hey there all new to this forum is there anyone out there with a japanese 1997 to 1999 diamante with the 3 litre GDI engine (gasoline directed injection)
i would really love to know about them they confuse me.
also if anyone has a model with the touch screen in the center consol do u know how to turn the tv on??
thanks

and if you can see i have a small front skirt and a rear spoiler that looks horrible is it possible to attach the vr-x style body kit to this model

whats wrong with that front lip? i like it! its different. keep it.

the only australian on this forum that would know anything about diamante's would be tbutcher seeming as he converted a TH to a diamante :cool:

we cant import diamante's under 15 year rule so no one has them in australia (unless its a personel import)

disagree, you'll find we have a few ppl from stateside are members here : Psshhwhat, and ezyrider4u, to name a few....

the stateside ppl have aussie magnas rebadged as diamantes.... so they not really the same.

hey there all new to this forum is there anyone out there with a japanese 1997 to 1999 diamante with the 3 litre GDI engine (gasoline directed injection)
i would really love to know about them they confuse me.
also if anyone has a model with the touch screen in the center consol do u know how to turn the tv on??
thanks

and if you can see i have a small front skirt and a rear spoiler that looks horrible is it possible to attach the vr-x style body kit to this model Welcome...
Yes I have all the goodies of the Diamante installed in my Aussie car...
Basically it is a Diamante... there is only about 1 piece of the Aussie Magna left :) well maybe 2 or 3..

Where do you live?

The TV is turned on via the button that says TV in the lower left corner...
Once you turn it on there is a button in the top left corner of the touch screen that toggles between TV/VCR...
The VCR imputs are in the centre console.. (under the "bomb bay" doors :D)
To tune the TV stations you have to press the Auto-M button under the tape deck..
This will do a search for any TV station that it can find...... (this also works for the Radio stations both AM/FM)
The problem you will have is that the screen is a NTSC display.. NOT PAL..
and also the TV stations (Im guessing you are in NZ) only broadccast in PAL..
you can manually tune in stations but you WILL NOT get a picture.. sound only.

There are a couple of options.. there is a company that sells OEM TV Converters.. these convert from NTSC-PAL and also PAL-NTSC .. the problem is that you have to get this conversion into the wiring between the brain (the big box in the boot) and the screen....
BUT you have to remember that you can only modify the TV image as all the other display options are also be displayed in NTSC...
So then you could instead add an additional Tuner and as long as it can output o NTSC.. you could plug it into the VCR Plug instead... (this is what I will end up doing.)
You will also need a FM shifter to get the Radio to work.. (if it was a direct import.. and not a locally sold car) .. this shifts the FM signal by 20Mhz.. meaning if you have a radio station that is normally on 105.3 it will now tune in on 85.3... The radios in the car only tune between 76 and 91 in think.

Anyway good luck and feel free to email me if you have any future questions...
Enjoy your stay at Aussie Magna and welcome.

Haydn

PS Is that the origional steering wheel?? or is it one from a Galant?
Check out my web page (click on my name then HomePage) for pics of my car... and my 20" Rims :D

Or do we have Veradas rebadged as Diamantes?? Or are they Magnas which look like Veradas but were rebadge as Diamantes? All I know we got the short end of the stick on this deal, heck we got a lower end hybrid!!!!!! :cry:

If the cars which were imported here to the US were half as sharp as that Japanese version shown at the beginning of this thread or for that matter had all the different options and models as you folks have in AUS, these cars would have been able to compete and sold a lot better than they did. :sook:

The US had both Australia and Japan as sources for Diamantes. I can't remember if it was seperated by 2nd gen and 3rd gen though. Japanese Diamantes are better than our Veradas. I think it's parallel importing that keeps them out.


hey there all new to this forum is there anyone out there with a japanese 1997 to 1999 diamante with the 3 litre GDI engine (gasoline directed injection)
Oh, the GDI engine won't work very well here. We have too much sulphur in our fuels and it doesn't agree with them. Get the Mivec if you're after a Diamante.

tahnkyou all for the info to date.

every bit helps.
well i live in new zealand if any were wondering. now i must say this my old diamante that i had a 1995 was a three liter mivec and this new three liter GDI is actually faster. i sold my old one to my friend and we have had a few drags. and this new one is a really nice car.
i thought mivec was alot more powerfull but the GDI i have really moves as well. and i think some of you guys are confused about the diamante. i was in australia a couple of weeks ago and your magna is very much similar to our diamante. i had one on rent and the rental car diamante is so much similar to your rental magna of the same year someone who wouldnt notice the difference. apart from the badge.

well i live in new zealand if any were wondering. now i must say this my old diamante that i had a 1995 was a three liter mivec and this new three liter GDI is actually faster. i sold my old one to my friend and we have had a few drags. and this new one is a really nice car.
Interesting. Wonder if there was a weight difference. I think NZ fuels are better than OZ crap. Ever taken it to the drags? I know of a 30M owner over there who pulled a flat 15 with his. Pitty they never came as manuals. He also pulled 147kW at the wheels.


i thought mivec was alot more powerfull but the GDI i have really moves as well. and i think some of you guys are confused about the diamante. i was in australia a couple of weeks ago and your magna is very much similar to our diamante. i had one on rent and the rental car diamante is so much similar to your rental magna of the same year someone who wouldnt notice the difference. apart from the badge.
Yes, they are similar. I guess it depends on the origin and model of the Diamante. I know the Diamante I sat in was definately a beefed up version of our Veradas.

Oh, the GDI engine won't work very well here. We have too much sulphur in our fuels and it doesn't agree with them. Get the Mivec if you're after a Diamante.

Well thats changeing soon, under some agreement thing they have to lower the level of sulphur in fuel so that it isnt as bad for the enviroment and if you ran it on prenium unleaded it will run beacause prenium has lower sulpher levels

mine pulls 144 or something like that at the wheels. its intersestin car really sluggish when it takes off but it loves third gear and thats where i seem to beat everyone. then you hit forth and it keeps accelerating then fifth and its a wee bit fast for my comfort zone so havent pushed it above there but thats fast enough

interesting, most magna owners here would agree our kill gear is 2nd gear? i kno i'll pull away in 2nd better then any other gear in my car (gooo the manual style driving with an auto box, who needs a clutch!)

yer my pull away gear is definately third. its great. but i got the 5 speed auto tiptronic.
what do u guys mainly have across the ditch

Well we guys here have a variety of boxes, 5spd manual, 4spd auto and semi-autos, and 5spd semi-autos....


Do you know what the torque is on the GDI engine?

gday swiggs, good to hear from the crazy land of sheep, rugby and bungy!!! just for the record i have a 3.5L Manual exec... its light and it gets along quite nicely! (if you want references i'll put you over to my mate in his GenIII SS ute, poor bugger :badgrin: )

the jap spec D's and Veradas(/US D's) share the same basic design but have some glaring differences (respectively) like:
suspension (double wishbone verse McPherson Strut),
engines (2.5, 3 & 3.5L GDI & Mivec DOHCs vs our pooey SOHC 3 & 3.5's)
brake sizes,
interior accessories (like TV's, mirrors, seats etc)
AWD drivetrains share little (ours a mongrel bred bitsa from EVO's and yours mostly unique design, according to MMAL)

(oh all this is for '95/'96 "gen 3" models)

the Jap spec engines (from most sources)
2.5 GDI DOHC 147kW @ 6000rpm 250Nm @ 3500 cr 10.5:1
3.0 GDI DOHC 176kW @ 5750rpm 304Nm @ 3500 cr 11:1
3.0 MIVEC DOHC 198kW @ 7000rpm 301Nm @ 4500 cr 10:1
3.5 DOHC (?? somewhere this exists but i can't find it :confused: , maybe it only came in the proudia)

our engines (most recent of each)
3.0 SOHC 140kW @ 5500rpm 255Nm @ ?
3.5 SOHC 155kW @ 5250rpm 316Nm @ ?
3.5 SOHC Spo 163kW @ 5200rpm 317Nm @ 4500rpm
3.5 SOHC Ral 180kW @ 5500rpm 333Nm @ ?

sorry about the Torque missing on our cars.... i can't seem to find good sources for them!

I'm guessing your GDI has a boot load of torque down low compared to the MIVEC that you used to own, try racing your mate again but tell him not to drop below 5000rpm!! or where ever the MIVEC kicks in!! (use tippy in manual if auto won't do it!) I'll be you get a bit of a roasting then!

a boot load of tourque yer it does. thats why the boot is sagging a bit on the low side i think. is there any simple way to raise the rear up a bit from its sag.
the thing was yer the GDI redlines at 6200 and it a monster from early on the mivec i used to have was fun up high like you said. but the GDI is good for power because i really dont want to be revving the car up at every stop to have some fun. but when the GDI is pushed through the revs it really goes.
Quite interesting ion the power of these veichles.

ill go for another drag down the molsworth soon and tell you how the GDI vs MIVEC goes

gday swiggs, good to hear from the crazy land of sheep, rugby and bungy!!!
Agreed. I've been trying to get a few owners from NZ on to here.


the Jap spec engines (from most sources)
2.5 GDI DOHC 147kW @ 6000rpm 250Nm @ 3500 cr 10.5:1
3.0 GDI DOHC 176kW @ 5750rpm 304Nm @ 3500 cr 11:1
3.0 MIVEC DOHC 198kW @ 7000rpm 301Nm @ 4500 cr 10:1
3.5 DOHC (?? somewhere this exists but i can't find it :confused: , maybe it only came in the proudia)
It comes in the Proudia and Debonair. There's also a Hyundai that uses it. It's 191kW and 324Nm. I believe the Mivec 3.5 put out 194kW and 346Nm. Interestingly enough, the GDI 3.5 is rated at 162kW and 348Nm.

Take note that there's a 169kW DOHC 3.0 with 286Nm of torque.

well this is a 100% kiwi blooded member hello all and cant wait till the bledislode series starts again. no offence sorry
yer well im not much of a tec person but like to know about it.
and it seems that the sohc is less powerfull than the doch then what is the reasons for not using the doch in every engine and i noticed all the new D's we are getting here are now SOHC.
is DOCH not as good

and it seems that the sohc is less powerfull than the doch then what is the reasons for not using the doch in every engine and i noticed all the new D's we are getting here are now SOHC.
is DOCH not as good
Yeah, when compared to DOHC, it sucks. It would be due to the economics of tooling, existing infrastructure and MMAL's in ability to get new technoligy. Actually, it's quite old now. We're 10 years behind. So, as your Diamante's come from here, you get shafted too.

haha, swiggs, you hear that the bledisloe next year will be three games (instead of two) so we'll have a real winner (which i'll be the wallabies anyway)....

back to cars.... The SOHC have some advantages in Aus as they work better on ****ty ULP fuel (not that DOHC can't be made to work, but its advantages are less), also the torque in the low to mid range is as good or higher in the SOHC engines (from the torque curves i've seen over the time)... and as Redav said, development costs are lower, as are things like spares parts and servicing.

Oh, and when i stated those engines (Redav) i was trying to confine to TE+ Magna/D's... i think there was a DOHC 6G74 in the D's, but from the years of searching i've never found a 6G74 MIVEC originally in a D. :doubt: i'll keep searching though :)

Oh, and when i stated those engines (Redav) i was trying to confine to TE+ Magna/D's... i think there was a DOHC 6G74 in the D's, but from the years of searching i've never found a 6G74 MIVEC originally in a D. :doubt: i'll keep searching though :)
Yeah, I figured as much. The Mivec 3.5 only ever popped up in the Evo Pajero and I'm pretty sure that Australia was only where a 3.5 popped up in a Magna. That site we know of only mentiones 3.0's and 2.5's in Diamantes. It's a pitty it doesn't mention any more recent years.

now you guys are getting tecnical.
first the rugby and it is more fair with three games but you aussies have no chance. go the men in black!!!!!!

anyway is my 3 liter a 6g72 or a 6g74 i dont remember and been a gdi does that have any real advantages to normal engines.
also i noticed i dont have a distributer r it is controled by a computer. is this normal to the other diamantes or is this possibly a GDI thing

If it's 3.0l it's 6G72, 3.5 is 6G74 ;)

hey just to let u know how i matched up with the mivec again my GDI still beats it.
i even drove the MIVEC to see if my driving style was better but it was conclusive. it seems that my car doesnt stop accelerating at all through any rev range or speed where the mseems to slow a bit at high speeds but its faster at take off