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SLO3L
16-10-2004, 12:35 PM
The ones I've got now are a bit old so its time for some new ones, what do you guys reccommend?

SARRAS
16-10-2004, 12:56 PM
Narva Plus 50s - fit straight in - no heat problems

Mad iX
16-10-2004, 04:54 PM
Maybe a stupid question, but what kind of lights do the Magnas use? I'm confused by H1, H2, etc.

Ralliart-AKKO
16-10-2004, 05:31 PM
PIAA globes are good but don't expect them to be cheap!!!

HENDO TJ02
16-10-2004, 08:04 PM
i've got "artic blue" and swear by them. they give a very white and bright light. and have no heat problems either. around $30 bucks a set by memory. got them in my high beams 2 and made an unbelievable difference. all depends on how much u drive out of town.

SARRAS
16-10-2004, 09:01 PM
Maybe a stupid question, but what kind of lights do the Magnas use? I'm confused by H1, H2, etc.

For the square eyes you need one H4 and 1 H1 for each side I believe - and its 1 each of H1 and H7 for the Parabolics I think - can someone confirm / second?

Mad iX
17-10-2004, 11:29 AM
For the square eyes you need one H4 and 1 H1 for each side I believe - and its 1 each of H1 and H7 for the Parabolics I think - can someone confirm / second?

From a forum search, that seems to be correct.
Does "H?" refer to the size of the globe or the connection type?
eg. Is an H1 globe for a magna the same as H1 globes in all other cars?

I think i might have to take out the globes from my magna and have a look at autobarn to get a better idea.

Redav
18-10-2004, 12:14 PM
Narva Plus 50s - fit straight in - no heat problems
They're the ones I put in the other day. Didn't notice any difference in lighting at all.

Me007
19-10-2004, 09:57 AM
In my sports with Parabolics i put in 120watt highs and 90/110 watt low beams. you will not have current draw problems as it is still only at 10amps (for 120 watts) and no heat problems as you have glass fronts. Heat is only an issue with plastic lenses like the TL and my pajero.

Redav
19-10-2004, 10:04 AM
In my sports with Parabolics i put in 120watt highs and 90/110 watt low beams. you will not have current draw problems as it is still only at 10amps (for 120 watts) and no heat problems as you have glass fronts. Heat is only an issue with plastic lenses like the TL and my pajero.
I seem to recall that parabolics are polycarbonate i.e. plastic. They will discolour or deterioate with increased heat / light. Now, I'm sure that on coming people love the fact that your lights are possibly blinding them as they probably think your high beams are on. How much of a difference did they make to the illumination of the road?

kewlsolara
19-10-2004, 11:50 AM
I seem to recall that parabolics are polycarbonate i.e. plastic. They will discolour or deterioate with increased heat / light. Now, I'm sure that on coming people love the fact that your lights are possibly blinding them as they probably think your high beams are on. How much of a difference did they make to the illumination of the road?

One Piece Parabolics have polycarbonate Lense. ( TJ onwards I suppose i.e. Sports, VR-X and Verada's)

2 Piece Parabolics (without indicator) have glass lense. (TE- TH Verada's mostly)

SiNERGY
23-10-2004, 05:32 PM
Go the HID option :)

It's more expensive initially but so much better in the long run;
1. They take less power. 35w
2. Much better illumination and depth of illumination
3. Last Longer (if used 3hrs per day they should last 10years)
4. Less heat than regular bulbs
5. Nicer colour

I can get sets soon for the magna, I'm getting a set installed on my VRX soon. I'll have pics up soon :)

Me007
24-10-2004, 01:32 PM
Yes i had two piece units that were glass. The difference was very noticeable on the road and most people did not have a problem as long as your lights are adjusted correctly. The HID are good but yes they are expensive.

FamilyWagon
25-10-2004, 07:45 PM
I would recomend the Narva Plus 50s. They up the output by 50% but dont use any more power. Have them in my KH wagon and they are great.

I upgraded the bulbs in my old KS Wagon to 110/90 headlights and no, there were no heat problems with the lens but i burnt out a light switch and started to melt the wiring after long periods of use. I took it to the auto elec and he said it was all due to the extra current draw. He replaced the switch and put in a relay to provide the proper power needed to the bulbs.

Have looked at the HID option but people have talked me out of it because the lenses arnt setup to reflect the light from HID bulbs therefor not giving you the right beam spread which could be dangerous if they are shining at oncomming traffic.

heathyoung
26-10-2004, 07:37 AM
SiNERGY - sorry to dissapoint you, but you won't fit HID's onto a VRX with parabolics - not without modification - two reasons... Even though you can get a H7 HID retrofit kit, the bulb holders will need to be modified to hold the HID bulb (due to the spacer that normally holds the H7 bulb being 'taller' than a plain H7 bulb, and secondly, the glare box on the parabolics fouls on the return wire - which requires a minimum of 5mm clearance from any metal as it is at up to 30,000V potential.

The first problem can be solved with some creative use of a metal paperclip wire, the second requires that the glare-box be modified - when I was messing around with this sort of conversion, I found that it was possible to do this without dissasembling the headlamp, using a hacksaw blade and carefully cutting out the middle of the glare box that fouls on the wire. Messy, and you do have to vacuum up the metal shavings from the inside, but doable.

If you do go this route, you need a HID conversion kit with the tip of the bulb painted with black heatproof paint, so as to not dazzle oncoming drivers with the hotspot (tip) of the bulb. It must have this, as without it it is completely unacceptable - been there, done that.

I have some shots of beam patterns - not too shabby, as a D2S in a properly mounted H7 application is almost identical, but brighter.

Even with the HID's though, you end up with the same crappy parabolic beam pattern, just brighter - no ecode step, and tons of hotspots. Another problem is that the glare that you normally get with a parabolic is now three times brighter - ouch.

If you want any more info on this, I can sort you out, with beamshots, etc. as I have tried just about every route to get HID onto a Magna easily - ended up retrofitting Audi TT projectors, and have *never* been pulled up for it - actually, no-one even gives it a second glance, it looks stock, and doesn't glare, is properly aimed, and isn't green or that horrible fake blue you see with the 'rice lights'.

I know I won't be popular here when I say that if you are serious about decent lighting, use the standard hella (non-parabolic) lights, with overwatt bulbs, and relays, and keep them properly aimed, and *clean*!

Cheers
Heath Young

SiNERGY
27-10-2004, 12:39 PM
awww I havent tried it yet but I'll post up my experiences.

They worked fine on all the other cars though.

heathyoung
28-10-2004, 06:40 AM
I attached a photo of a retrofitted H7 HID into a parabolic headlight - take a close look at the glare shield - it HAD to be modified, as the return wire actually fouls on the middle of the glare shield (the part that covers the TIP of the bulb).

The bulb will need to have black heatproof paint over the tip to avoid blinding oncoming drivers - since you can see the hotspot.

The beam pattern was OK from this - a lot of light upwards though (glare) and a fair bit of yellow/green light - compare this with the sharp cutoff and lovely colour of a projector (The Audi TT projector from my magna)

Cheers
Heath Young