View Full Version : how do you take the fuel tanks out
magna buff
24-10-2015, 10:22 AM
I never had to replace one ...... wagon or sedan
my repair manuals are in storage
anyone have an idea
AQUAR
25-10-2015, 08:38 PM
I'll have a look in mine, but I don't recall seeing anything about removing fuel tanks.
Did replace the one on my KS though!
Was a PITA simply because of access and clearances needed.
Really needed to be over a pit or raised up high to do it with ease.
Raised it sufficiently by putting a few railway sleepers under the rear tires.
magna buff
26-10-2015, 07:24 AM
though it might be handy to know how
some one will one day, have to clean or replace a tank
then I will ad this into the pinned tm_tp info topic
rumpfy
26-10-2015, 08:20 AM
I have a Gregory's TN manual. Page 94 describes the actions.
Rumpfys short version.
1. Disconnect the battery.
2. Raise the rear of the car and support on chassis stands.
3. Empty the fuel tank by syphoning, and NOT by removing the screw that holds the fuel pump in position on the bottom of the tank.
4. Undo nuts and bolts, and with the sedan, lower the rear of the tank a little bit so as to disconnect the electric connectors for the fuel pump and sender.
5. Undo everything and drop the tank out.
6. On sedan models, use NEW tank strap retaining nuts. Tighten the nuts until the curled end of the strap contacts the body.
hope this helps.
MadMax
26-10-2015, 08:35 AM
Forgot to mention to have a few big jerry cans handy to store that fuel in. Filter it before putting it into another car, or keep it for the lawn mower.
If it is to be junked, wash it out with the garden hose to get rid of any petrol fumes in there, chop it up into little bits with an angle grinder or electric saw small enough to fit in your recycle bin or to fit in the boot of another car, most tips take metal for free.
(Got rid of a water damaged caravan and rusty trailer like that, I loves me power tools!)
If it is to be reused, google the appropriate method of cleaning out and de-rusting.
Or instead of blowing yourself up with an angle grinder just take it down to the local scrappers / recycling depot. Aluminium goes for a bit still even base metal prices are crap but they still pay a bit for alloy parts like fuel tanks and heads.
I'm lucky enough to have a place at the end of my street that takes all my junk and gives me money :ninja:
P.S. Max, I know you said clean it out of petrol first, just kidding about the blowing up bit. I'm just saying instead of cutting it up in to tiny bits and putting it to land fill, recycle instead :eek2:
MadMax
26-10-2015, 09:36 AM
P.S. Max, I know you said clean it out of petrol first, just kidding about the blowing up bit. I'm just saying instead of cutting it up in to tiny bits and putting it to land fill, recycle instead :eek2:
I just like cutting up things. lol I would do it with some water in it though.
Probably safer if you can ship it off to recycling as one piece, just thinking back to the trailer that needed cutting up into boot size bits.
But a fuel tank will probably go in the boot of a car in one piece, or a station wagon would be no problems at all. My local tip has a really good sorting process, metals definitely get recycled. It's indoors, and stuff gets dumped on a conveyor belt.
magna buff
26-10-2015, 10:45 AM
anything about the filler tube
is it part of the tank and just drops away from the boot area ?
anything about the filler tube
is it part of the tank and just drops away from the boot area ?
If they are anything like the third gen ones, the filler tube is connected to the tank via a hose and clamp, can simply be removed.
magna buff
26-10-2015, 10:50 AM
this seller wanted $150 for a tank
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh59/magnabuff/magna/tn%20fuel%20tank.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/magnabuff/media/magna/tn%20fuel%20tank.jpg.html)
$150, for a 1st gen tank? What a bust....
Not only is it a fairly involving job but he wants to rob you as well.
:P
AQUAR
26-10-2015, 07:46 PM
$150 bucks !!!!!!
Was robbed of $250 for one from the wreckers (it was needed for the KS - I know 2nd gen!).
On top of the $250 I had to clean from stale fuel and asphaltine deposits (had a dent in it as well!).
Still was much better than the one that came out and at least the KS is back on the road now.
I think fuel tanks for these old cars are hard to come by now, hence sellers will set a premium.
ts370000
28-10-2015, 08:52 AM
What I found useful :
Put the car on stands, remove rear wheels. Most stuff will be done lying on the back so make room. (don't forget to chock front wheels)
When undoing the tank band installation nuts : Use a long tube socket and long extensions to avoid the axle bar. Otherwise it gets fiddly. I used a tube spanner driven by a short socket and a couple of extensions.*
I used a garage jack with a piece of ply on it to support the middle of the tank which went ok wwith about 20 l of petrol still in the tank. To empty I put it on/between a couple of chairs with the filler tube in place which made handling it for emptying into cans easy
Consider replacing the pump.
Be careful about the sender. Delicate.
edit add * and then I slid it off the lowered jack onto a piece of carpet which I then used to pull it out from under. Same reverse except now it's empty and easy to reposition on jack. Use one hand to balance/positon, other to jack it up.
dennystone 12
28-10-2015, 09:08 AM
Removed my tank a few months ago, had trouble getting the fuel out by siphoning, drained it from the drain plug. Getting the EFI fuel connection off hard. on very tight. If you take the straps off, put them in before putting the tank in place.
AQUAR
28-10-2015, 07:41 PM
I did something very similar to ts370000.
Build a H frame out of pine planks, with a bolt in the middle to use as an anchor point for a trolley jack.
Also taped some Styrofoam onto the H frame for allowing the tank to "mold" onto the H frame (also protects!).
This allows up/down, forward/backward plus rotation and makes it much easier to manoeuvre the fuel tank into its "ackward" place.
Building a simple rig like this is especially worthwhile if its going to be a "one man" job
http://i.imgur.com/0Qdx4Kr.jpg
dennystone 12
30-10-2015, 10:59 AM
Good idea to put a new fuel pump in also, peace of mind
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