Hi Guys

I’m new here

I just bought myself a TE not long ago and happened to be at Carline Exhausts the other day picking up a mates car, and saw that they do CAI,

I know that due to my car containing a MAF/MAS sensor, the air flow sensor unit must be relocated to the front bumper. I was told by the guy there, not to have the cold air induction done, because due to the relocation, “apparently” some customers have complained that water from the road entering their air filters, has caused their magnas to stall etc. What I would like to know is how much of this is true? Have any of u guys had this prob? I was told to go for a panel filter instead. :confused:

You'll need an Oval pod with the CAI to suit the MAS/MAS sensor for a start - most people use a K&N filter.

Further to this, just about any car will have problems if too much water gets into the CAI system... just stay away from deep puddles etc.

Tru

Thanx Ralliart-AKKO

I mainly wanted to know if anyone has had any probs of this nature really....cuz the guy at carline just wont do the CAI on my car...guess i'll have to take it to RPW

why does the MAS have to be exactly where the intake is? cos for a flow in a tube m(in)=m(out), so it shouldnt make any difference if the MAS is at the start or the end of the tude, right?

scrap RPW mate... look up THsmoker.. he has a kit for sale for HALf the price of RPW's!

why does the MAS have to be exactly where the intake is? cos for a flow in a tube m(in)=m(out), so it shouldnt make any difference if the MAS is at the start or the end of the tude, right?

good question, i saw a couple of mitsu's CAI from the US, and all of them are just an extension pipe from MAF sensor onwards and using round pod filter at the end of it, and no one seems to have a problem.

is this oval filter for real or just another marketing bluff from K&N
:confused:

I understand where your coming from

Its got something to do with the way/motion that the air flows once it has passed through the filter.

RPW - "The reasoning behind this is the honeycombed section requires the air to be very straight and clean in order to read correctly. A pod filter is cone shaped and instead, causes a swirling action which confuses the pod filter. Additionally many of the adapters fitted to the MAF / MAS sensor is square and cuts off some of honeycombed section in order to bolt on the round pod filter." - RPW

Hey Choonga

Have you actually got TH Smoker's CAI installed in your ride? cuz Tiphareth had written a thread, about his car konking out since TH Smokers CAI Install. :confused:
mite be the case of not installin the rite pod filter.

I dunno :confused:

Yeh ur rite RPW is a rip...they charging ~$450 for their CAI Kit!!!

I mite check out TH Smokers CAI Kit

i haven't actually got it in yet.. but should have it in in a couple of weeks

are RPW's CAI kit legal?

RPW - "...A pod filter is cone shaped and instead, causes a swirling action which confuses the pod filter. ... - RPW

pod filter causes a swirling action which confuses the pod filter... MAF/MAS they mean?

I think wat RPW actually means is that

"The swirling action caused by the air flowing through the pod filter confuses the MAS/MAF sys."

I reckon you would need to go with the K&N Pod designed to suit the MAS/MAF sensor. If the common garden variety one did the job, why would they bother making one especially for our vehicle?
A good article on the pod filter can be found at www.fastmagna.com in the Tech Tips section.

what about this for another idea....

not sure what under the bonnet of a magna looks like but if its what i thinking....

put the battery in the boot.....
make up an aluminium box under the bonnet where the battery once was......... have it sealed.....maybe drill a couple of holes in the bottom so it doesnt pressurize.. or leave it sealded if u want it pressurized. put the pod filter into there and run a nice pipe/ducting to cold air, behind the headlight or somewhere behind the bumper......
i'm sure this would be alot better then having the pod filter 6 inchs off the ground. if done properly it would look pretty nice under the bonnet too or paint it black to try and give it a stock look

:stoopid:

that sounds like a good idea, might try that. now i just have to reposition teh battery and fuse for my amps in the boot. dunno how to do hat though.

i dont know if u can do this but.... where your battery is at the moment.. get a distrbution box... so the wire from the alternator, the fuse block and the wire to your amps all plug into it... but have a fused distribution box....
then the power wire that u have already ran for your amps in the boot provided it is at least 4 guage just hook that straight to the battery which u will put into the boot.. and then run wire from the battery into another fused distro box and take the power to run your amps from that.

i'm not sure if doing this is possible... might need higher rating wires or sh*t? but it should work.. also u need a battery box or a sealed battery...
but this would be by far a better setup for a cold air induction setup then the K&N one

build a aluminium box under the bonnet and have a bonnet vent feeding straight into it..with rubber/silicon sealing it at the top where it joins the bonnet when it closed. or have it sealed and tubing running to the front bar.

induction sound should be sweet... as it will resonate within the aluminium box