hello, ke-kf, did any of you guys have any trouble fitting extractors, mate tells me that i may have to pull out the engine to fit the them, and is it a good estimate for 1k for the exhaust and 300$ for the extractors. 4inch chrome cannon and average metal piping...

disclaimer* havent bought the car yet, when finish hsc dads got 2 weeks off and ive been searching the carsales type sites etc, ive got the dosh up for it

on another issue anyone like my chances of getting an verada xi with leather for under 10k, auctions, cousins involved with sydney auctions...thanks

i got a 1997 verada xi of a mate for 10K but that was really nice of him considering it had only done 45,000 ull probably get one for that pricew at the auctions with 100+ on the odo

$1000 for the exhaust?!! get lost!

An exhaust is an exhaust, and changing the piping ain't all that much nor hard to do.

I don't know anything about extractors though, but i'm pretty sure no one has had to take their engine out when installing extractors.

And i got my Lukey muffler with 2.5" cat-back piping with mandrel bents for WAY UNDER $1k!

pull the engine out to fit extractors??!! :bowrofl: :bowrofl: i thinks someone's havin you on!! they bolt straight off and on. shouldnt take more than 1 and half hours max, by any exhaust joint that has a clue.

budget round $400 for the extractors (pacemakers), $200ish (depending on brand) for exhaust, around $200 for labour. you wont need to change the entire exhaust system as i'm assuming you're going cat-back (unless its rusted etc).

pull the engine out to fit extractors??!! :bowrofl: :bowrofl: i thinks someone's havin you on!! they bolt straight off and on. shouldnt take more than 1 and half hours max, by any exhaust joint that has a clue.

budget round $400 for the extractors (pacemakers), $200ish (depending on brand) for exhaust, around $200 for labour. you wont need to change the entire exhaust system as i'm assuming you're going cat-back (unless its rusted etc).
Incorrect.. They dont bolt on and off.. Well to the engine they do.. But they will need to weld the pacemakers to the flex pipe just before the Cat.

But yeah.. you wont need to remove the engine.. hahah

.. Well to the engine they do.. But they will need to weld the pacemakers to the flex pipe just before the Cat.


that's what i meant, i forgot to mention the last part......... but the point that "any exhaust joint that has a clue" should have covered that..... hehehe :D :nuts:

yeah i thought so, but i prefered to check it out before being right....i want to get the exhuast right from the extractors back, new cat and muffler etc... full exhaust

the whole system eh?...... how wide do you want the piping? i'm pretty sure 3rd gens have 2.25 inch piping (or was it 2.5?), but dont quote me on that. and the second question is do you want press bends or mandrel bends? cos mandrel cost more. and bear in mind, bigger is not better (for NA applications anyway). eg, dont get 4" piping unless you want to bolt a T88 to your block.....

yeah i thought so, but i prefered to check it out before being right....i want to get the exhuast right from the extractors back, new cat and muffler etc... full exhaustFull exhaust from extractors will cost you around 800 - 1000.. (including installation of extractors if you have them already)

Thats including your cat and flex pipes (the most expensive parts).. Each flex pipe costs between 60 - 100 and the cat around 250. Add in rear hotdog, muffler and tip (300 - 350) + labour.. (Based on 2.5 inch mandrel bent system)

the whole system eh?...... how wide do you want the piping? i'm pretty sure 3rd gens have 2.25 inch piping (or was it 2.5?), but dont quote me on that. and the second question is do you want press bends or mandrel bends? cos mandrel cost more. and bear in mind, bigger is not better (for NA applications anyway). eg, dont get 4" piping unless you want to bolt a T88 to your block.....

hahaha nah mate, i have a bit of a clue, mandrel, 2.5inch, 4inch for the cannon only, hi flow cat... i like the ricey cannon sound, was orignally considering 3inch whole way through but i think it would be detrimental and sound not much different, and be too rice....by the way i do actually plan to twin turbo this in the next 5 years (personal preference). But i wish to understand exactly how the electronics and induction is working before i do so, and am planning for uni next year. thanx again

i'd budget for around 1,800 to 2 just to be safe. definately shop around though, or you may get ripped.

solid, thanks mate... ive got connections

TT a verada? i thought magna auto's blew up around if now less than 200 fwks's? the idea is rad but, why not save up and TT an older verada? then your not wasting 1K on a full exhaust (since you'd have to bolt up to a turbo as soon as thats done obviously) but i guess if you want to take your time on the turbo a new exhaust would be fine, in 5 years you'd probably have to replace it anyway haha.

TT a verada? i thought magna auto's blew up around if now less than 200 fwks's? the idea is rad but, why not save up and TT an older verada? then your not wasting 1K on a full exhaust (since you'd have to bolt up to a turbo as soon as thats done obviously) but i guess if you want to take your time on the turbo a new exhaust would be fine, in 5 years you'd probably have to replace it anyway haha.

hahahhaahha, mate im 18, never been insured, whats 2k for for a custom manifold and new 3 inch system to a 12k turbo set up...thanks for stating the facts though (it would be stupid to do it that way), not wise for my situation, i plan not to crash in the next five years start a business while at uni, im sure after 3 years of mechanical engineering ill be much better informed and i also concurr that the stock gearbox couldn't handle that power--> dogbox plus i would prefer to awd convert to get the power to the ground...its all theoretical..now i plan to pimp my ride (not that i have it yet; as earlier post) thanx dude

edit* and strung out rocks so hard

I think you'll learn more from this forum about cars than you would from Mechanical engineering (at least not until pen-ultimate years), I've been stack at Uni for 4 years now and it wasn't until joining this forum and owning a Magna and working in a car company that I learnt more about cars.

hahahhaahha, mate im 18, never been insured, whats 2k for for a custom manifold and new 3 inch system to a 12k turbo set up...thanks for stating the facts though (it would be stupid to do it that way), not wise for my situation, i plan not to crash in the next five years start a business while at uni, im sure after 3 years of mechanical engineering ill be much better informed and i also concurr that the stock gearbox couldn't handle that power--> dogbox plus i would prefer to awd convert to get the power to the ground...its all theoretical..now i plan to pimp my ride (not that i have it yet; as earlier post) thanx dude

edit* and strung out rocks so hard <--- yes, yes they do.

haha convert it to AWD, TT and get a dogbox... thats about 3 other veradas right there, i hope your business makes a lot of money bro :cool:, why don't you buy a awd verada to begin with? (apart from money being the main restricting factor) you could do a tbutcher and get your verada, import a front and rear cut wrecked 4wd diamante and a 8G VR4 2.5 and just throw it all together and hope the wheels stay on? just a thought?

<--- yes, yes they do.

haha convert it to AWD, TT and get a dogbox... thats about 3 other veradas right there, i hope your business makes a lot of money bro :cool:, why don't you buy a awd verada to begin with? (apart from money being the main restricting factor) you could do a tbutcher and get your verada, import a front and rear cut wrecked 4wd diamante and a 8G VR4 2.5 and just throw it all together and hope the wheels stay on? just a thought?

true about the cuts, i havent really researched that yet but thats probably what i'd have to do, what about wrecked awd magnas?? that is a solid suggestion about the vr4 but i want to build with the 6g74 as the base (pride), i would have to wait to buy the kj is it?? but also i very very very much hate their change in body shape...this project is relying on my education over the next few years and my ability to invest. If it doesnt happen this way i'll still be happy to smoke most cars on the road (legally off the road) and just be a pimp ride --> thats why i love them

does any one know of any difference between stage one rpw extractors stage two rpw extractors and pacemakers? cause i hears the rpw ones are like from $375 and the pacies are like $650, coments please!

they are fidly on a FWD V6, but you certainly dont have to remove the exhaust lol

a bloke at an exhaust did the same thing, he goes "to fit extractors to a FWD V6 you need to remove the engine mate cos the rear bank is too close to the firewall" i just rolled my eyes and said "yeah right buddy, ill go elseware i think" and walked straight out with him following me trying to convince me he was right :bowrofl:

$1000 for the exhaust?!! get lost!

An exhaust is an exhaust, and changing the piping ain't all that much nor hard to do.

I don't know anything about extractors though, but i'm pretty sure no one has had to take their engine out when installing extractors.

And i got my Lukey muffler with 2.5" cat-back piping with mandrel bents for WAY UNDER $1k!
no offeence but do you work or have you worked for an exhaust shop before.??? making a custom exhaust with a quality pipe work and labour from the ectractors back isnt like making a sandwich. theres a lot of tyme involved. that cost money. if its mandrel bent be sure to add upto $100 ontop maybe more. hi flo cat around 500. and a muffler or 2 depending on your preference any where from $100 to $300. put it like this. i worked for an exhaust company and i know first hand how hard it is . ive done my own exhaust its mandrel from CAT back 2.5" to two import mufflers dtm style $250 each muffler stainless steal i havnt even done extractors yet. or cat. and ie already spent $600 on it. its well worth it too. so dude he isnt gettin ripd of he mite have a custom order unless he only ordered a bolt on sprts pakage than yes your right GET LOST! :D
take care no hard feelings

Try calling CES Racing Systems in Meadowbrook ( Brisbane/ Logan), They may be expensive but they are the best, bar none. If you're on budget, best look elsewhere. If you want the best, look no further.

cause i hears the rpw ones are like from $375 and the pacies are like $650,

you've got them the wrong way around...... and add another $200 for RPW price

well im just going off what me mate tole me. he got onto the rpw site for sfuff for his FTO, ill copy the list he sent me
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Product Price Description / Additional Comments
Induction Systems
Replacement K&N Panel Filter $110.00
360° Oval Pod Filter $181.81 K&N Ram Pod Filter charger Kit for Air Mass Sensors
RPW Cold Air Induction kit inc Filter $476.00 K&N Filter charger Kit with mandrel bent piping, silicon hosing relocate to
front bumper. No stock piping reused.
RPW Replacement Upper Manifold $850.00 Replacement Upper Intake Manifold with new plenum up to stock throttle
body to suit N/A and Turbo Applications.
RPW Replacement Upper Manifold $1000.00 Replacement Upper Intake Manifold with new plenum up to stock throttle
body to suit N/A – has extra in built internal ram tubes.
Six Pack Throttle Bodies $2000.00 Suitable for heavily modified cars only
65mm High Flowed Throttle Body $181.00 Stock unit exchange high flowed for approx 40% more flow. No manifold
modifications required.
Thermo Block Manifold gasket $86.50 Replace Stock gasket with non-insulating Thermo Block unit
Thermo Block Throttle Body Gasket $43.50 Replace Stock gasket with non insulating Thermo Block unit


Engine Modifications
RPW Billeted Camshafts $1,000.00 Billet steel camshafts for any application inc Turbo, Supercharger & N/A
Vernier Camshaft Gears (Price Each) $125.00 Exchange Surety charge $100.00 per gear
Valve Springs - N/A $307.50
Valve Springs - Forced Induction $522.00
Stock conrod Modifications each $35.00 resized, Fit ARP conrod bolts
8mm ARP Conrod Bolt Kit $157.00 ARP Rod Bolt Kit add to above price
Shot Peened Conrods each $23.75 Shot Peened Conrods
Forged Steel Conrods $2200.00 Price can vary - confirm before ordering
Forged Piston Set CP $2650.00 CP Forged 8.0 : 1 Pistons no rings.
Hypereutectic Pistons 9.0 : 1 CR $350.00 To suit Turbo Application up to 16 psi
Hypereutectic Pistons 10.0 : 1 CR $350.00 To suit N/A Applications
Hastings Piston Rings $128.00
RPW Ported & Polished Cyl Head Stage 1 Each $1,150.00 Cyl heads done on exchange ask for details
RPW Ported & Polished Cyl Head Stage 2 Each $1,300.00 Cyl heads done on exchange ask for details
RPW Heavy Duty Head Gasket $160.00 Comes in either 1.1, 1.5 and 2.2mm thick gasket


Exhaust
RPW 3 - 1 Street Design Extractors $375.00 RPW Street Design Series inc Flex pipe 3.0 / 3.5 N/A mods only – Long
tube Header 1 ½” primary Pipes. Requires mods to adapt to Cat Converter
RPW 3 - 1 Street Design Extractors $550.00 RPW Street Design Series inc Flex pipe bolt on up to cat converter. Shortie
Header design 1 5/8” primary pipes bolt direct to cat converter
RPW 3 - 1 Race Design Extractors $600.00 RPW Race Design Series inc Flex pipe bolt direct to cat converter
HPC Coating Headers only each $175.00
HPC Coating of Flex Pipe $80.00
Lukey Ultra Flow Muffler $160.00 Lukey Ultra Flow 2 ½” Unit specific for Magna Vehicles


Drive Train Components
Standard After market Clutch Kit $675.00 TE – TL Magna only Organic Clutch Disc
Duty Clutch Improved $800.00 Semi Ceramic clutch disc inc complete clutch kit
Heavy Duty Clutch Kit $900.00 Semi Ceramic clutch disc with heavier cover plate + 25%
Super Heavy Duty Clutch Kit $1100.00 Semi Ceramic clutch disc with heaver cover plate + 50% (Turbo / NOS
only)
Semi Solid Engine Mounts $160.00 RPW Polyurethane engine Mounts all model vehicles
Cusco MZ Type LSD $1590.00 Price may vary - Street based LSD
Cusco RS Type LSD $1750.00 Price may vary – Competition based LSD
Billet Flywheels $550.00 Billet Carbon Steel Flywheels for all model vehicles
Short Shifter Kits $200.00 RPW Rally Spec Short Shifter Kits reduces overall movement by 50%
forwards / sideways (Exchange unit Core Charge Applicable)