Hey all - My first post on this BB so be nice :)

Bought a 2001 TJ Executive Auto with 40,000K on it for 20K a month ago and I have been lurking and reading through all of the info I could find on the web, but still would love some advice.

Mods so far...
VRX Rear spoiler
Debadged
Audio mods

I need an idea of performance mods... are these worthwhile?

Exhaust - Lukey 2779 with hurricane extractors (apparently they make these for the Ralliart Magnas)
Panel Type air filter
Anything else that keeps the factory warranty?

There is pleanty planned for this car, I used to compete in Car Audio competitions, so a pretty serious system is planned, as well as parabolic headlights (ordered), clear side indicators, HID headlight conversion (if I get around to it)

I also need some wheels - have boring stock steelies :P So if anyone has some to sell I would be interested...

Cheers
Heath Young

Hey and welcome - I can vouch for the muffler change over!! however from memory I believe that the LR2779 is now some thing else LR5404 or something - basically it is the same muffler but it is a bolt off bolt on attachemtn with no welding needed!!

Apart from that - go 18's!! magnas need them!!

Manual

with those 18's your gonna need Lovell Super Lows springs :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: it would prolly look a hell of a lot better with some lowering gear ;)

hehe.. i donno bout those extractors you mentiond, cos i ve ever only heard pacemaker and RPW extractors :S

get the RPW ones :D worth ever cent of there price tag ;)
have you had a think about a pod?

get verada headlights ;) ill set u up on some,

Cheers, and welcome :D

Ben.
ben.****as@wycliffe.com.au
My Ride: http://www.wycliffe.com.au/private/bens_magna

Im very curious to see your HID conversion.

Your on the right track for mods, i do agree with Booya, when it comes to extractors, i allways reccomend RPW's which we stock also.

A pod is a better option than a panel in my opinion (im waiting for widows comment ;) ) However these do void new car warrantys. Although if you have a problem you can bolt on your old induction system and go back to your local dealer.

If you want to retain your new car warrany a panel filter is a nice way to go.

i got my car serviced few months back with the pod on... Mitsubishi didn't have a problem with it. I have kept my original panel filter though if i do have a problem (even though im sure half my other mods have killed the warranty anyway)

Most dealers have a policy

You can do anything up to the Cat, and anything up to the MAS Sensor.

so pods and mufflers are fine, im not sure on extractors, best to check with your mitsu dealer.

i do agree with Booya, when it comes to extractors, i allways reccomend RPW's which we stock also.
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Of course you will recommend the product that you stock and supply :badgrin:


hurricane extractors (apparently they make these for the Ralliart Magnas)


I dunno who told you hurricane makes extractors for the ralliart magna , hurricane are alright but Pacemaker are much better for the job better design and workmanship plus you can get them for about $400 on ebay.

Yeah HID kit would be interesting i was going to do this but im not sure how long im going to have my magna for and the highbeams are quick nice spotties so they will do me fornow just need to adjust my little driving lights to the side a bit more to spot those nasty roo's on the country roads

There is no way pacemaker headers are better than RPW's.

Pacemakers are just headers, that require modification to bolt up to the stock flex pipe. These are not HPC coated, but painted with head paint.

RPW are full length headers and include the tuned flex pipe and everything to bolt up to the cat. They are a much better design and will extract more power, especially in the higher rpm range.

In response to your comment widow, we stock both pacemaker headers and RPW extractors and I allways reccomend RPW's over any other based on their design.

Its up to the end user where they want to go to purchase the final product, we are not more expensive but most of the time well below the RRP. We sell products merely to cover website costs and keep Aussie Magna up and running. Just wanted to clear that one up :D

Pacemaker headers have gone up got $596 since June 1st however you will be able to find a couple on e-bay for around $400 until they are all sold.

There is no way pacemaker headers are better than RPW's.

Pacemakers are just headers, that require modification to bolt up to the stock flex pipe. These are not HPC coated, but painted with head paint.
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Here goes blake with his sales pitch , well im not quite sure what pacemakers you have but they should inferior to my set which bolt strait upto the stock system ARE HPC coated and all extractor's are headers! and what do you mean there not better then RPW's , pacemaker make headers for lots of different engines and they use CAD to make there stuff and do alot of research now unless RPW sends out for other to do it for them i cant see a little work shop capable of this

anyway these are you forums so you can do what you like i just dont like it when people are misinformed. So you can delete this post if you want.

The current range of pacemakers aren't HPC coated.

I know they have changed thier design 3 times over the last two years.

I sent the guy on ebay and asked him about his headers...
this what he said.

Crap he didnt include my sent question... and I m on a different computer but here is his response....

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are you headers cermamic coated?
Because I was told that HPC is cermaic coating?

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HPC is different to ceramic. HPC is a spray on coating on the outside I can get them Ceramic coated but it is very expensive to do that.

Trevor H
Online Performance Autos

ph 03 8801 0287
0401 037 947

www.onautos.com.au

sales@onautos.com.au
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So isnt HPC ceramic coating?

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HPC is heat proof coating. It is similar to ceramic but it is a spray on rubbery type coating. It just extends the life of the headers and stops everything around the headers from getting fried by the heat.

Trevor H
Online Performance Autos
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The place that did my muffler sell pacemakers and they said that it costs about $400 to get stuff ceramic coated inside and outside... but that then is the BEST finish for the headers.


Haydn

i got my car serviced few months back with the pod on... Mitsubishi didn't have a problem with it. I have kept my original panel filter though if i do have a problem (even though im sure half my other mods have killed the warranty anyway)

Oh yeah? Then my warranty is out the door and flying to Japan now with the number of mods I have.....



Anyway I have said it time and time again and I'll say it again,

Mitsu warranty are slightly different from other car manufacturers... They will warranty your car for the duration it spans in the contract or the remainder of the warranty... BUT if any parts that are found to be defective and is caused in part by the mods you DO, it will not cover it.. BUT if the defect is not linked to your mods.. they will cover it.. SIMPLE... :D

yeah.. i like that bout mitsubishi
nissan and subaru shit me that 1 mod (even muffler) and ur warranty is gone.

at least it shows that mitsubishi believes in their cars..

Hey arent the pacemaker extractors an interference design? and the RPW ones are not?

Hence why the RPW ones are a smoother flow going straight from 3 on each side to 1 at the cat.

Whereas the pacemakes ones go 3-2-1?

I dunno..just what I heard.

Anyway, the RPW ones will look similar to the ones I have (but I have a TR, so they will be slightly different...but same overall design..thats what Im getting at)
http://www.rpi.net.au/~jimmy82/magnapage/

Go to the Pics section and look for the pics called Underneath1 etc...

I havent used pacemaker...so I wont comment..but I will say the RPW ones are fantastic!

Woah - lots of replies here - I will quote and reply as I can...

>with those 18's your gonna need Lovell Super Lows springs it would prolly look a hell of a lot better with some lowering gear

18" diameter wheels are not legal for the executive unfortunatly without engineering certificate - certainly not insurable. NRMA states that you can go up one inch in diameter, and one inch in width from the standard size *for that model* - if I had a sports (with 17") I could, but stock size is 15". So 16" it is :P
As for lowering - drove a lowered car (silly low, cut springs) and it aint fun, though harder springs + shocks would be nice, looking at the whiteline suspension 'handling package' - anyone fit this yet?

>hehe.. i donno bout those extractors you mentiond, cos i ve ever only heard pacemaker and RPW extractors :S

I was told this by an exhaust guy my family has been using for the past 30 years, very reliable, knows his stuff well. Apparently the manufacturer claims this, maybe he has been mislead - I don't know.
Without changing chips or anything else, I have heard that extractors can sometimes lose power? I don't want this to happen...

>get the RPW ones worth ever cent of there price tag have you had a think about a pod?
RPW extractors - I like the sound of the ones for increasing the lowdown torque for autos - Pod filter... Had one on another car for 3 days untill I got off my @$$ and measured the intake air temperature - even with cold air intake, the temperatures at the traffic lights were about 75-80 degrees, lower on the open road, but... the standard airbox kept the intake temperature at about 40 degrees, and 30 degrees with cold air induction to the standard airbox. Bigger gains made with a panel filter and cold air induction than a pod, and not so noisy. I like how quiet the Magna is, makes a big change from the last car (Saab 900 turbo, 16psi boost, 3" exhaust - went through 3 auto gearboxes, 4 CV joints, holed a piston and part of an exhaust valve went through the turbo... quiet and reliable it wasn't!) - The performance is pretty nice on the Magnas, off-the-line torque is great compared to a low compression turbo engine - and no $hit-your-pants torque steer either :)

>get verada headlights ill set u up on some,
I have actually ordered some and am paying for them today...

>Im very curious to see your HID conversion.
I thought a few people would be - I have a contact in Germany via email who can get me the ballasts and D2S or D2R phillips bulbs relativly cheap (ie. $500 or so), and I have a machine shop who owes me some work :P The main problem is beam patterns - the sports/verada headlamps are MUCH better suited to conversion - with D2R bulbs (R is for reflector, cuts off parts of the beam with black paint) they should be OK, but long term plan is to use the Bi-Xenon projectors out of a BMW retrofitted into the sports headlamp as you *never* get the cutoff working as it should. Will be getting a single D2S and ballast in a week or two so I will update then...

Cheers
Heath Young

Just one question Heath...aren't HID lights illegal in australia?

or is it just NSW?

>Just one question Heath...aren't HID lights illegal in australia?

>or is it just NSW?

Short answer - Yes, Australia wide...

Long answer... Legal if certain conditions met... see below...

OK - the main problem with the HID conversions around the place is that they do not meet Australian Design Regulations (ADR's) in terms of glare and cutoff - but neither do many so-called driving lights that are sold all over the place.

Simply sticking a D2R bulb in a retrofit kit into a standard reflector will probably result in some serious glare issues - not to mention a defect notice for illegal headlights - for obvious reasons.

Any headlight conversion must be done with ADR specified inserts - whether it is something as simple as a sealed beam to H4 conversion, or in this case, a HID conversion. Headlights must comply with ADR 46/00... And the ADR is VOID if a non-specified bulb is fitted to the housing - this includes fitting a H4 80/100 bulb where a H4 55/60 would go - same bulb type, but the wattage is different.

Conversely, if you were to fit the HID headlight out of a BMW - you could do so as a retrofit legally as the projector fitted in the BMW is ADR'd to 46/00 with a D2S/D2R HID bulb fitted.

Also, fitting a driving light specified to 46/00 (eg Hella DE Xenon - http://www.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catalogue.pl?flcmd=preview&flmaint=2103) in place of the low beam light is legal, providing that it is aimed correctly, that a high beam filament and
parking light are still active - see http://www.hella.com/produktion/HellaPortal/WebSite/Internet_en/ProductsServices/ForDriversAccessories/DoubleHeadlamps/VWGolfIV/VWGolfIV.jsp for an example - the retrofit unit is a Hella DE in this case.

So what this boils down to is... Fit a D2R/D2S in a reflector that is not originally specified for them (this rules ALL HID conversion kits in Australia as being ILLEGAL) and you fail to meet 46/00 - so you have illegal headlights - but you also do if you fit higher wattage bulbs :P

What is legal is a retrofit of a reflector/bulb combination correctly fitted and aligned to a vehicle, whilst maintaining high/low/park beam functionality - ie. stick a BMW HID projector in, and you are legal...

Complicated isn't it :P

Cheers
Heath Young

OK - fill me in - WTF is HID lights??

Manual

OK - fill me in - WTF is HID lights??

Manual

High Intensity Discharge... it's an expensive light kit.. a few grand for the good ones.. but are so much brighter...

Cheers!!

anyway these are you forums so you can do what you like i just dont like it when people are misinformed. So you can delete this post if you want.
OWNED! ;)

Just sent off the payment for the verada headlights so they are the next mod now :)

Does anyone have a step-by-step guide to mounting them or is it a case of look-in-the-manual (RTFM) :)

Cheers
Heath Young

How much for your lights?
Haydn

$500 for the lights + brackets - seems to be the average price, there is a bit of demand for them it seems...

They sure look cool, hope they work as well (or better) than the standard headlights...

Magnas apparently were fitted with HID headlights as a factory option in Japan... Pity they aint legal here.

Cheers
Heath Young

Dosnt mean you cant use them :badgrin: