Yeah guys and girls just got a quick question. Who knows which type of oil mitsubishi uses for servicing in magnas? I think its Castrol GTX3, 15W-40grade oil but not 100% sure, it could be the GTX2 20W-50 oil.. Gonna do an oil change and i just dont wanna mix the oils up. Cheers

I think it goes from Dealership to dealership and depending on their contract with different oil manufacturers. Some use Shell, Caltex GTX3 or Magnatec.

I think any thing from 10W onwards is abit thick for magna's (just a personal opinion after using 15W Penrite in mine last time), so 20W will be way off.

unless you use fully synthetic oil arent you going to have to use atleast 15W oil? i thought only fully synthetic oil was that thin..

go to a Mitsi Dealership, then, they will send you to parts, where you can buy Oil, coolant, Transy fluid. All that stuff is only availible from Mitsi and only used in Mitsi cars...
Have a Nice Day lol

yeah ive heard of mitsubishi brand oil and stuff.. but ive also heard that that is just repackaged castrol oil..

i was thinking of using magnatec but i heard somewhere that your not spose to use fully synthetic oil in the car for the first 30 000k's for some reason.. mines only done 8000ks.. anyone with any ideas on that?

Penrite 15-40 works beautiful on the 3.5litre

On another note, were can I pickup some automatic replacement fluid, gear changes starting to get alittttle bit slower..

Mits Dimond Specrum Oil is BP oil. I use 5-50 synthetic in mine. persoanl choice

I use Castrol GTX2, but im gonna switch to Magnatec....cos it sounds interesting :P

In south aus here the mitsi dealer that does our car use castrol for normal oil and mobil for the synthetic oil but i think it may be different at another dealer!!! :D

just thinking, if mitsubishi has the "diamond care" oil.. then shouldnt all the dealers be using that.. yet their not... the question has to be asked why??

ever thought to ring them and ask?


20w50 around about the 25 dollar mark is all any low spec car would ever need. changed evrey 8000 odd km.

ever thought to ring them and ask?


20w50 around about the 25 dollar mark is all any low spec car would ever need. changed evrey 8000 odd km.

any low spec car driven normally yes, but i dont drive it normally, drive it pretty hard as its a courier vehicle and is constantly doing stop start work, started every 5 mins, idleing alot, etc etc. Need something that is gonna protect the enginge in those sorts of conditions.

And yes i have thought of ringing the dealer, they will just tell me to take it to them and that i shouldnt do oil changes myself blah blah blah.

HEY ALL,

Just for info, my father in-law use to be the tech manager for castrol here in adelaide and he tells me that the oil used at mitishi dealerships will depend on their contract.

However, the genuine diamond spectrum product is a BP product and the diamond spectrum coolant is a castrol product which is manufactured by Huntsman, but if the dealer is not contracted to Castrol they could be using anything for engine changes (I think Portside Mitisi's use Valvoline).

He has recommended that I use Castrol Magnatec in my TJ and that if i was required to top up the oil and didnt have any, using any other castrol product will not hurt. He also said by using Magnatec, even with hard driving changing oil every 15,000kms is fine. But i plan to do it every 10,000kms.

I found my engine now runs cooler and takes a little longer to get up to temp.

Also don't forget BP owns Castrol.

Keg

anyway put some Penrite HPR10 in it, seems to work pretty well.. the valve noise i use to be able to hear (just the normal old slight noise you can hear in all cars) has significantly reduced and it feels like its running just as well as before no worries. What my mechanic was talling me is basically Castrol oil isnt worth the bottle its in, he said the magnatech and fully synthetic stuff is alright, although there is better stuff out their, but their GTX stuff is a complete waste of time.. Also he said that the big oil brands, castrol included, use recycled oil in alot of their products, now this is fine if its treated properly or anything, i have no problems with that, but my problem with it is that its cheaper to use recylced oil, yet they still charge a premium over other brands like penrite who use only new stuff, no recycled stuff!

anyway i think ill stick with this lot for a while now, if i wanna go to fully synthetic then i will go with mobil 1 (cos brocky told me too :P), but their probably isnt any need to use fully synthetic oil in anything other then a performance car.

Just a note on castrol. BP bought them a little while ago and have stopped producing the BP
brand of lubricants. Nowadays a castrol GTX3 is basically the same as the BP Visco 3000. If
you get tappet noise there's a thing called tappet noise suppresor additive which the dealer
added at the last service. No tappet noise during early morning startup at all.

Just a note on castrol. BP bought them a little while ago and have stopped producing the BP
brand of lubricants. Nowadays a castrol GTX3 is basically the same as the BP Visco 3000. If
you get tappet noise there's a thing called tappet noise suppresor additive which the dealer
added at the last service. No tappet noise during early morning startup at all.

meh its only a touch of tappet noise.. i use to own a commodore so im pretty well use to it!

If you get tappet noise there's a thing called tappet noise suppresor additive which the dealer added at the last service. No tappet noise during early morning startup at all.

any more info on this please vlad? this is not just some STP/wynns product right? brand and availability? thanks

any more info on this please vlad? this is not just some STP/wynns product right? brand and availability? thanks
Sorry, didn't ask what they used. Will go in for a service soon and will ask then.

cheers vlad :)

I find all this talk about oils interesting. The thread seems to come up up often. As I get older I get pretty cynical and take any claims by manufactures with a grain of salt.
For what its worth I have been using Castrol GtX 3 on my TE magna. Got it with 15000km and its now done 152000km. The engine hasnt missed a beat and I just follow the servicing schedule and replace every 15000km. Why do I use GTX 3 ? . Well its not because I think its the best or necessarilly better than anything else. But at 22 bucks its a mid price oil and fills the spec reccomended in the servicing schedule. Maybe if I drove a Porsche or Ferrari (quite a significant investment) Then I would use a more expensive oil. I dont see any need for spending lots of cash for a humble car like a Magna.
I suppose from working in the aviation industry where maintanance and following a maintenance schedule to the letter is paramount. Its accepted that as long as the products fit the maufactures specs then its safe and acceptable to use. The oil we use in one our Pratt and Whitney Turbo Fan engines is a Mobil fully synthetic oil. Why Mobil ? Well its not because its the best but it meets all the specs required for that particular engine and its maufacturer and we have a contract with Mobil. I am sure that Shell BP and many other companies could probably also supply a suitable oil.
We would never dream of using additives or experimenting with unproven or unknown products. I suppose I just use this same thinking when it comes to servicing my car. Anyway thats my two cents worth

Nigel

At my 39,000 km (due 37,500) service I used Penrite 15W oil on the recomendation of Penrite Oil techie.

What I found out after putting 15W in the car that it was running a bit hard, on some cold days there was tapping noise for few seconds and car was growling alot too. and when you know your car you feel it somethign is just not right

over the weekend i changed over to magnatec 10W-40 at 45,000 km service and its quite and light like a feather. engine noise is ruduced by almost 50% while idling, and almost 80% while driving. no more growling. and its so light to drive it now.

I am simply too happy with magnatec 10w-40 and it only costed me $25.95 or less from auto barn.

HEY ALL,

Just for info, my father in-law use to be the tech manager for castrol here in adelaide and he tells me that the oil used at mitishi dealerships will depend on their contract.

However, the genuine diamond spectrum product is a BP product and the diamond spectrum coolant is a castrol product which is manufactured by Huntsman, but if the dealer is not contracted to Castrol they could be using anything for engine changes (I think Portside Mitisi's use Valvoline).

He has recommended that I use Castrol Magnatec in my TJ and that if i was required to top up the oil and didnt have any, using any other castrol product will not hurt. He also said by using Magnatec, even with hard driving changing oil every 15,000kms is fine. But i plan to do it every 10,000kms.

I found my engine now runs cooler and takes a little longer to get up to temp.

Also don't forget BP owns Castrol.

Keg


Is this necessarily a good thing that your engine runs cooler and takes a little longer to get up to temp ? Was the car running a higher temp than usual ?. Running an engine to cold results in a loss of effeciency and power as well as increasing emissions. Long term it will lower the life of the engine. All engines have an optimum operating temp. For instance a high performance or racing engine will generally operate at a higher temp than an engine designed to haul around a typical family car.

nigel

all diamond spectrum products sold by the mitsu dealers comes from BP, oils, coolants, etc!

all diamond spectrum products sold by the mitsu dealers comes from BP, oils, coolants, etc!
Which I've been told by Mitsu dealers, are made by Castrol as BP bought Castrol and rely on
Castrol for lubricant manufacturing and themselves for petrol. The GTX3 is exactly the same as
visco 3000.

yeah ive heard of mitsubishi brand oil and stuff.. but ive also heard that that is just repackaged castrol oil.. Yer,It is:redface:

Having used in the past high viscosity engine oils on my 3.5lt which mind you all was still within the manufacturer's recommendation (like your 20-50w, 20-40w, 15-50w non-synthetic) according to the different atmospheric temperatures for which they recommend for you to use the right viscosity...

i have noticed one hell of a difference and a very noticiable one!, since i gave fully synthetic oil a try...

The viscosity that i'm using is 10-30w which is good to use on all kinds of atmospheric temperature ranging from -20 degrees to 40 degrees heat.

having driven the car for several thousands ok Kms on high visco non-synthetic oil to now low visco fully sync oil.. the 3.5lt has not only given me less fuel comsuption but it feels a lot more responsive than it did on previous oils... it now reaches the right operating temperature rather quick while still being very quite on morning starts...

I strongly recommend it...!!!!

The only down fall is the price of the 5l bottle... at $90 for Mobil 1 and then later after several thousand kms... the 1 liter top up bottle at $20 ...The five litre is only available at performance shops or the top up bottle only available at selected (bigger) Mobil petrol stations.

my personal opinion is.. it might just be a magna engine and not a ferrari engine but i still paid good dollars for it and it gives me fun when i drive it! ....so i will look after it with a good oil!!

i have noticed one hell of a difference and a very noticiable one!, since i gave fully synthetic oil a try...

The viscosity that i'm using is 10-30w which is good to use on all kinds of atmospheric temperature ranging from -20 degrees to 40 degrees heat.


How many K's and how old was your car before you switched to full synthetic?

i bought the car a year ago with 80,000kms and I've replaced the oil every 10,000kms with whatever brand of oil i found, castrol, valvoline or shell... when i hit 120,000kms and was due for an oil change i came across this oil with a visco of 10-30w which i thought was unusual.. but i remembered that many manufacturers hand book recommend this oil for all types of temperatures.. so i thought i'd give it a try..... i bought it and replaced it the next morning and when i took the car for a drive i noticed that the car was reving a lot more freely and felt more responsive than it normally did... and now after several thousand kms, i have noticed that i am actually getting more mileage out of my full tanks of petrol... just to give you an idea ..driving the car with the occassional outbursts i used to get close to 260-270kms with half a tank... now with full sync oil i seem to always hit the 400-410kms mark with the same amount of fuel.. (half a tank).. and my driving style still the same!!

Yeah guys and girls just got a quick question. Who knows which type of oil mitsubishi uses for servicing in magnas? I think its Castrol GTX3, 15W-40grade oil but not 100% sure, it could be the GTX2 20W-50 oil.. Gonna do an oil change and i just dont wanna mix the oils up. Cheers

My local Mitsubishi Dealer (SG Chambers Cootamundra NSW)has recommended that I use Mobil XHP 15W/40 oil in my TF.
I had a TR and a TS prior to purchasing the TF and have used Mobil XHP in them all.
I also use geniune Mitsubishi Oil Filters.
The local dealer uses the same oil in all Magna's they service.
I use the same oil in my 1999 VT SeriesII Acclaim Wagon.
Runs fine. :cool:

27 months between posts...

put that shovel away!!

Thats right why is this being discussed?

Magna lubricants (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34611)

Please search, you know everyone will bump in and say I use this because this is better, because that top grade doesnt do much, blah blah blah.

Dealers use different oils depending on their contract. case close.

read the hand book

5w 30 is the recommended grade
5w 40 is fine as well

20w 50 is NOT fine... if you get this in a handbook service, tell them to drain it and fill with the correct oil...

i was told a story by a mechanic at work where a new modern 1.5L 4cyl engine failed as the oil was the wrong specification 25w 50 when it should have been 10w 40... sounds silly to me... but the manufacturer doesn't spec a certain oil for no reason

Generally, you'll find that the dealership carries 2 grades of oil; a 20w 50 for older or higher km cars, and a 10w 30 for new(er) cars.

For a 3rd gen magna, 10w 30 oil is perfectly acceptable and there is no need to go any thinner or thicker, unless in extreme climate circumstances.

read the hand book

5w 30 is the recommended grade
5w 40 is fine as well

20w 50 is NOT fine... if you get this in a handbook service, tell them to drain it and fill with the correct oil...



According to the TJ handbook...

Depending on Atmospheric Temperature you can use the following,

5W-30
10W-30
10W-40
10W-50
15W-50
20W-40
20W-50

5W-30 is the factory fill. Higher viscosities may increase fuel consumption.