info on them would be awesome)
7. VRX/TMR Front Lower Grill & Rear Matching Panel

I'm presuming i've forgotten something or don't know about others, feel free to inform the newbie :happy:

EDIT:
8. Shift Kit?(On a Manual these are more common but is there anything for an auto?)
9. Brake Upgrade, A Rather obvious one, anything in particular with the 380s brake setup outside of the norm?
EDIT2:
10. AntiSway, Is there a better option then the factory AntiSway?, or just rig up my own?

I will have a berklee muffler for sale soon complete bolt straight in including factory tip if you're interested
PM me its about 3 weeks old great muffler just that I'm going a duel system next week or so

I will have a berklee muffler for sale soon complete bolt straight in including factory tip if you're interested
PM me its about 3 weeks old great muffler just that I'm going a duel system next week or so

Tempted, i'll get back to you on that real soon.

Difference between the stock 380 intake (left) and the Galant intake (right)...

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I got into my 380 out of a stock TJ Magna, and was amazed at how slow the 380 was in first - really lack-lustre acceleration. Changed the snorkel, and noticed an immediate improvement low down..

5.
I purchased from these guys earlier in the year - http://www.cushieaudio.com.au/mitsubishi-aux1.html
Chose the options for the Galant.
All stock look as it connects into the external CD changer input at the back of the head unit and then just have to connect to power. The installation is simples and I was amazed at the help they provide. Just double press/hold (can't remember) the CD button to select it.
It costs a bit but after years of trying all brands of FM modulators and transmitters I wish I knew about these guys sooner.

On that topic if you'd be looking to install a sub at some point to make the most of your phat beats I can help with that also.

5.
I purchased from these guys earlier in the year - http://www.cushieaudio.com.au/mitsubishi-aux1.html
Chose the options for the Galant.
All stock look as it connects into the external CD changer input at the back of the head unit and then just have to connect to power. The installation is simples and I was amazed at the help they provide. Just double press/hold (can't remember) the CD button to select it.
It costs a bit but after years of trying all brands of FM modulators and transmitters I wish I knew about these guys sooner.

Looks like a good option, my FM Transmitter isnt bad, but it runs flat which can cause issues especially if i'm driving.
Thanks for the find!

Great find, thanks for this. You mention you found a way to do a sub.... Is that with the factory head unit?

I keep saying it....the Galant intake is proven to give zero gain on the dyno.....and that is with supercharger, twin turbo, cams etc etc etc.

Slab of beer to anyone who proves otherwise....and not on an SKR printout...LOL

Yeah, I was wondering about people who say it gives the car more power from takeoff. If any air flow improvement is to be noticed with the bigger opening, it would be at full throttle and high RPM, surely?

"Slab of beer to anyone who proves otherwise."

Is this Tasmanian beer or Mainland beer? lol

I keep saying it....the Galant intake is proven to give zero gain on the dyno.....and that is with supercharger, twin turbo, cams etc etc etc.

Slab of beer to anyone who proves otherwise....and not on an SKR printout...LOL

What intake for a non supercharge/turbo would you say that will work?

What intake for a non supercharge/turbo would you say that will work?


The stock one.

I've seen the results in print from MMAL R&D in 06 when they were also experimenting with longer runner lengths...... in stock form the 95mm intake beats the 75mm ......... only a handful of KWS from 2800 - 6000 rpm. There were decent NM gains from 3000 - 6000rpm, particularly at about 3600 rpm where there was over 10 NM difference.
This result was from 1 stock test motor & could be different on others. This is fact & theres a few around that know this.... if you you don't believe me I really couldn't .............................

Of course it's better.

As confirmed by an ex MMAL employee years ago who said the only difference between the NZ and AU power plant was the intake snorkel. Otherwise, the engines had identical parts, identical software - everything.

The NZ model was 180kw, and the AU model 175kw. Mitsubishi advertised these specs, and wouldn't have been able to do so if they weren't accurate.

No-one needs a dyno to prove it - just look at the manufacturer's data.

The reason the Gallant intake is popular option is because of its OEM look and Fit, that's also the main reason i'm doing it, along with not getting a sideways look if anything else was installed.

Of course it's better.

As confirmed by an ex MMAL employee years ago who said the only difference between the NZ and AU power plant was the intake snorkel. Otherwise, the engines had identical parts, identical software - everything.

The NZ model was 180kw, and the AU model 175kw. Mitsubishi advertised these specs, and wouldn't have been able to do so if they weren't accurate.

No-one needs a dyno to prove it - just look at the manufacturer's data.

Yeah..sure Flyboy....

The US say it's 190kw with the snorkel..the NZ say 180kw....trust me.....you can feel it...it's a whole 10nM at the flywheel.

It's just another " mod" for people who can't really afford real performance mods.

It was purely to meet noise drive by emissions and didnt affect the performance one iota.

To treat it as a performance mod is absolute dribble.

The US Ralliart had 192kw - but was a MIVEC motor, which makes it irrelevant to this discussion.

The NZ and AU models are the same engine, SAME ECU, built in the same factory, with the same cams, same lift, same specs - everything.

The 180kw was not determined by someone in NZ. It was determined by the Tonsley engine factory, the same people who determined the production AU model had 175kw.

As for your case of beer, I would happily consider reciprocating the offer if you can make your next five posts without talking about your twin turbocharged 380, or supercharged 380, or your LSD, or your $3000 MUT-III, how much money you have - or talking down to "people who can't afford real" mods.

Back to the OP, I and most other peasants on AMC recommend the intake mod. It's a very quick and easy mod and I doubt you'll find anyone who has done it and regrets it. I'm yet to read anyone who thinks it made their car slower, but many who think it's made a good bit of difference.

As for the headunit, what sort of features are you after? Factory bluetooth is pretty sloppy, best thing about it is the dial/hang up buttons look stock. Can't stream music or take an aux input. Probably best option here is a double din replacement, but some look really cheap and crappy. Something like the Pioneer AVH-X8750BT which supports Apple Play/Android Auto, and which has a very clean look to it. If you have the central trip computer thingy in the centre of the dash (rather than just a digital clock), you'll need to swap the climate control fascia over - and be prepared for an error message on the MFD screen once the stock unit is removed.

"Tonsley engine factory?" LOL....you really have no idea.

I'll have to tell my brother, the Engineer who worked at Tonsley for 19 years, that there was a 6G75 engine factory there.

Poor Flyboy, Not my fault you are a low paid, low performing aircraft mechanic.

Might be the attitude holding you back.

Careful not to upset "zilo", or he'll cry & delete all his posts like he does on all the other forums......... not everyone wants to throw stupid amounts of money at our preferred products for mediocre results, especially when you see the bang for bucks others manage on substantially smaller budgets.
Oh to know all & always be right......... lol

Ummm, wrong again, I believe Flyboy has long since moved up & on.......... not that it really makes a difference, except that he's not into blowing his own horn unlike yourself.

As for your case of beer, I would happily consider reciprocating the offer if you can make your next five posts without talking about your twin turbocharged 380, or supercharged 380, or your LSD, or your $3000 MUT-III, how much money you have - or talking down to "people who can't afford real" mods.



haha good one!

Careful not to upset "zilo", or he'll cry & delete all his posts like he does on all the other forums......... not everyone wants to throw stupid amounts of money at our preferred products for mediocre results, especially when you see the bang for bucks others manage on substantially smaller budgets.
Oh to know all & always be right......... lol

Looks like I can see at least 2 more people who will get flamed on exclusive private forums where they can neither see or defend themselves......private because most public forums will not have this person on there.

Flyboy, only reason he is still here is because he will just open yet another new account and start up yet again and we simply cant be bothered dealing with this crap. Easier to just leave him here to show everyone his poor attitude, know it all posts and the fact that he has wasted so many dollars getting others to do his work then claims that he was the one who got the results......Oh and a MUTTIII is available from china for under a grand as well :) Sad when you think about it though, you expect this sort of behavour out of a 16 year old first year apprentice who has just been allowed to open his first bonnet, not out of a grown adult man.

As for the intake, and this is just MY personal experience, I did pop my old 380 on a dyno with std intake, did a couple of runs, then we changed over to the NZ intake (which I believe was from the USA not Australia and was mainly fitted to the Galant) and after 5 more runs not any difference in torque or power at all. As I said, this is what I saw. Yes there is a slight difference in the intake sound which is what often people then think is more power but as far as numbers go nothing we could see at all. Left it on the car (was still there when I sold it) and no difference at all in fuel economy or any aspect of driving the car that I could feel. Being realistic no one will feel 2 or 3 kw anyway.

Shadow565,

Have you considered your wheel/tyre setup?

I think it can be a good bang for buck mod. If you still have the standard tyre setup, any suspension upgrades won't see their full potential.

If you want a very mild upgrade, I retained my stock rims but went to a slightly wider/bigger tyre. It helped a lot, but how much was down to the size change and how much to the better quality rubber - I'm not sure.

If you want to go further, an upgrade to bigger rims will get you on lower profile and better handling tyres - at the expense of ride comfort.

Maybe send a PM to TreeAdeyMan. He's a moderator here, and had every rim size from 17 inches right through to about 20" on his mildly modified ride. He will probably be able to point you in the right direction wrt the best ride/handling compromise for the different sizes. Get your tyres sorted out, and then you'll find any suspension upgrade much more worthwhile.

Looks like I can see at least 2 more people who will get flamed on exclusive private forums where they can neither see or defend themselves......private because most public forums will not have this person on there.

Flyboy, only reason he is still here is because he will just open yet another new account and start up yet again and we simply cant be bothered dealing with this crap. Easier to just leave him here to show everyone his poor attitude, know it all posts and the fact that he has wasted so many dollars getting others to do his work then claims that he was the one who got the results. Sad when you think about it though, you expect this sort of behavour out of a 16 year old first year apprentice who has just been allowed to open his first bonnet, not out of a grown adult man.

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For a fat little grease monkey you sure have a big mouth, the dribble and lies are never ending.

You are so busy trying desperately to sell your second hand junk you just cant stand the fact that someone catches you out at being a shonky dealer.

Your childish antics and post deletions are well known to all.

Nobody of any significance posts on this forum, the reason is YOU.

You've never done anything of any significance in this forum except behave like a dick.

Amazing noone hasn't knocked your teeth out yet....

For a fat little grease monkey you sure have a big mouth, the dribble and lies are never ending.

You are so busy trying desperately to sell your second hand junk you just cant stand the fact that someone catches you out at being a shonky dealer.

Your childish antics and post deletions are well known to all.

Nobody of any significance posts on this forum, the reason is YOU.

You've never done anything of any significance in this forum except behave like a dick.

Amazing noone hasn't knocked your teeth out yet....

See John,
Your childish insults, threats, and rantings all just show the childish sort of little person you actually are. And you really think someone would want to listen to you.

So you want to "knock my teeth out" that is fine, be a man and come here and prove yourself sweatheart....you are all words, all talk. You say how much you hate AMC but then you create multiple accounts (no doubt to go with your multiple personalities) as soon as Admins here ban you from one of these accounts. Not bad for someone who hates AMC so much.

I love how I am the one who does all these things and it seems the other 10 odd Admins and Moderators just what, sit around and do nothing.

Funny how you have all these claims to make and you have NO basis at all. You have to resort to (in the past) insulting my family, insulting me and making false accusations about me all over the place

Well my darling, I am just glad that you always think of me......

The galant intake mod sounds like one of those 'feel good' mods, does nothing but makes the owner feel his car is special. Like painting your Valiant purple or hanging a fake fox tail off your aerial. lol

The galant intake mod sounds like one of those 'feel good' mods, does nothing but makes the owner feel his car is special. Like painting your Valiant purple or hanging a fake fox tail off your aerial. lol

Done forget the Fluffy Dice.....

Hey! My fluffy dice add verifiable KW's !!! ... but I only install them for Cruises.
The extra power (and annoyance) factor is not good for everyday driving. lol

Hey GRDPuck,

You should head on down to Torquay. There's someone having a tantrum down there, throwing all their toys out of the pram! You might pick up some fluffy dice if you're lucky!

Hey GRDPuck,

You should head on down to Torquay. There's someone having a tantrum down there, throwing all their toys out of the pram! You might pick up some fluffy dice if you're lucky!


Hey flybrat, we sold Torquay a few months ago.

I'll be over in March for the Clipsal again you could meet up with me and the a few Tonsley engineers and we could chew the fat about your big snorkel.

You already qualify for free dental work so it would be a bonus for you.

BTW...don't PM me asking to be my friend anymore...I throw up on the kbd when you do...

See John,


blah..blah...deleted waffle..blah...

I love how I am the one who does all these things and it seems the other 10 odd Admins and Moderators just what, sit around and do nothing.

blah blah

Well my darling, I am just glad that you always think of me......

Malcolm dear if it wasn't for the other mods and admins here nobody would ever bother coming to AMC.......sorry to be the one to break it to you, but you're a dick always trying to make a buck and it shows all over the forum.

Yeah...I always think of you when I look at the piece of shit you sold me for 1400 bucks and I could have boughtalmost two complete cars for the price.

My fault for paying up front....you got me....good work.


I'm done here...

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Slightly on topic (for this thread's discussion style anyway)...
May I please remind people to settle down a bit. Whilst disagreements are expected and tolerated (how else can we find out the truth), please refrain from personal attacks and personal comments.

Except for that GRDPuck person, yeah..sure, he's a fat little low paid first year apprentice aircraft grease monkey shonky dealer with multiple personalities and a poor attitude, who can't even afford to do any decent performance mods without talking down people with stupid amounts of money and real performance mods - or make five posts without his usual childish post deletions, forum cleanup and Admin "play nice, okay!" dick dribble. No wonder no significant people post on this forum but those who hate it keep signing up even after being banned. Hopefully no piece of shit ever needs to get their teeth knocked out.
Get the idea sweethearts !?

Back on topic...
Interesting that Mitsu state a difference between the Au and NZ cars (with the intakes noted as the difference) but independent dyno runs seem to indicate otherwise.
Anyway, if people are interested, I think there's a Galant intake for sale here on the forums.

Malcolm dear if it wasn't for the other mods and admins here nobody would ever bother coming to AMC.......sorry to be the one to break it to you, but you're a dick always trying to make a buck and it shows all over the forum.

Yeah...I always think of you when I look at the piece of shit you sold me for 1400 bucks and I could have boughtalmost two complete cars for the price.

My fault for paying up front....you got me....good work.


I'm done here...

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No sunshine, you came to my place, you saw the car wanting to get some parts for one of yours, by the time you listed interior parts, cluster, doors etc etc I simply stated I wanted running gear and you got the rest.

2 complete 380 wrecks back then for $1400, now you really should stop this self abuse, you may go blind

I then had the WRECKED car delivered to your mates place as a roller, you then took it to your cave, dropped back SOME of the agreed suspension parts over about the next few weeks and then did not end up dropping back the rear hubs as agreed as your "mate" had stuffed one of yours when doing your AWD conversion.

Shortly after that you got banned from AMC (for the second time) for sending abusive PM Messages (2 different members complained) and then you suddenly decided bits were missing you wanted (ECU's which were on the front floor, fuses (like really), font end parts (duh, it had been hit in the front) and shifter which I had told you was sold)

You then went on your gutless rant around other forums sometime later and I stated if you were not happy I would give you a full refund, other people stated could not be fairer but you declined (and then your stupid defamatory posts got deleted anyway)

Seems you can sit there behind your keyboard sunshine and call me all the names you want to. At the end of the day it is you champ who have the issues. and reading your posts clearly states this.

So there is the other side to the story, there are always 3 sides anyway so people can make their minds up from there

Now, as for your childish behavour to ppl here, keep it up sunshine, we have banned so far 6 of your accounts, no issues here with adding 1 more to the count.

Malcolm . . . always trying to make a buck and it shows all over the forum.

This statement shows the different approaches between these two gentlemen. One is in it for the money, as he is running a business, while the other is independently wealthy (royalties from some Zilog Z80 coding in his younger days, I surmise - correct me if this is wrong).

So one makes a living from this car stuff, for the other it is a hobby and a good way to spend money.

Both approaches are legitimate. But it is the source of differering opinions and attitudes.

Can I ask though, that you refrain from calling each other "sweetheart", "darling", etc? I've run out of airline supplied barf bags . . .

No sunshine, you came to my place, you saw the car wanting to get some parts for one of yours, by the time you listed interior parts, cluster, doors etc etc I simply stated I wanted running gear and you got the rest.

blah...blah...

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LOL...is that why you removed the bootlid hinges and gas struts?

oh ffs, can you guys take it outside, this was a thread about mods to 380 not your personal issues. like seriously this has gone for 5 pages, by all means start another thread in members lounge and go for it.

Please please take it to the members lounge it would be such great entertainment
This is a new members thread its not really on
Having said that its better than Neighbors

oh ffs, can you guys take it outside, this was a thread about mods to 380 not your personal issues. like seriously this has gone for 5 pages, by all means start another thread in members lounge and go for it.

Hey I had to unblock zilo from my blacklist before I could see what was going on. I suggest you do the same.

Personally I would have banned him when the personal attacks came out. But meh, Mal you're getting pretty soft mate. Hahaha! :D :D

Having said that its better than Neighbors

Most of Australia learns it's social skills from there, explains a lot. lol

Anyhow, can I respectfully suggest that the Admins have a quiet chat in their secret lounge and decide which posts in this thread need to go, to return to the "technical/no spam" requirements of this thread? I'm happy to see my posts disappear.

But meh, Mal you're getting pretty soft mate. Hahaha! :D :D

No, he is just enjoying the banter, he gives as good as he gets.

Believe me - plenty of non public discussions have been going on.

I'll leave this thread as is for now - may clean it up later.
However, let's get back onto the topic of 380 Mods.

P.S.
Shadow565, this is not the normal way our members discuss these topics, we just seem to have hit a few nerves.
At the end of the day, not everyone has to like everyone, but we should all respect each other to some degree.

Shadow this is only my experience however limited that may be
I think the Galant intake and straight through mufflers like the Berklee are a bit like Shiney wheels lowered suspension and other modifications not really proformance but feel good which makes the car feel faster more sporty
I think there is a bit of a psychological component to it
I had a Berklee and liked the sound but honestly didn't feel much difference but I liked it and thats what matters
I had a Galant intake It was cool a fun mod to do but again for me nothing much to talk about even with the 2 combined the bit of induction sound was nice
Tried the lower resonator mod and much the same
Now I have a 3 inch intake with a pod snuggled into the front guard and I think there is a difference
Below 2800 rpm she seems to be a bit doughy then comes to life after that bear in mind a dual exhaust system was fitted at the same time
Also I always found that 3000 rpm mark is where the 380 comes to life anyway
I highly recommend the Galant and the Berklee they are cheap mods good fun sound cool and with the Galant intake and satisfying DIY mod
Unfortunately we are very limited with true proformance mods
No ECU flashing no plug n play chips only one source for extractors
Spend your money how you will but stop at the basics as far a trying to gain horsepower from a 380 unless you have deep pockets spend it on some nice wheels lower it tints etc
Just my 2 bob

Shadow this is only my experience however limited that may be
I think the Galant intake and straight through mufflers like the Berklee are a bit like Shiney wheels lowered suspension and other modifications not really proformance but feel good which makes the car feel faster more sporty
I think there is a bit of a psychological component to it
I had a Berklee and liked the sound but honestly didn't feel much difference but I liked it and thats what matters
I had a Galant intake It was cool a fun mod to do but again for me nothing much to talk about even with the 2 combined the bit of induction sound was nice
Tried the lower resonator mod and much the same
Now I have a 3 inch intake with a pod snuggled into the front guard and I think there is a difference
Below 2800 rpm she seems to be a bit doughy then comes to life after that bear in mind a dual exhaust system was fitted at the same time
Also I always found that 3000 rpm mark is where the 380 comes to life anyway
I highly recommend the Galant and the Berklee they are cheap mods good fun sound cool and with the Galant intake and satisfying DIY mod
Unfortunately we are very limited with true proformance mods
No ECU flashing no plug n play chips only one source for extractors
Spend your money how you will but stop at the basics as far a trying to gain horsepower from a 380 unless you have deep pockets spend it on some nice wheels lower it tints etc
Just my 2 bob

So what you are saying is buy a Magna?

lol ... hear me out

Magna doesn't have 3 cats... doesn't have 4 oxy sensors. So you can easily change the exhaust without making the computer go haywire. Extractors and cat deletion...
Additionally the 380 engine goes in the magna easily, as well as a host of good intakes to go with the magnas including the stock one which is the best .. :P
Then on top of that you have factory ECU tuning and dual mapping for ignition and fuel. Maf scaling, injector scaling (providing they're high impedance), etc.
And the Magna's are lighter.

Personally though... all crazy notions aside. If I had a 380 I would get a GT, put a rear muffler on it, remove any intake resonators, and probably get a galant snorkle (aim for the burble and get the throatiness going) and enjoy it as what it is; a tourer.

So what you are saying is buy a Magna?

lol ... hear me out

Magna doesn't have 3 cats... doesn't have 4 oxy sensors. So you can easily change the exhaust without making the computer go haywire. Extractors and cat deletion...
Additionally the 380 engine goes in the magna easily, as well as a host of good intakes to go with the magnas including the stock one which is the best .. :P
Then on top of that you have factory ECU tuning and dual mapping for ignition and fuel. Maf scaling, injector scaling (providing they're high impedance), etc.
And the Magna's are lighter.

Personally though... all crazy notions aside. If I had a 380 I would get a GT, put a rear muffler on it, remove any intake resonators, and probably get a galant snorkle (aim for the burble and get the throatiness going) and enjoy it as what it is; a tourer.

Neo my daily is a manual TF light as no frills or fancy stuff I love it goes like a shot duck
Its just that I always wanted a 380 and when the supercharger came up I thought why not I'm getting close
I agree with what you're saying once the 380 is finished I'm thinking either the TF will get some love or a AWD TJ will be on the cards so many more options available

So what you are saying is buy a Magna?

lol ... hear me out

Magna doesn't have 3 cats... doesn't have 4 oxy sensors. So you can easily change the exhaust without making the computer go haywire. Extractors and cat deletion...
Additionally the 380 engine goes in the magna easily, as well as a host of good intakes to go with the magnas including the stock one which is the best .. :P
Then on top of that you have factory ECU tuning and dual mapping for ignition and fuel. Maf scaling, injector scaling (providing they're high impedance), etc.
And the Magna's are lighter.

Personally though... all crazy notions aside. If I had a 380 I would get a GT, put a rear muffler on it, remove any intake resonators, and probably get a galant snorkle (aim for the burble and get the throatiness going) and enjoy it as what it is; a tourer.


Only trouble with a Magna is it looks like a Valiant.

Hmmm..... Magna looks like a Valiant.... Are you visually impaired?


Back on topic, the difference in engine power between the NZ and AU models may be because they were measured on the engine dyno and not wheel dyno.

Hmmm..... Magna looks like a Valiant.... Are you visually impaired?


Back on topic, the difference in engine power between the NZ and AU models may be because they were measured on the engine dyno and not wheel dyno.

Ignore zilo he's a bit special. I've blocked his posts because they mean nothing on here and are often just gibberish.

Got a source for the engine/wheel dyno thing? I would be interested in looking in to that.

Neo, power and torque specs from car makers are engine power/ torque, not wheel power/ torque. Too many things can affect at wheel readings. See below article, esp measurement section.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

Neo, power and torque specs from car makers are engine power/ torque, not wheel power/ torque. Too many things can affect at wheel readings. See below article, esp measurement section.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

Well yes I know that. I was wondering whether you were saying AU & NZ measure differently.

The 5kw at the fly will reduce to unnoticeable differences due to drivetrain loss and other variables.

Great find, thanks for this. You mention you found a way to do a sub.... Is that with the factory head unit?

Sorry, missed your reply.
Yes factory head unit.
I can do up a more detailed explanation with photos and stuff if anyone is interested, but basically I ran the initiator wire to the amp from the cigarette lighter. For the signal I piggy backed from the rear speaker wire under the rear left seat. Everything I tucked neatly away under the seats and under plastic trim.

Thanks, I'm still weighing up the audio options but glad to know this is possible.

I have a sub and amp in much the way that ocnav described. Marty (SH00T) did most of the install for me (legend!!). Adding a sub really rounds off the OEM stereo in my opinion - dollar wise, I'd rather a small sub on the factory system than replacing the speakers only.

I just have a 12" Alpine Type S sub in a pre-fab sealed box with a basic Alpine monoblock and it works very well. Not going to win any competitions but very pleasant for daily listening.

My 380 currently has a FLi 1200 Monoblock and Comp RT Sub installed in the back.
Ran power wire through the rubber gromet behind the drivers side guard and along the right hand side of the car, Purchased a line level converter and spliced it into the OEM 6 Stacker and ran the RCAs down the left hand side of the car.
Sounds nice but its suffering a feedback loop via the rear speakers, making the sub go nuts when i turn the car off.