Does anyone know about these guys:
http://www.fuelstar.com/about.html

they say they've been around since 1992. Have anyone heard anything about them before?

Ive heard of them before, they were on ACA or Today Tonight, supose to save U $$$ on fuel. Dont know how it works though.

Seems like one of those things that probably do work. But people dont want to spend the money to try it out and see for themself.

Just like filling your tyres with helium. It was all over a current affair. Anyone remember that?

no S**t, filling tyres with Helium ???? wow, how many grams of lift you get from that? or did you mean filling tyres with Nitrogen?

you get a smart card
and when u go to a local shop that supports this card
u buy lets say $30 worth of stuff and u will get a 2c per liter discount
the good thing is unlike safeway and coles u can save up the discounts
later after many discounts u go and use that card at the servo
and fill up a tank for $5 or 5c or even free
depending on how many discounts u get
the trialed it in S.A and it boomed

Oh i think it was nitrogen... my bad :confused:

But what does filling your tyres with nitrogen really do, except for allowing your car to blow up easy....

If you have low profile tires and hae not tried Nitrogen then i suggest you do. It saves alot of tire ware and the ride and handeling increases. You also do not hardly ever need to check the pressures as it is just does not change.
It is mean to keep the tire cooler and the temperature more even. I have tried it and thinks it works, esp the increased tire life.

^^^^^

It's a good investment.

Fuelstar have trade stands pretty often here, Never really checked it out.

So have anyone here tried one of these catalysts yet?
I've spent 15min searching the web, and there's heaps of info on this tin-oxide stuff and I haven't found a single site that rejects it, all sounds like it is proven to work.

It's $230 + postage for a canister for 3L, it's not exactly the cheapest thing around but hey, could be worth it.

If you have low profile tires and hae not tried Nitrogen then i suggest you do. It saves alot of tire ware and the ride and handeling increases. You also do not hardly ever need to check the pressures as it is just does not change.
It is mean to keep the tire cooler and the temperature more even. I have tried it and thinks it works, esp the increased tire life.
(HIJACK)

To be pretty technical - in an F1 car or an aeroplane, yes, Nitrogen in your tyres is a good thing.
Here are some reasons:

It's 100% nitrogen - that means there is no water in the tyre like when you fill with air.

Nitrogen is much more innert than air - it doesn't expand when heated etc.

Nitrogen is a very large atom - this means it doesn't leak out of the tyre.

etc.

I've spoken to alot of people about this, and they all agree that for a road car, it's a total waste of money as the benifits are not seen.
Even guys at tyre places told me the only reason they fill tyres with nitrogen is to get people to come back to the store (when they need a check and top-up) in the hope of selling them something else.

-Dan

But what does filling your tyres with nitrogen really do, except for allowing your car to blow up easy....

You're probably referring to Nitrous Oxide (NO2) which does aid in combustion, but pure Nitrogen (N2) used in tyres does not aid in combustion.

You're probably referring to Nitrous Oxide (NO2) which does aid in combustion, but pure Nitrogen (N2) used in tyres does not aid in combustion.

*** laughing @ teK ***

what does tyre gas have anything to do with combustion???

If you have low profile tires and hae not tried Nitrogen then i suggest you do. It saves alot of tire ware and the ride and handeling increases. You also do not hardly ever need to check the pressures as it is just does not change.
It is mean to keep the tire cooler and the temperature more even. I have tried it and thinks it works, esp the increased tire life.
Many performance shops and some tyre centres are offering nitrogen inflation. NRMA have a press release saying you'll get more benefit out of ensuring you regularly check and maintin tyre pressure. Remember that air has water vapour in it. Some say that by using (dry) nitrogen means your rims or the steel belts in your tyres won't corrode and the rubber will not deteriorate as quickly (albeit very slowly) as with straight compressed air. Some argue that it escapes slower out of the side walls of the tyres using the theory that Nitrogen has a large molecular size than compressed air (air is around 78% nitrogen any way) ... depends on whose theory you subscribe to. Some say it increases road comfort. And if it's good for racing cars etc then it's good for us right? Only if you can justify regularly inflating your tyres with nitrogen at $7.50 a pop. If you do, good for you, if you don't good for you. Put it this way it won't do your car any harm, but for those of us who still have 15" rims and Bridgey RE92s it's probably not going to worry us.

okay, lets jump back on topic, I've ordered one of these fuelstar units for engine sizes up to 3L, I don't know when I'll receive it, as I have not paid yet, HAHA.... but when I do install it, give me probably another week after driving with it, I'll tell you how I go.

When I was still using the old Fast Magna Forums, I purchased one of the fuelstar units to test on...

Sadly, I sold the unit to Kym before installing it... You might wanna ask him how is he doing...

SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM!!! this has been proven to be bullsh!t, was on one of the current afairs shows, a ford engineer ran did tests with it and found it to do absolutely nothing

SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM!!! this has been proven to be bullsh!t, was on one of the current afairs shows, a ford engineer ran did tests with it and found it to do absolutely nothing

That's one out of seas of proven data on the web in regards to this issue. besides I'll give it a try any how. You have the right to be sceptical, but you just gotta give them a try if they've been around for 12years and still doing alright and expanding worldwide. If it was a big scam, would they have been sued by someone already?

It's hard to make everyone happy, for everything, there's always going to be some calculated defective part in any manufacturing process, so given that they have a money back garuntee and warrantee and have so many distributors around Aus, I think it isn't as risky as it seems.

Anyways, EuroNick, what is kym's AM nickname?

*** laughing @ teK ***

what does tyre gas have anything to do with combustion???

Ask h45e.

J..

He goes by the name Kim(I think) and he is from TassieLand... Kim Maisch I think...

I sold the Fuelstar to him... AFAIK, he already has it on his car for over a year now...

PM him :)

CHEERS
Nick

i think it works by passing the fuel through something that richens it a bit... and if your ecu adjusts a bit to the richer fuel u get more power

Someone on aussie magna already has a unit installed, although the difference was little, but he did notice a drop in petrol usage.

In regards to the whole Nitrogen in tyres thing I just really wanna use the word permeate .
Nitrogen does not permeate through the tyre rubber as quickly as air. :D

i was drinking burbon last night and this morning it is permeating through my skin..

i was drinking burbon last night and this morning it is permeating through my skin..

Now you're getting it. :D

White devil: Be interested to see how it goes.

Honestly, I think it has as much chance of actually doing something as the old brock polariser! lol

I tried nitrogen inflation and it does nothing for road comfort as they claim. good for racing i guess as tyre temp stability is important.

re the fuel star, i wondr if its anything like the polariser that Brocky believed in and led to his split with HDT?

i think it works by passing the fuel through something that richens it a bit... and if your ecu adjusts a bit to the richer fuel u get more power

u cant richen fuel itself , only the air/fuel mixture, on a stock motor with no breathing mods u better to go leaner than richer for a bit more power and economy, the factory tune is a bit over rich to protect from any low octane fuel and pinging etc.

White devil: Be interested to see how it goes.

Honestly, I think it has as much chance of actually doing something as the old brock polariser! lol

Installed it on Sunday, just feeling a tad more response from engine and smoother sound. but too early to tell you about the milage numbers yet. I'll take note next time I fuel up...

But if anyone ever needs to install one of these devices inline with their fuel line, there's a very neat place to put it, just pop me a msg if ppl need to know where. you just gotta make up your own bracket, which I bought something from bunnings and cut it in half, it was great fit.

i think it works by passing the fuel through something that richens it a bit... and if your ecu adjusts a bit to the richer fuel u get more power

No it doesn't richen the fuel (enrich?) per se but rather these fuel catalysts kill off the polluting 'bacteria' that live in the fuel, essentially re-refining it prior to combustion, therefore reducing contamination, therefore leading to a cleaner and more efficient burn. I don't know if the fuelstar site goes into this process but the Fitch one certainly does - the explanations are quite detailed.

www.fitchcatalyst.com.au

Don't think FuelStar kills bacteria, at least it's not mentioned in their info. But it does release microns of tin particals that adds charge to the fuel and it burns cleaner and more efficient, hence slightly better milage.

How much does it cost?

the one I got was $230, I believe the Fitch ones are bit more expensive.

yeah for something like a Magna you'd be wanting the Fitch F200 which is $385 by itself or about $540 fitted with brakets and pipes and labour etc.

Well, the question is, do you want to pay that much money for something that may or may not give a tiny increase in power and economy? Personally I could think of plenty of better things to spend the $ on.

Well, the question is, do you want to pay that much money for something that may or may not give a tiny increase in power and economy? Personally I could think of plenty of better things to spend the $ on.

Having experienced my own car - which has only 50,000ks on it (meaning its in its prime anyway) both without and now WITH the Fitch; I can absolutely say the thing is worth its cost just for the increase in smoothness, startability and general all-round increase in get-up-and-go-get-it driveability. The economy is slightly better so far, so good, and if it does what it says in the long run and keeps the oil cleaner as well then even more so good as a bonus.

Worth the money - definitely.

But what does filling your tyres with nitrogen really do, except for allowing your car to blow up easy....

since when was nitrogen explosive ? your lungs dont blow up and the air u breathe is 33% nitrogen

Having experienced my own car - which has only 50,000ks on it (meaning its in its prime anyway) both without and now WITH the Fitch; I can absolutely say the thing is worth its cost just for the increase in smoothness, startability and general all-round increase in get-up-and-go-get-it driveability. The economy is slightly better so far, so good, and if it does what it says in the long run and keeps the oil cleaner as well then even more so good as a bonus.

Worth the money - definitely.

I agree with SARRAS, the car is definately better get up and go, I just filled up last night, a full tank, so by the end of next week, I'll be able to tell you how far it got me, so this morning I drove 140km to remote work location and the fuel gauge only droped 1/2 of the small bars. sorry my car doesn't have instanteous reading being a Tf.

Fuel usage update:

Being doing 50% HWY 50% traffic Jam on the way home; I filled up at a service station and noted down the litres it took, it used 45L, on the gauge i was on 1/4 tank. Anyway, on the Odo, I have 550km. so that works out to be arond 8.2L / 100km. And this is only the 1st week. It's supposed to get better after the first engine oil change after 2000km or so.