Hey Guys

I gotta TE Magna which is currently stock (except for exhaust) and i'm thinkin of purchasing some springs. I dont really have time rite now to shop round so i wana know:

How much it would set me bak (including installation)?
Where i can get the best deal?
What brand shud i go for (lovells or Kings)??
Shud i get Superlows Rear and Lows on Front? or go just lows on both front and rear?

I'm in Perth BTW.

Thanks guys!

because of the front arch the front looks bigger. so dont go superlows on back and lows on front it will make the front look bigger then it would now...

lows all round would make it look good but also practical so you wont have to worry so much about driveways etc. if you dont car bout that , there are few poeple here wit superlows (choonga) do a quick search under lowered, lowered springs etc.

Hey Guys

I gotta TE Magna which is currently stock (except for exhaust) and i'm thinkin of purchasing some springs. I dont really have time rite now to shop round so i wana know:

How much it would set me bak (including installation)?
Where i can get the best deal?
What brand shud i go for (lovells or Kings)??
Shud i get Superlows Rear and Lows on Front? or go just lows on both front and rear?

I'm in Perth BTW.

Thanks guys!

Springs will set you back $240 for a set, installation will cost you about $200-$250, so ur looking at about $450-$500 all up to buy the springs and get them installed, installed as in drive your car in with the normal springs, drive it out with the lowered springs. You can reduce the install cost by removing the struts yourself, very easy, and taking just the struts into any suspension shop along with the lowered springs and simply telling them to swap the springs over.

As far as getting the best deal goes just shop around, don't rush into it cos theres always going to be plenty of springs around.

Kings springs seem to be the trusted brand, although some ppl disagree. Don't know a great deal about lovells except they're blue
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As far as heights go, if your after a car thats still very driveable but looks alot nicer yet the wheels arent up in the arches then go 40 mm all round, as stock shocks work fine with them, still smooths the bumps out nicely and the shocks wont bottom out.

If you go 60 mm some ppl may say you dont need new shocks but from my experience you do. I had 60 mm lowered springs in the front of my TF and the shocks loved to bottom out, which absolutely wrecked my bump stops aswell, very rough ride and just not cool.

Alot of ppl also say that 60 mm lowered springs at the front and 40 mm lowered springs at the back is a good way to go with 3rd gens. I did this as I didnt know any better, the car looked uneven (front way too low compared to the back), due to the height differences my oil dipstick reading was also off, and my car developed a shudder as soon as the 60 mm lowered front springs were in the car, quite a bad shudder to. I reckon if your on a tight budget and all you want to do is lower your car using the stock shocks, go 40 mm all round (ie: lows) as you wont have to worry about scraping that much, the ride is still nice and smooth and you can use stock shocks, 40 mm might not seem like a big drop but it will make a big difference to the way the car looks. Hope this helped.

you cant lower a car without throwing out the geometry of the suspention with spings alone.. its not going to handlle better... less body roll isn't handling better btw

Sorry mate but I have to disagree with you there.

You can improve handling as the vehicle will have better handling attrubites partly to the reduction of body roll enabling the vehicle to stay better balanced. This together with the vheicle having better traction as well.

Lowering the car will also lower the centre of gravity which in a stock magna can help more than people realise.

New springs at certainly a great start. Avoid the Pedders, they slap and sag, as I have found out recently my self. My rear ones sagged nearly 20mm and pedders did not want to know about them despite being only 12 months old.

I would highly reccommend replacing dampers, especially in a car that age as they will eventually leak and knock. In addition to this the damper rate will not match the rate of the springs.

Yes Kings are the most popular here, I get them for around $200 a set (front and rear), these are the low's variable rate which is another thing Pedders are not.

Another important thing to remember is to reset your lower control arm bushes by undoing the front bolt and rear nut, put weight on the suspension then tighten them back up again.

Yes Kings are the most popular here, I get them for around $200 a set (front and rear), these are the low's variable rate which is another thing Pedders are not.



I take it you mean you get Kings Lows - Front pair = $200 and Rear pair = $200....not a whole set (front and rear) = $200?? :confused:

No, i would say $200 for both as i got a quote from Kings themselves for $140 per set so id say if someone has a contact then $100 a pair is realistic.

You can reduce the install cost by removing the struts yourself, very easy, and taking just the struts into any suspension shop along with the lowered springs and simply telling them to swap the springs over.


How do u get to the suspension shop once u've ripped everything apart? :P

Ehh, sorry to hear that happen to ur car tho, I would cry :cry:

I take it you mean you get Kings Lows - Front pair = $200 and Rear pair = $200....not a whole set (front and rear) = $200?? :confused:

hey mate
ur in perth then tats great
contact blake i.e Aussiemagna and he'll organise u a set (4 springs) for about 240 including postage
as with installing contact Malcolm i.e Manual for installing
he does a brilliant job and will save u lots of money

as with which springs to go get superlows at front and lows at rear.. i have this combo along wioth alot of ppl and i have no problems with them at all!! looks sweet as well.
but still not low enoguh for me so im gettin them compressed soon

Another important thing to remember is to reset your lower control arm bushes by undoing the front bolt and rear nut, put weight on the suspension then tighten them back up again.[/QUOTE]
??? whats that help out mate???

i also read in a book you cant allign the front wheels is that right?? :confused:

1) Car handles better with 60mm front and 40mm back. Its not me just fooling myself. My friends drove my car and noticed a big improvment. There is a lot less body roll and the car seems to like going into corners a hell of a lot faster than it did before.

2) 60mm will scrape. Some harsh Speed humps and curbs are bad. Stay away from them or learn how to drive up them sideways.... Dont get me wrong, You still have plenty of clearance but its those harsh bumps that are poorly designed or in disrepair that will cause harm to at least your two hook things under you car.

3) 60mm is not enough. 60 mm is not enough. plain and simple.

4) The car is uneven. Sure it is but it looks better...stand from the front and look at it. it looks a lot better than not being lowered. If you can lower 60mm all around. People say it bottoms out.. but what would they know.. hehe it looks better!

i got mine installed for 170 including alignment. great get someone else to do it for free but if it goes wrong, whos to blame then? (not that it will.. but you never know).

I have had no problems since installing the springs on my tf, and im sure i wont have any in the future... but ask yourself do you really need it done?

Your going to get a stiffer firmer ride which looks better but will lose overall ride quality and the ability to go pretty much over any surface without thinking about scrapage or worse....

In perth it cost me 400 all up with installation and springs from blake. oh and in my opinion 40mm while a nice small improvement is not as good as 60mm... its amazing what 2cms does...

Just to clarify I get them for just under $200 a set. ie front left and right and rear left and right, 4 springs in all

I just did Doug TL VRS's second car, a second gen Verada, $650 for springs, GT Monroe Gas all 4 corners.

Just to clarify I get them for just under $200 a set. ie front left and right and rear left and right, 4 springs in all

I just did Doug TL VRS's second car, a second gen Verada, $650 for springs, GT Monroe Gas all 4 corners.

This thread has confused the hell outta me what to get now.....i already scrape ground (rear cannon muffler).....will i be happy with lows all over? i dont really feel like slowing down for every little bump.

New springs at certainly a great start. Avoid the Pedders, they slap and sag, as I have found out recently my self. My rear ones sagged nearly 20mm and pedders did not want to know about them despite being only 12 months old.


Madmagna, what Pedders stuff did u have? I have SportsRyder, whole package installed almost 2 years ago now. They don't sag yet at all. There is fair bit of bangning in the suspension, cos it's a -96 TE, so obviously bushings etc are worn out a bit. Magna suspension seems to bang even on some newer ones.

Other than that, it's always a good idea to change shocks when one lowers the car.

Hi all,
I just thought I'd add that I lowered my TF 2 inches (about 50mm) all-round with Dobson spring and haven't had any trouble with scraping or bottoming-out, etc, although the mudflaps do bend and scrape on steep up or down driveways, but they're only plastic so I don't care. Apart from the springs, the rest of the suspension is currently standard - but I didn't change the springs for the handling...just for the look! And it does look a lot better now...the drop makes the difference visually! I reckon I could lower it another 1 inch (75mm all up) but was told I'd need new shorter shocks for that, but there could be a new world of dramas with a drop that severe.
Hope this is able to help anyone out.

I have to agree with Killer. I know Pedders always cop a caning on this forum, but I've had SportsRyder coils for over 18 months now and they've been perfect - no sag and no slapping. I'm sure King Springs etc are good, but Pedders have been great for me. To get the car to sit flat (TH Sports) I went 40mm front and just on 50mm at the rear. I started on 40mm front and rear and had to go extra and the back after about a week.

I have to agree with Killer. I know Pedders always cop a caning on this forum, but I've had SportsRyder coils for over 18 months now and they've been perfect - no sag and no slapping. I'm sure King Springs etc are good, but Pedders have been great for me. To get the car to sit flat (TH Sports) I went 40mm front and just on 50mm at the rear. I started on 40mm front and rear and had to go extra and the back after about a week.

The rides been good so far but it will and i promise you ...will go. I had Pedders Sports Ryder done on my car 98 TF 3.0L V6 ,it was good for about 3 years then it was bottoming out and ripped the bump stops to bits. Still have the springs in a box for if i may need them. I ended up getting shelby sway bars front and rear, and a whiteline anti-lift kit, with the pedders strut brace. Once shocks had gone got KYB shocks and King Springs ( superlows front, lows rear). Once suspension settled in the rides firm as hell, hardly moves. The springs were a group buy, but the KYB's i picked up for $700-$750 cant remember which but well worth it. However if i had a little more money then it would have been KONI ADJUSTABLES FOR SURE.
Pedders were good but the rear looked lower, and heres a little tip pedders are made by Monroe :shock: they just paint it red and put on a sticker. And i'm not knocking pedders as i have a good mate who works for them, they were good i now have better.
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The rides been good so far but it will and i promise you ...will go. I had Pedders Sports Ryder done on my car 98 TF 3.0L V6 ,it was good for about 3 years then it was bottoming out and ripped the bump stops to bits. Still have the springs in a box for if i may need them. I ended up getting shelby sway bars front and rear, and a whiteline anti-lift kit, with the pedders strut brace. Once shocks had gone got KYB shocks and King Springs ( superlows front, lows rear). Once suspension settled in the rides firm as hell, hardly moves. The springs were a group buy, but the KYB's i picked up for $700-$750 cant remember which but well worth it. However if i had a little more money then it would have been KONI ADJUSTABLES FOR SURE.
Pedders were good but the rear looked lower, and heres a little tip pedders are made by Monroe :shock: they just paint it red and put on a sticker. And i'm not knocking pedders as i have a good mate who works for them, they were good i now have better.
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Thanks for the good, constructive feedback. I take your word and monitor the situation. Not really good if they only last for 3 years.....
Heh, no, Pedders are not the best, but not bad value for money. If it wasn't for money, I'd go monkey with Koni or Bilstein stuff. But... there is a mortgage to pay too.

Hey all - I was just wondering if anyone out there has had experience with pacemaker headers on their lowered cars?? I understand the pacey's hang a bit lower than the standard (or even other brands of headers). I did read someone on here (on another topic) state that pacemakers and superlows would not be a good combination - anyone tried the combination?? how did/do they go?

I'm on the verge of buying a set of pacey's and a redback exhaust, and lower springs and some other suspension mods will probably be the next mod. Since the general concesus out there is that 60mm looks swweeeet.... obviously i'm seriously considering going supa low (if I can with pacey's.

thanks.