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Will8027
12-10-2015, 02:23 PM
Hello, (video included)

I have a 96 Magna TE EXEC and I'm concerned about this grinding noise that happens when I release the brakes. It makes a grinding noise whenever I release the brakes regardless if I let off slowly or if I quickly let them off, the grinding noise is short when I release them quickly but still there.

I just bought the car and I'm not sure if I need new brakes or something but I was hoping somebody on here can give me an idea or tell me what's wrong. My father say's it's normal but I don't believe him, I think there's definitely something wrong because my driving instructor's car doesn't do that, I may be wrong who knows.

I'll be driving it out of town many times to learn in (learner driver) and I don't want that grinding noise because it's embarrassing and annoying, hopefully you all can diagnose the problem. Here's a recording on what it sounds like.

https://soundcloud.com/will-carter-152285305/grinding-noise

Ensoniq5
12-10-2015, 04:32 PM
Where did you record that, in the footwell? If so the pedal could just need a bit of a squirt of WD40 on the moving bits (don't get any on the rubber bit, you don't want your foot slipping off!). That's assuming it does it when the car's stationary.

Will8027
12-10-2015, 04:35 PM
I did record it in the footwell. I don't believe it's the brake pedal though, I think it's more than that?

The grinding noise happens when I release the brakes. The engine is running and my car is in idle, once the brake is released or being released slowly it makes that grinding noise.

Ensoniq5
12-10-2015, 06:39 PM
If there's no noise at the actual brakes it's either the pedal, the master cylinder or the brake booster. I guess one test would be to depress the pedal with the engine running, switch off the motor, and then release the pedal. If still noisy I guess that eliminates the booster. Could be a problem in the master cylinder, not heard of this before though (but others may have). I'd start by lubricating the moving parts and go from there, running a kit through the master cylinder could be worth it but not something you want to mess around with if you're not sure what you're doing. To me it really just sounds like a bit of a creak, not anything to be overly concerned with.

SilverSlug
12-10-2015, 06:52 PM
Is it a graunchy sound when you release the brakes slowly?quiet if you release the brakes quickly? Could be just the pads ie 'noisy'
Had my pads changed and car did this.
I posted about this in 380 forum.

TW2005
12-10-2015, 06:54 PM
Not sure what i'm hearing in that file but is there vibration associated with it at all? On my magna with bendix general ct it would groan and shudder a bit if i'd just hosed down the car and brakes etc. on application at crawling speeds until they dried out a bit ,they were a fairly hard pad.

Ensoniq5
12-10-2015, 07:04 PM
Not sure what i'm hearing in that file but is there vibration associated with it at all? On my magna with bendix general ct it would groan and shudder a bit if i'd just hosed down the car and brakes etc. on application at crawling speeds until they dried out a bit ,they were a fairly hard pad.

Same here, but the OP's problem happens while stationary and on releasing the pedal, not depressing.

Will8027
12-10-2015, 07:22 PM
Is it a graunchy sound when you release the brakes slowly?quiet if you release the brakes quickly? Could be just the pads ie 'noisy'
Had my pads changed and car did this.
I posted about this in 380 forum.

I recorded the grinding noise, please go to the link and play the file. The car makes a grinding noise whenever I release the brakes with the engine running and the handbrake off, when I release the brakes slowly the car creeps back slowly and that's when the grinding noise happens. If I release the brakes quickly the grinding noise is short and less loud.

Ensoniq5
12-10-2015, 07:23 PM
...the problem happens when I release the brakes with the engine running and the car moves backward or forward a little bit but once the brakes have been released fully and I brake, there's no grinding noise but as soon as I come to a full stop with the brakes pressed the grinding returns once releasing them.

Changes everything! Sounds like a bit of shudder, nothing serious if on release of the brakes. New pads of a different make will probably fix it, may also be missing the shims. Still nothing to be concerned about, mine's done this for as long as I've owned it. Since the car's new to you it's worth getting the brakes checked anyway before taking it on the road, sometimes just clearing out brake dust can get rid of the noise.

Will8027
12-10-2015, 07:25 PM
Same here, but the OP's problem happens while stationary and on releasing the pedal, not depressing.

I apologize for confusing you. The grinding noise happens whenever I release the brakes and I creep either forward or backwards with the handbrake deactivated and the engine running. When I press the brake pedal there's no grinding noise, it's only when I release them and my car moves slightly.

Will8027
12-10-2015, 07:28 PM
Changes everything! Sounds like a bit of shudder, nothing serious if on release of the brakes. New pads of a different make will probably fix it, may also be missing the shims. Still nothing to be concerned about, mine's done this for as long as I've owned it. Since the car's new to you it's worth getting the brakes checked anyway before taking it on the road, sometimes just clearing out brake dust can get rid of the noise.

Thanks. I'll definitely get it checked because I'll be driving all over the country side learning to drive, don't want to cause an accident.. BTW if your's had this issue for the longest time, why haven't you fixed it lol?

Ensoniq5
12-10-2015, 07:32 PM
Thanks. I'll definitely get it checked because I'll be driving all over the country side learning to drive, don't want to cause an accident.. BTW if your's had this issue for the longest time, why haven't you fixed it lol?

Used to it I guess! Only really happens if I release just enough brake pressure for the car to start creeping forward (it's an auto). Otherwise I don't really notice. No apologies necessary BTW, can be tricky to describe and diagnose a fault online.

Will8027
12-10-2015, 07:42 PM
Used to it I guess! Only really happens if I release just enough brake pressure for the car to start creeping forward (it's an auto). Otherwise I don't really notice. No apologies necessary BTW, can be tricky to describe and diagnose a fault online.

Wait I don't think you understand it, I may have said it wrong.

So for example, I release the brakes with the engine running and handbrake off, I slowly let off the brakes and I creep backwards a little bit and that's when the grinding noise begins once the brakes are being released slowly and the car moves. I hope you understand it lol. It also happens when creeping forward but once the brakes are released completely, there's no grinding. Only when the brakes are being released from a full stop and the car moves a little I guess.