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Lock
14-03-2016, 12:19 PM
What good options are there for adding auxilliary input (my ipod), or bluetooth, for music? Reading on these forums it sounds like there aren't any good ones (that won't cost a mint). Replacing the head unit (which I'm reluctant to do) disables the little screen, and from what I've seen bluetooth will only play out of a couple of speakers. I've also seen the GROM Aux kit linked however some of the reviews for that are fairly negative - including that it also only plays from a couple of speakers.

The iSimple IS32 (a hard-wired FM modulater) doesn't look too bad, however I'd like to avoid lowered sound quality if possible.

2005 LX model, if it matters.

As an aside I may replace the speakers, but I've no interest in adding a 'woofer.

KJ-6G75
14-03-2016, 12:57 PM
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Sorry, didn't see the edit to your post

Red Valdez
14-03-2016, 03:49 PM
You can get an iPod adapter from the States but it's functionality is a bit limited. I just have an iPod Classic on shuffle. Screen doesn't display any useful info so it's painful to run any other way imo.

The centre console screen still works with an aftermarket headunit, but it just shows 'Com Error'. What one clever forum user did was extend the factory wiring loom and mount the factory headunit in the boot (albeit turned off) so no com error displayed on the screen.

MadMax
14-03-2016, 06:40 PM
2005 LX model, if it matters.

It matters. Things like ipod, bluetooth connectivity are now common in current models but a retrofit to an 'ancient' 2005 car without is difficult. (*)
Try to get a good quality FM transmitter, if they exist, or put those features at the top of your list next time you go car hunting.
Replacing the head unit with something not from 2005 with the features you want is a solution worth reconsidering. Your stock speakers will sound better too, due to the better equalizer capabilities of a modern unit.

There are plenty of automotive audiophile forums around where you can further your knowledge.

(*) Hoping someone proves this wrong though.

Red Valdez
14-03-2016, 07:35 PM
No I agree with you Max. My GT has bluetooth factory and the manual doesn't even make reference to Android or iPhone - because they hadn't been created at that point!!

Lock
15-03-2016, 06:08 PM
Red Valdez, could you be more specific regarding the ipod adapter? Do you use one personally, and if so which? Does it play through all speakers? I've also got an iPod classic and have always just used it on shuffle.

Edit: Found it in your personal thread (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-2012-GENUINE-MITSUBISHI-GALANT-MP3-IPOD-ADAPTER-INTERFACE-KIT-MZ607411EX-/370610063858?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item564a14c9f2&vxp=mtr).

Red Valdez
15-03-2016, 08:15 PM
I haven't checked the model number but it looks the same as the adapter I use. Sound quality is great. Goes through all speakers just like radio/CD.

Lock
16-03-2016, 07:16 AM
Thanks for that, I've ordered one. Luckily there's an ebayer who onsells dealer non-returnable stock who's selling them for a small fraction of the price that everywhere else is charging (97AUD delivered vs ~330AUD).

Shadow565
16-03-2016, 09:02 AM
Thanks for that, I've ordered one. Luckily there's an ebayer who onsells dealer non-returnable stock who's selling them for a small fraction of the price that everywhere else is charging (97AUD delivered vs ~330AUD).

I'd love a link to that, i've been interested in these but the price drove me away

Shadow565
16-03-2016, 09:08 AM
Did a quick ebay search and came back with this:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AUX-3-5mm-Male-to-30Pin-Female-Dock-Adapter-Cable-for-Samsung-HTC-LG-Sony-Black-/301783131568?hash=item4643ad25b0:g:1I0AAOSw~bFWMwn S

Which converts the 30pin iPod connector into a AUX 3.5mm Jack, which is the easiest way to get AUX input in the car.
Another internet tread mentioned you can splice into the audio lines in the adapter cable and solder or crimp a AUX cable onto it, but thats too much work and in some cases too confusing for most people.

Red Valdez
16-03-2016, 03:41 PM
That's a very nifty find - I'd be curious to try it for shits and giggles.

One perk with the factory iPod adapter that I should probably mention is that it keeps the thing charged too. I haven't taken my iPod out of my glovebox in months.

Shadow565
16-03-2016, 04:31 PM
That's a very nifty find - I'd be curious to try it for shits and giggles.

I'd love to know if it works.
Is there a actual iPod setting on the Headunit?, or does it go into a mod when it detects the device playing music? how does it work?

Lock
16-03-2016, 07:31 PM
Shadow, this here's (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-IPOD-INTEGRATION-KIT-GALANT-ECLIPSE-ENDEAVOR-MITSUBISHI-MZ607411EX-04-12-OEM-/262336300591?hash=item3d1476462f:g:O-wAAOxyfpJSZKPL) the OEM kit for ~97 AUD that I just bought.

Shadow565
16-03-2016, 07:32 PM
Shadow, this here's (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-IPOD-INTEGRATION-KIT-GALANT-ECLIPSE-ENDEAVOR-MITSUBISHI-MZ607411EX-04-12-OEM-/262336300591?hash=item3d1476462f:g:O-wAAOxyfpJSZKPL) the OEM kit for ~97 AUD that I just bought.

Cheers, searching Galant ipod only came back with the 300$ OEM one.

Red Valdez
16-03-2016, 07:39 PM
Is there a actual iPod setting on the Headunit?, or does it go into a mod when it detects the device playing music? how does it work?
It shows up as 'CD2' - i.e. a secondary CD stacker. I think each album shows up as a separate 'CD' - so if you skip disk you're actually skipping to the next album. The only issue is that there's no labels so you have absolutely no idea what you're listening to. Hence why I just have it set to shuffle.

If you're really curious I'll take a video.

PerryP
16-03-2016, 08:49 PM
If you're really curious I'll take a video.

Please do! I've also been looking at doing this for a while, so I would love to see how it works

Red Valdez
17-03-2016, 03:57 PM
Don't forget to select 720p or 1080p so you can actually see what's going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Y-jZUuAI0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Y-jZUuAI0

DCSVRX
18-03-2016, 02:52 PM
If anyone else is planning on ordering one I'm happy to split shipping costs?

Red Valdez
18-03-2016, 05:22 PM
For what it's worth I've checked the box mine came in and the part number is MZ607411EX. There's also reference to V-900IP-U on the box. So same codes as the unit linked to at the start of the thread.

Shadow565
20-03-2016, 03:36 PM
Don't forget to select 720p or 1080p so you can actually see what's going on.

Such an odd work around, it must be based off the OEMs idea of a 12 stacker or something.

Presuming is follows the same pattern with the steering wheel controls?

Red Valdez
20-03-2016, 03:39 PM
Dunno, I only ever use volume up/down and next/previous track, both of which work as expected.

Shadow565
30-03-2016, 09:25 PM
So i've been doing some searching around and i came around to a interesting connector type.

13 Pin Din Male (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=13+pin+din+male&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjLpeeHvujLAhXFE5QKHfyPAMEQ_AUIBygB&biw=1600&bih=766)

Which seems to share the same connector type as the 380 OEM Headunit and Kenwood Headunits, These are just some quick results of searching and presuming the 380s don't have something like encoding or a particular control/audio setup they should be compatible.
They both use 13 Pin Din connectors which seems to be a common Headunit plug probably because iPods blew up in popularity around 07/08/09.

http://www.discountcarstereo.com/images/P/a2d-knw_m.jpg
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/A2D-KNW.html

http://www.discountcarstereo.com/images/P/aai-kenw_m.jpg
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/AAi-KNW.html

http://www.discountcarstereo.com/images/P/iL-knw_m.jpg
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/iL-KNW.html

http://www.discountcarstereo.com/images/P/3.5-knw_m.jpg
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/3.5-KNW.html

Shadow565
30-03-2016, 09:30 PM
Quick update:
Just spent 14$ on both a 13-pin to RCA and a 13-Pin to 3.5/AUX cable.
So i'll be able to give an answer in the 20ish days they will take to get here.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/401024450670

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/331575087074

PerryP
31-03-2016, 09:06 PM
Potentially exciting news!
Will be waiting eagerly for the next "20ish" days to see how they work out for ya!

380_BLACK_VRX
01-04-2016, 07:03 PM
I could not wait to see if it works. I ordered a aux cord as well

deean
05-04-2016, 09:47 PM
Adapters sold online from Grom audio work perfectly with the mitsubishi 380 when using their "MITS02A1" cable. I installed the Aux1 adapter a few weeks ago into my 380 and haven't had a single issue.

Aux1 Adapter:
http://gromaudio.com/store/aux1_adapters/mitsubishi_98-12_auxiliary_input_adapter_kit.html

380 Compatible adapters:
http://gromaudio.com/store/all-mits02.html

Shadow565
06-04-2016, 06:54 PM
Aux1 Adapter:
http://gromaudio.com/store/aux1_adapters/mitsubishi_98-12_auxiliary_input_adapter_kit.html


Seen that around didn't think that would be a 100% chance might consider buying that after getting these cables, ETA is the 20th for both give or take.
Good find though!

Shadow565
07-04-2016, 04:21 PM
Sadly the 13 pin to AUX didn't work, fits perfect but the headunit doesn't allow input at all, presuming it has to drop into that CD2 mode like the iPod does.

PerryP
07-04-2016, 10:09 PM
Sadly the 13 pin to AUX didn't work, fits perfect but the headunit doesn't allow input at all, presuming it has to drop into that CD2 mode like the iPod does.

Hold down button 1 and button 6 together on the CD stacker. It should enter AUX mode when you do. See if the AUX works then.

Shadow565
08-04-2016, 07:35 AM
Hold down button 1 and button 6 together on the CD stacker. It should enter AUX mode when you do. See if the AUX works then.

Cheers, i'll give that a try.

Shadow565
08-04-2016, 04:15 PM
No good, car wont go into AUX mode at all.
Am I missing something?

PerryP
08-04-2016, 05:05 PM
No good, car wont go into AUX mode at all.
Am I missing something?
My mistake. Turn the accessories on (this works with car turned on too).
Then turn the radio off (push volume button)
THEN hold buttons 1 and 6, and turn radio on while still holding the buttons.

Just tried it then in mine, and it turns on straight to the AUX function. I don't have an AUX cable to see if it works, but yeah. Thats how you get into the AUX function.
Not sure if it works if you the base model with a clock where the mutli function display usually is, but it might. Definitely goes into AUX mode with the models that have multi function display.

Shadow565
09-04-2016, 04:13 PM
Well didn't work in AUX mode, no audio came through at all.
There must be something like a ground or feedback the headunit has to receive before it will play audio.

Madmagna
11-04-2016, 06:01 AM
If you have the base single disk unit then it will not work, only works with the integrated 6 stacker

deean
11-04-2016, 07:17 PM
AUX mode never seemed to do anything for me. Once your cable/device is connected you should be able to press the CD button and cycle between CD1 and CD2. CD2 should be your aux cable.

Shadow565
11-04-2016, 09:10 PM
If you have the base single disk unit then it will not work, only works with the integrated 6 stacker

I have the 6 stacker, GT Model.


AUX mode never seemed to do anything for me. Once your cable/device is connected you should be able to press the CD button and cycle between CD1 and CD2. CD2 should be your aux cable.

Yeah, once connected it wouldn't switch to CD2 at all.

380_BLACK_VRX
20-04-2016, 07:54 PM
I think the wires are connected to the wrong pins. I think we need to have wires connected to pins 1, 2 & 4. This is not the way they are connected on the adapter. I am going to dismantle the plug and re solder the wires and see how it goes.

380_BLACK_VRX
23-04-2016, 09:42 AM
Ok so just connecting to the left right and ground inputs will not work.
The melbus system will not let you just hack into it without the correct communication with the system.

ocnav
24-04-2016, 11:28 AM
Just my two cents if it adds anything - I did what deean did. The GROM unit has been a blessing.
Bought it from here: http://www.cushieaudio.com.au/mitsubishi-aux1.html

The only problem I have with it is sometimes when I'm listening to music with just the ignition on, before I start the engine I have to turn the audio off. Simple enough to do. Otherwise my car won't recognise CD2/AUX input once the engine is on. In which case I have to disconnect then reconnect the 'data cable' from the 'interface box'.

And I have to double press the CD button to switch to CD2. The holding the buttons 1 and 6 thing doesn't work for me.

Shadow565
28-04-2016, 04:36 PM
The melbus system will not let you just hack into it without the correct communication with the system.

Was hoping that wasn't the case, oh well GROM unit here i come

deean
28-04-2016, 06:45 PM
Contacted Grom Audio about the issue you just mentioned, same thing happens to me. They suggested to try connect the yellow power wire to a different 12v source. Haven't gotten around to trying yet but its worth a try.. 12v accessory socket maybe??

380_BLACK_VRX
28-04-2016, 09:32 PM
Just my two cents if it adds anything - I did what deean did. The GROM unit has been a blessing.
Bought it from here: http://www.cushieaudio.com.au/mitsubishi-aux1.html

The only problem I have with it is sometimes when I'm listening to music with just the ignition on, before I start the engine I have to turn the audio off. Simple enough to do. Otherwise my car won't recognise CD2/AUX input once the engine is on. In which case I have to disconnect then reconnect the 'data cable' from the 'interface box'.

And I have to double press the CD button to switch to CD2. The holding the buttons 1 and 6 thing doesn't work for me.


You are having this issue because of the melbus system and the grom unit not talking the right code with it. It will disconnect the source. No different power source will change this.

Melbus system needs to recognise the unit to allow access to the system and needs to communicate to allow input.