Hyphen
11-10-2015, 09:14 AM
This guide aims to define the process required to utilise the gear indicator lights on a 5-speed tiptronic or "Sports Automatic" transmission cluster for third-gen Magna/Verada and 380 vehicles with manual transmission. Later model third-gens (TJ/KJ through to TW/KW) and 380s have models with 5-speed tiptronic set-ups, the clusters for which are all covered in this guide. It currently does not provide or discuss any methods on how to produce a circuit that can utilise these indication lights, it only shows which wires/pins are required to be utilised/modified to do so.
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s367/TehHyphen/AMC/uctripple_zpswdukql7d.png~original
This guide is under construction and is not complete. It is being written in collaboration with the ongoing development of Skapper's sequential shifter modification for manual transmissions; a sequential shifter requires a method of gear indication as identification from the original H-pattern shifter is lost. The information in this guide is currently tailored to suit the requirements for that modification. It is provided "as-is" without warranty, express or implied. The author, AMC and its staff, administrators and affiliates accept no liability for any damages caused through the use or misuse of this information. Use at your own risk.
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s367/TehHyphen/AMC/uctripple_zpswdukql7d.png~original
YOU WILL NEED
A cluster from a car with 5-speed tiptronic transmission
DIFFICULTY — Intermediate. Some level of understanding of DC circuits is required.
ESTIMATED COMPLETION TIME — N/A
INSTRUCTIONS
Step 1 — Identify required pins/wires
Below are the list of the gear identification light pinouts on the clusters for each of the different models from TJ/KJ Series 1 through to 380 (380 not yet available, coming soon). Normally the gear signal for the indication lights is handled by the A/T control unit, which obviously does not exist in manual vehicles. Luckily for us, each individual indication light has its own (positive) signal wire; there's no fancy regulated voltage voodoo or complex circuit network to crack into. This makes our lives really easy, as a simple patch into the appropriate wires is all that is needed to illuminate the corresponding gear indicator light.
I gathered the information below from the circuit diagrams from MMAL's own service manuals, so they should definitely be correct. I have personally bench tested the pinouts on a KW cluster I have waiting for me to have some spare time to put in my car, and it worked as expected. I have NOT tested the pinouts for any of the other clusters, but I put faith in MMAL that the diagrams for those clusters are also correct.
I have also included the appropriate grounding pins for these lights, in case you would like to bench test your circuit before cutting up wires in your car. The ground pins are not required to be patched into in order illuminate the lights in the car, as the source voltage from your custom circuit will come from the car's battery/alternator anyway; the current can be returned to the battery/alternator via your car's existing ground network.
TJ/KJ Series 1
P — Connector C03 Pin 47 — Blue wire - White trace
R — Connector C03 Pin 50 — Red wire - Blue trace
N — Connector C03 Pin 46 — Red wire - Green trace
D — Connector C03 Pin 44 — Yellow wire - Blue trace
5 — Connector C03 Pin 54 — Blue wire - Red trace
4 — Connector C03 Pin 43 — White wire - Red trace
3 — Connector C03 Pin 42 — White wire - Black trace
2 — Connector C03 Pin 41 — Yellow wire - Black trace
1 — Connector C03 Pin 49 — Black wire - Red trace
GROUND — Connector C03 Pin 48 — Black wire - Yellow trace
GROUND — Connector C04 Pin 04 — Black wire
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s367/TehHyphen/AMC/TJ1-15_zpsrzdsbezv.png~original
TJ/KJ Series 2
P — Connector C25 Pin 27 — Blue wire - White trace
R — Connector C25 Pin 28 — Red wire - Blue trace
N — Connector C25 Pin 36 — Red wire - Green trace
D — Connector C25 Pin 35 — Yellow wire - Blue trace
5 — Connector C25 Pin 34 — Blue wire - Red trace
4 — Connector C25 Pin 33 — White wire - Red trace
3 — Connector C25 Pin 32 — White wire - Black trace
2 — Connector C25 Pin 31 — Yellow wire - Black trace
1 — Connector C25 Pin 30 — Black wire - Red trace
GROUND — Connector C24 Pin 03 — Black wire - Yellow trace
GROUND — Connector C24 Pin 20 — Black wire
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s367/TehHyphen/AMC/TJ2_zpsgik58z7p.png~original
TL/KL and TW/KW
P — Connector C05 Pin 27 — Blue wire - White trace
R — Connector C05 Pin 28 — Red wire - Blue trace
N — Connector C05 Pin 36 — Red wire - Green trace
D — Connector C05 Pin 35 — Yellow wire - Blue trace
5 — Connector C05 Pin 34 — Blue wire - Red trace
4 — Connector C05 Pin 33 — White wire - Red trace
3 — Connector C05 Pin 32 — White wire - Black trace
2 — Connector C05 Pin 31 — Yellow wire - Black trace
1 — Connector C05 Pin 30 — Black wire - Red trace
GROUND — Connector C04 Pin 03 — Black wire - Yellow trace
GROUND — Connector C04 Pin 20 — Black wire
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s367/TehHyphen/AMC/TLTW_zpseajf1rg8.png~original
380
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s367/TehHyphen/AMC/ucsmall_zpsftrx2l9l.png~original
REFERENCES
Skapper is prototyping a sequential shifter modification for manual transmission. Discussions and progress updates on this mod for his manual 380 can be found here:
Skapper's thread about his sequential shifter mod prototype for his 380 (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105856)
Skapper's initial discussions that kickstarted the sequential shifter idea can be found here (sequential modification conversations start near the end of Page 4):
Skapper's thread on electrical modifications for tiptronic auto transmissions (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92462)
Copies of MMALs Service Manuals can be found here (the links are in karj's signature):
karj's post about download links for MMAL Service Manuals (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95825#post1504088)
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s367/TehHyphen/AMC/uctripple_zpswdukql7d.png~original
This guide is under construction and is not complete. It is being written in collaboration with the ongoing development of Skapper's sequential shifter modification for manual transmissions; a sequential shifter requires a method of gear indication as identification from the original H-pattern shifter is lost. The information in this guide is currently tailored to suit the requirements for that modification. It is provided "as-is" without warranty, express or implied. The author, AMC and its staff, administrators and affiliates accept no liability for any damages caused through the use or misuse of this information. Use at your own risk.
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s367/TehHyphen/AMC/uctripple_zpswdukql7d.png~original
YOU WILL NEED
A cluster from a car with 5-speed tiptronic transmission
DIFFICULTY — Intermediate. Some level of understanding of DC circuits is required.
ESTIMATED COMPLETION TIME — N/A
INSTRUCTIONS
Step 1 — Identify required pins/wires
Below are the list of the gear identification light pinouts on the clusters for each of the different models from TJ/KJ Series 1 through to 380 (380 not yet available, coming soon). Normally the gear signal for the indication lights is handled by the A/T control unit, which obviously does not exist in manual vehicles. Luckily for us, each individual indication light has its own (positive) signal wire; there's no fancy regulated voltage voodoo or complex circuit network to crack into. This makes our lives really easy, as a simple patch into the appropriate wires is all that is needed to illuminate the corresponding gear indicator light.
I gathered the information below from the circuit diagrams from MMAL's own service manuals, so they should definitely be correct. I have personally bench tested the pinouts on a KW cluster I have waiting for me to have some spare time to put in my car, and it worked as expected. I have NOT tested the pinouts for any of the other clusters, but I put faith in MMAL that the diagrams for those clusters are also correct.
I have also included the appropriate grounding pins for these lights, in case you would like to bench test your circuit before cutting up wires in your car. The ground pins are not required to be patched into in order illuminate the lights in the car, as the source voltage from your custom circuit will come from the car's battery/alternator anyway; the current can be returned to the battery/alternator via your car's existing ground network.
TJ/KJ Series 1
P — Connector C03 Pin 47 — Blue wire - White trace
R — Connector C03 Pin 50 — Red wire - Blue trace
N — Connector C03 Pin 46 — Red wire - Green trace
D — Connector C03 Pin 44 — Yellow wire - Blue trace
5 — Connector C03 Pin 54 — Blue wire - Red trace
4 — Connector C03 Pin 43 — White wire - Red trace
3 — Connector C03 Pin 42 — White wire - Black trace
2 — Connector C03 Pin 41 — Yellow wire - Black trace
1 — Connector C03 Pin 49 — Black wire - Red trace
GROUND — Connector C03 Pin 48 — Black wire - Yellow trace
GROUND — Connector C04 Pin 04 — Black wire
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s367/TehHyphen/AMC/TJ1-15_zpsrzdsbezv.png~original
TJ/KJ Series 2
P — Connector C25 Pin 27 — Blue wire - White trace
R — Connector C25 Pin 28 — Red wire - Blue trace
N — Connector C25 Pin 36 — Red wire - Green trace
D — Connector C25 Pin 35 — Yellow wire - Blue trace
5 — Connector C25 Pin 34 — Blue wire - Red trace
4 — Connector C25 Pin 33 — White wire - Red trace
3 — Connector C25 Pin 32 — White wire - Black trace
2 — Connector C25 Pin 31 — Yellow wire - Black trace
1 — Connector C25 Pin 30 — Black wire - Red trace
GROUND — Connector C24 Pin 03 — Black wire - Yellow trace
GROUND — Connector C24 Pin 20 — Black wire
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s367/TehHyphen/AMC/TJ2_zpsgik58z7p.png~original
TL/KL and TW/KW
P — Connector C05 Pin 27 — Blue wire - White trace
R — Connector C05 Pin 28 — Red wire - Blue trace
N — Connector C05 Pin 36 — Red wire - Green trace
D — Connector C05 Pin 35 — Yellow wire - Blue trace
5 — Connector C05 Pin 34 — Blue wire - Red trace
4 — Connector C05 Pin 33 — White wire - Red trace
3 — Connector C05 Pin 32 — White wire - Black trace
2 — Connector C05 Pin 31 — Yellow wire - Black trace
1 — Connector C05 Pin 30 — Black wire - Red trace
GROUND — Connector C04 Pin 03 — Black wire - Yellow trace
GROUND — Connector C04 Pin 20 — Black wire
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s367/TehHyphen/AMC/TLTW_zpseajf1rg8.png~original
380
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s367/TehHyphen/AMC/ucsmall_zpsftrx2l9l.png~original
REFERENCES
Skapper is prototyping a sequential shifter modification for manual transmission. Discussions and progress updates on this mod for his manual 380 can be found here:
Skapper's thread about his sequential shifter mod prototype for his 380 (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105856)
Skapper's initial discussions that kickstarted the sequential shifter idea can be found here (sequential modification conversations start near the end of Page 4):
Skapper's thread on electrical modifications for tiptronic auto transmissions (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92462)
Copies of MMALs Service Manuals can be found here (the links are in karj's signature):
karj's post about download links for MMAL Service Manuals (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95825#post1504088)