View Full Version : STOP!!! my brake upgrade!!
TZABOY
18-10-2004, 05:48 PM
Hey guys,
for ages i've wanted to do a brake upgrade on my TS and i knew i had to have huge disc's if i wanted it to be a show stopper for Auto Salon.
Now, i've seen a lot of people getting the AWD calipers and disc's. Now thats all well and good have a 2 spot caliper on 294mm disc's, but you know, the TZABOY magna just had to go one better than that. :cool:
I have recently purchased a front set of 3000GT 4 spot calipers. These calipers also have the famous word "MITSUBISHI" mounted in metal on them. I have painted them go fast red, and wet rubbed the signage back so "MITSUBISHI" is a shinny silver. I decided to get these instead of Brembo's or AP Racing calipers because of cost, and to keep the car genuine Mitsu.
I have order slotted discs from RDA which i should have by the end of the week. As i said i had to go a little better than the AWD setup with 294mm disc's, so as standard off the 3000GT i ordered 314mm discs to fill in the huge gap i have with my 18's
BTW, this will be a 'bolt on' mod for my TS, and as soon as pics come to hand i will post them.
Killbilly
18-10-2004, 06:30 PM
Awesome! Cant wait to see the results, might have to follow your lead ;)
GRDPuck
18-10-2004, 06:47 PM
Awesome! Cant wait to see the results, might have to follow your lead ;)
:stoopid: (Sorry Killbilly - You know what I mean.)
Asylum
18-10-2004, 06:58 PM
i was always wondering about this (surely there some more bolt-on upgrades for the magna) do u think this upgrade would work on a 3rd Gen?
jowet
18-10-2004, 07:25 PM
:D that is cool - almost did this but had already recieved all the AWD bits when it occurred to me - let us know how it goes. where did you find the calipers btw?
MadMik
19-10-2004, 09:52 AM
Jase let us see the pics as soon as you can and if you dont mind can you pm me the cost and supplier of the callipers, and cost from RDA for the discs same size as your getting.
A:flame:
Killbilly
19-10-2004, 10:04 AM
:stoopid: (Sorry Killbilly - You know what I mean.)
hahah it's cool ;)
RJL25
19-10-2004, 10:11 AM
always wondered this, if you upgrade the front brakes, but leave the rear brakes as is, wont that mean that because you have increased your brakeing power at the front but not the rear, your car is going to understeer more under brakes? Like with race cars for exampe, if they're car is too oversteery they send more brake bias to the front, if its understeery they send more to the back..?
wouldnt you need to upgrade your rear brakes to match the front to prevent this? just a thought
Redav
19-10-2004, 11:51 AM
wouldnt you need to upgrade your rear brakes to match the front to prevent this? just a thought
Seeing as though we don't race on race tracks, no, it's not a drama. You have to remember that the brake bias is 65-35.
revelstone2
19-10-2004, 12:44 PM
Seeing as though we don't race on race tracks, no, it's not a drama. You have to remember that the brake bias is 65-35.
Rear upgrade not really needed if the front is done.
As Redav said there is a bias for the front, also this is where the ABS with Electronic brake force distribution comes in.
The complete uprade is the best alternative but the next best thing is fronts only, as all people that have done it will say worth every cent.
RJL25
19-10-2004, 12:46 PM
ok so if your trail brakeing into a corner for example its not going to make a difference to what the car nromally does with regard to understeer/oversteer?
also, some of us would use it on the race track.. like me if i had the time or the money :D
TZABOY
19-10-2004, 07:02 PM
I was going to do the rear's as well, but just a little short on $$$ for now, but they'll be on early next year with 275mm rear disc's.
Brake place i'm getting the disc's from said i should have them by the end of the week, promise i'll put pics up asap!!!!
MadMik
20-10-2004, 08:14 PM
Front wheel drive vehicles tend more to understeer!! However with correct braking, weight transfer and driving line this can be minimised if not forgotten. But for brakes that big they'll set you for tight cornering provided correct gears are also selected along with throttle and braking techniques. There are a lot of aspects to consider..... :shock: braking should be before a corner not during
TZABOY
22-10-2004, 03:29 PM
Damm i just tried a trial run on an old hub i have and the calipers aren't quite "bolt on". but don't disspare, i have emailed away asking for the 3000GT bracket between the hub and the caliper to be sent to me as the magna one can only take a stock 275mm (i think) disc and i will have a 314mm disc.
hopefully he will give me good news on monday with his reply
mercury
22-10-2004, 03:41 PM
Front wheel drive vehicles tend more to understeer!! However with correct braking, weight transfer and driving line this can be minimised if not forgotten. But for brakes that big they'll set you for tight cornering provided correct gears are also selected along with throttle and braking techniques. There are a lot of aspects to consider..... :shock: braking should be before a corner not during
that is the problem i use to have. since i was driving an auto there was no way i could change gears (unless i drop to 2)
that made cornering always a nightmare, and that's when i realised i have to brake hard before the corner and floor it across. but gearing is really essential. as it provides engine braking. sorta stops the momemtum. (in reverse to the floating feeling on a standard auto car)
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