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LUKKY
23-09-2015, 09:20 AM
Hi guys, I recently swapped out my old headlight assembly for another as the plastic was well worn beyond belief. I was just wondering how I'd be able to adjust the headlights horizontally?
I found the low beam vertical adjusting screw after 30 minutes and the high beams are adjusted good as well.
I've been putting off HIDs as I heard the glare was unbearable even after pointing them as low as possible, but on the off chance I decide to be stupid I wanna know how I can be a little bit responsible for other drivers.
Thanks in advance!
peaandham
23-09-2015, 08:12 PM
What car?
There are 3 screws to adjust the low beam, one pushes it more left, the other right and the final one is vertical. A small stubby screw will get you access with the windscreen water tank out of the way it's still cramped though. If you're not sure, remove the headlight, find the ones im talking about, put the headlight back in and atleast you know what you are feeling for now.
In any car with reflectors there is bugger all you can do to make HID's suitable, you really need projectors to use HID's a myself and a few other members have retrofitted them into our cars to run HID's.
LUKKY
24-09-2015, 03:17 AM
Thanks for the reply, I knew I forgot to mention something. I have an 01 KJ Verada and all I've found are the screws for the high beam and low beam vertical adjustment. Are they all the same look or am I really missing something?
Wombatkarl
24-09-2015, 04:15 AM
If you use hid h7r bulbs they have the proper cutoff to minimize glare
bb61266
24-09-2015, 08:01 AM
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bb61266
24-09-2015, 08:10 AM
I've put H7R HID lights in to try and compensate for the useless reflectors in the verada style lights - when lined up pointing at a wall the cutoff is a little "furry" compared to the standard bulbs but when viewed head on the glare is not worse, the shadows and splodgie light pattern is just as bad but the brilliance of the light at least makes things easier to see. Got to say the standard Magna lights are 100% better to drive with - just don't look as good.
Wombatkarl
24-09-2015, 10:31 AM
I found some h7r bulbs are better than others....
The parabolic design of the Verada headlights is poor agreed, but HIDs in reflectors are a total eye sore & blinding hazard to oncoming traffic (hence why they're illegal).
I used to have HIDs in my parabolics but decided to switch them out & go with Philips Diamond Vision for both H1 & H7.
With a quality set of halogens, the parras when used in conjuntion with the bumper level driving lights work rather well.
There is no need to go HID to get satisfactory results from this set up and as been mentioned, if you do want to go HIDs, it should be to be a total retro fit complete with self leveling projector beam mechanisms & headlight washer jets. Also, I'm pretty sure a 4500k colour temperature is the highest you are allowed in order to meet ADR.
Quality Name brand incandescents that have excellent filament geometry & UV cut, designed specifically for reflector designs (Generic HID's designs aren't optimised for reflectors - their geometry is woeful in reflector set ups), meet EU/AU standards from either Philips or Osram (Narva are a good cheaper alternative), set up the aim properly and you'll an upgraded lighting set up that is legal.
Wombatkarl
24-09-2015, 10:38 AM
I only use 4300k bulbs. HID lamps may be retro-fitted to the vehicle main beam (high beam) circuit without the requirement for self-levelling or lens cleaning devices however, the road rules prohibits against dazzling another road user with bright vehicle lights.
HID lamps may be retro-fitted to the vehicle main beam (high beam) circuit without the requirement for self-levelling or lens cleaning devices however, the road rules prohibits against dazzling another road user with bright vehicle lights.
That's handy to know, however the geometry of an H1 HID's output (in this example) is still poorly matched to a reflector. In my experience having fitted & used them, the shear brighness of the HID will still yield a much stronger beam, no arguments there, but it will create noticable hot & cold spots, excessive overspill and an overall messy beam pattern.
The other problem that I came across was that the HID inserts require a fair amount of modifications as they are a different design to the OEM Halogen inserts. They don't sit properly in the cradle when fitting them & there's no provision of a dust proof seal. They are not a straight forward PnP swap like is claimed by sellers of these kits.
bb61266
25-09-2015, 03:39 PM
Must say the H1 HID's work very well in the Paras and when I compared the area that the HID uses as it "strike" or discharge point it matches the standard H1 filament quite well.
I only used the 35w H7R not 55w - as the 35w rating is nearer the 100w Halogen rating that I wanted to achieve, I think perhaps some of the bad press on the HID conversion is too higher output eg: 55w - that's nearer 200watt - I've never seen a 200watt low beam halogen - but I reckon it would be dazzling too.
I chose the 4300 temp bulbs for both as although there is some research that shows Ultra Violet light is good at making flesh and white materials stand out - the purple colour of the higher temp bulbs looks harsh to me.
Anyway - the old bulbs are in the boot just in case Mr Plod gets out his ticket book on a dark night.
Wombatkarl
28-09-2015, 12:01 PM
I agree
Must say the H1 HID's work very well in the Paras and when I compared the area that the HID uses as it "strike" or discharge point it matches the standard H1 filament quite well.
I only used the 35w H7R not 55w - as the 35w rating is nearer the 100w Halogen rating that I wanted to achieve, I think perhaps some of the bad press on the HID conversion is too higher output eg: 55w - that's nearer 200watt - I've never seen a 200watt low beam halogen - but I reckon it would be dazzling too.
I chose the 4300 temp bulbs for both as although there is some research that shows Ultra Violet light is good at making flesh and white materials stand out - the purple colour of the higher temp bulbs looks harsh to me.
Anyway - the old bulbs are in the boot just in case Mr Plod gets out his ticket book on a dark night.
Yep, the UV in my factory 3400K HID lights up distant signage very well.
Alan3103
28-09-2015, 11:14 PM
Hi im new to this forum i just got a 2005 vrx in adrenaline, im trying to find the adjusters for headlamp aim, are these the 3 that look like allen key heads when looking down vertically ?.
Must say the H1 HID's work very well in the Paras and when I compared the area that the HID uses as it "strike" or discharge point it matches the standard H1 filament quite well.
My HID high beams lit up the road great, I used to travel the hightway late at night for work, I'd have cars a kilometre away in front of me apply their brake lights on & off as the intensity was obviously bothering them lol!! HID geometry was admitedly a somewhat better match in the H1 reflectors - no where near as good as my Philips diamand vision incandescents mind you.
However H7 HIDs in my Parra low beam reflectors (when I had them briefly) were shit for aforementioned hot/cold spots, bleed & poor beam pattern & unavoidable glare.
I only used the 35w H7R not 55w - as the 35w rating is nearer the 100w Halogen rating that I wanted to achieve, I think perhaps some of the bad press on the HID conversion is too higher output eg: 55w - that's nearer 200watt - I've never seen a 200watt low beam halogen - but I reckon it would be dazzling too.
I was the same as you, I only ever used 35w HIDs, but they were still too bright for oncoming traffic. Heck I even got hassled about the HIDs in my driving lamps being too bright :-S 55w HID's are only good for off road, seriously, how bright do some street/suburban drivers want their lights to be? Sheesh.
I chose the 4300 temp bulbs for both as although there is some research that shows Ultra Violet light is good at making flesh and white materials stand out - the purple colour of the higher temp bulbs looks harsh to me.
Anyway - the old bulbs are in the boot just in case Mr Plod gets out his ticket book on a dark night.
Deep blue to magenta/purple beyond looking cool on a car/pickup is totally impractical, even if it was legal, they are absolutely useless for night time driving, they filter out too much fine detail & their contrast is rubbish.
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