Hi all, still a newbie here, i am lookin at getting a TL or TW, can someone please tell me is it possible to add front speakers. The only reason is, how would i go about removing the door trim with the side airbags.

im pretty sure that it is as easy as removing the panels off any 3rd gen (very easy) as the air-bag mechanism is actually part of the door not the trim, jus dont touch any wires. someone please correct me if im wrong as i havent seen a TL door air-bag as yet but i work with cars and specifically car doors all day and others with the side-impact air-bags are fine to take trims off

make sure u disconnect the positive power from the battery (well thats what ive heard)

Disconnecting the ground (negative) is usually recommended... Safer having no ground... Nowhere for any electricity to run as the car has rubber tyres.

Otherwise the whole body is a circuit waiting to complete itself and start a fire. Instead of the few positive lines that are running through your car that are all well insulated and protected.

But I got no advice re: airbags in doors, never had to deal with them and wouldn't want to void any warranty. :)

The side airbags on the TL/TWs are actually on the sides of the front seat backs, not on the
doors. If you look at a pic of one you'll notice an elongated plastic cover.

On the seats, damm, i hope so. i just assumed that side airbags would be on the door. Once somebody buys my lancer i will let you all know how i get on.

Thanks for the tips.

On the seats, damm, i hope so. i just assumed that side airbags would be on the door. Once somebody buys my lancer i will let you all know how i get on.

Thanks for the tips.
Definitely is.

yes the air bags are in the sides of the seats, theres is a little black cover on the seat clearly marked with airbag markings. the trim just comes off like a normal 3rd gen door trim. but i wouldnt go fiddling with wires.

[QUOTE=s_tim_ulate]Disconnecting the ground (negative) is usually recommended... Safer having no ground... Nowhere for any electricity to run as the car has rubber tyres.

Otherwise the whole body is a circuit waiting to complete itself and start a fire. Instead of the few positive lines that are running through your car that are all well insulated and protected.
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Ummmm... WHAT? Dude you are SERIOUSLY trippin!
The only way disconnecting the -ve is safer is that is you happen to hit the body with the spanner while undoin the -ve, it won't do NUTHIN.. whereas do that while disconnecting the +ve, with the -ve still connected & you'll have a BIG flash & no spanner left.(dead short between +ve & body/-ve should have a fault current in the hundreds of A I'd imagine)

As for the whole body being a whole circuit.. BS! In a DC circuit, -ve is never live.. only +ve.. & the whole purpose is to kill power to the airbag, so to be on the safe side, disconnect BOTH & you'll avoid ANY problem.(sumone could drop sumfin between the -ve terminal & body, powering the airbags & setting them off)

[QUOTE=s_tim_ulate]Disconnecting the ground (negative) is usually recommended... Safer having no ground... Nowhere for any electricity to run as the car has rubber tyres.

Otherwise the whole body is a circuit waiting to complete itself and start a fire. Instead of the few positive lines that are running through your car that are all well insulated and protected.
QUOTE]
Ummmm... WHAT? Dude you are SERIOUSLY trippin!
The only way disconnecting the -ve is safer is that is you happen to hit the body with the spanner while undoin the -ve, it won't do NUTHIN.. whereas do that while disconnecting the +ve, with the -ve still connected & you'll have a BIG flash & no spanner left.(dead short between +ve & body/-ve should have a fault current in the hundreds of A I'd imagine)

As for the whole body being a whole circuit.. BS! In a DC circuit, -ve is never live.. only +ve.. & the whole purpose is to kill power to the airbag, so to be on the safe side, disconnect BOTH & you'll avoid ANY problem.(sumone could drop sumfin between the -ve terminal & body, powering the airbags & setting them off)
It was said before to d/c the positive and I just said it's safer to d/c the negative, (as you have just agreed with) We're saying the same thing man just semantics.
What I mean is that otherwise the whole body of the car is grounded, and therefore can short out if it comes in contact with a live wire. Or as you suggested if your spanner comes in contact with the body whilst touching a terminal

And yes if you accidentally do something like have both terminals of your battery touching the hood you will see a huge explosion until the circuit is cut, usually by melted metal... Lotsa amps from a car battery. (good way to fkuc someones car up is by throwing a battery at it :))

Be on the safe side and d/c the neg then pos... If you don't know what your doing.

It was said before to d/c the positive and I just said it's safer to d/c the negative, (as you have just agreed with) We're saying the same thing man just semantics.
What I mean is that otherwise the whole body of the car is grounded, and therefore can short out if it comes in contact with a live wire. Or as you suggested if your spanner comes in contact with the body whilst touching a terminal
Ummmm your post kinda makes sense BUT, if a car has rubber tyres (no way to ground) then why do people so often ground things to the chassis???? Obviously runs back to the -ve terminal on the battery but this is not "ground".

Disconnecting the -ve terminal disconnects the circuit but does not necessarily stop the +ve getting to ground. Provide a connection between the chassis and the physical earth, you will "ground" the circuit. The "ground" has no way of reaching the +ve terminal in the circuit, therefore, no way to complete the circuit. In a car, attaching a negative wire to the chassis will usually mean the circuit being completed to the -ve terminal on the battery. A circuit has been completed. This does not mean that "ground" has been found.

In the instance of airbags, I would firmly suggest disconnnecting both +ve and -ve terminals to isolate the system from ANY current.

In the instance of "ground" for any doubters. consider TV and radio installations, they literally connect to "ground". A very good reason is that current can dissapate and disappear without further problems. In a car, its pretty much recycled and this is the way it needs to be in order to maintain sufficient voltage to run a cars systems. If all +ve volatge was really running out to "ground" then there would be no voltage left to power the cars sytems at all. Having studied electronics, there is a big misconception as to what is considered "ground" and what is actually "ground". Ground is a way to END a circuit, -ve is a way to complete a circuit. Very different things. As mitsubishi would say, please consider! lol

Why do people so often ground things to the chassis???? Obviously runs back to the -ve terminal on the battery but this is not "ground".

On the money there... People forget the two terms (ground&negative) aren't interchangeable. I guess that this is due to the lack of a physical earth in most automotive applications. But when your working with power tools etc that can bring the physical earth into the equation it's always best to play safely.
Ooh and invest in a fire extinguisher :)

wow a lot of information there, i went and had a look at some tls and yes the airbag is on the seats, so thankyou to all that posted.

Now who want to buy my lancer.

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nice kit.... How much u looking for the lot? are you selling your plates with it? ( i take it you have the plates for it still? Willing to sell them seperately :))