i am wanting to put a good stereo that plays mp3 in my car with a good speaker set up too. as i have 2 small children i can't really fit a sub on the back seat so does anyone have any ideas for a good stereo setup and a good brand that would be worth the money?
thanks

cant go past jvc for cheap good quality mp3...
Pioneer cheaper end are also quite good. Upgrade your front speakers as well to some 6" splits. And maybe some new 6x9's for the back. Pioneer aren't too bad for a budget.
How much money you got to blow first up... Some people regard cheap as $3k and other $200???

btw welcome to the forums! Ask anything, heapsa ppl willing to help.
Damn ur younger than me and u already got two kiddies! Take care of em!

Peace

Tim

cant go past jvc for cheap good quality mp3...
Pioneer cheaper end are also quite good. Upgrade your front speakers as well to some 6" splits. And maybe some new 6x9's for the back. Pioneer aren't too bad for a budget.
How much money you got to blow first up... Some people regard cheap as $3k and other $200???

btw welcome to the forums mate! Ask anything, heapsa ppl willing to help.
Damn ur younger than me and u already got two kiddies! Take care of em!

Peace

Tim


yeah well thats not my birthday its my partners, im 18. im looking somewhere between $600 and $1000. thanks for your help and yes don't worry i take good care of my kids, how could you not love the very lives you created. my front speakers are buggered any way so i need new ones (the ones on the dash) btw how hard is it to install them in the front doors or should i let the pros do it?

what car have you got? 1st gen? 2nd gen? 3rd gen?

2nd gen 95 ts executive sedan

K i've installed for first and thirds but not seconds. Not too sure if they have space in doors for speakers.
I'd forget about the front dash mounted ones, Look at installing in the doors. Im sure someone has more advice on this. (possibly in the second gen forum)
If you want good budget audio check out www.caraudiaustralia.com easy to find some good second hand gear there. (I will probably never pay retail again) You can pick up awesome front speakers for $150 ish. I recommend Hertz HSK-165 6.5" splits.

cool will do ta

well im all for reinstating scooter.

i can highly recommend alphine head units. extremely could quality & sound for a reasonable price.

ta but unfortunately its not up to us really is it? or do you have those kind of abilities? i wouldn't know. im just annoyed some one was spiteful enough to say that they hope he dies. they needed to ask the appropritae questions first before starting their criticism. as i said nearly all fines were my fault and the speed testing is being done with council permission in a controlled situation at the speedway. i don't understand that whilst some ppl are bragging about much higher speeds they are heros where as he is wanting to go a slower speed and it criticised about being an idiot and told that someone hopes he dies before they even know all of the facts. hopefully in future ppl will read posts correctly and ask questions before criticising ppl and putting them down and calling them names.

Considering u have kiddies, then a 155db sound system probably isn't suitable.

I have a JVC h/u and i have to say that i am more than happy with it. It plays mp3s, looks nice, never had a problem, and sounds great with even stock speakers (yes, i am too lazy to install my splits)

Hertz do indeed make good splits, as well as alpine, Phoenix gold (mine) blah blah, the list goes on.

don't worry about being to lazy to install what you call splits because i don't even know what they are!!! :bowrofl:

a good example of people jumping to their own conclusions with out knowing all the facts is this comment which some one made on the "controversial" thred

"$1,259.00 Traffic fines

You don't need to go that fast..."

yerp I must admit he (and others) were probly was asking for the thread to be closed, I thought closing the thread was appropriate as it was gettin out of hand. But I dont think it warranted banning of anyone, as he didnt really do anything too bad.
His questions could have been phrased better. By all impressions he sounded like a 'hoon'. If he wasn't and actually had a purpose to be testing etc then he should have stated it at the start and would have got a better reaction.
I dont think anyone wanted anyone to die etc. just what happens wen ppl get out of hand. At anytime Scooter could have backed down and said the reason for his testing... eh well.

Anyway i got no super powers...

Such as life

actually here are some more good examples of ppl starting trouble and coming to their own conclusions. i won't name names but they know who they are.

#1-why dont u try make your car hit 260+ at the end of the 1/4 and get the best of both worlds? You want to do 260+ on the street? u r an idiot, i hope u crash and burn and more importantly take no one else with you


#2-It was made pretty obvious by your first post that the top speed wasn't for the track so don't put others down by saying that.

#3- (this is a good example of others bragging on the same thread and not being criticised)
really? u must have been in a slow car with no power if it took u to the end of the road and not 260.... its doable, dont u worry....

and this is the thread that was aparrently so offensive to others to make them start their imbosile behaviour:

while back on my way to Brizzy(not long after getting the new TS), I decided to see what the old girl could do. From 100kp/h I planted my foot and attempted to get a top speed reading. It was fine up until about 170-175 when it started screaming like a murder victim and scaring me into backing off the gas at 180kp/h. It's the 3ltr 6 with 220kp/h on the dash so why only 180??. Would the tiptronic from a third gen be the way to go to get those extra k's and if so would a need diff be needed too? or should i look into having speed/rev limiter(what ever the hell it's called) reset. I don't plan on going anywhere near 180 to often but it would be nice to know it can do it if it has to.


like i said if ppl asked questions first they would know the whole story and all the nonsense wouldn't have happened in the first place.

speed testing is being done with council permission in a controlled situation at the speedway.
compared to

while back on my way to Brizzy(not long after getting the new TS), I decided to see what the old girl could do.
Whilst he still says that it was on his way back from brissy... When it happend, so he really gave the impression that this was being done on public roads...

Once again I think it was a harsh call... But Scooter was not phrasing his questions right and was opening himself up to the barrage.

If he had of said. I have council permission to test cars on controlled situations in a speedway for xxx reason etc, then he would have gotten a much more mature reaction.

It isnt upto ppl to ask questions. its up to the threadstarter to paint the scene, in the proper light. It sounds like he may have had good reasoning for the thread from what ur saying, but even I posted in the thread that got shutdown, and from my (first) impressions he sounded like a hoon.

yeah but he didn't really see it as anyones business as to where he was testing his speeds anyways. which i actually agree to.

yerr i dont care anyway about how fast he drives... i agree there are heaps of ppl on here that drive nutso... no doubt worse than ur fiance. Just saying that in his thread he was kinda all over the place. Eh well. Bans arent for that long i dont think... Hell, Ardei's back already :)

who is back?

juss a guy that got banned a few times... Stirred up trouble

More than $1000 to play mp3s is a waste of money.

i am wanting to put a good stereo that plays mp3 in my car with a good speaker set up too. as i have 2 small children i can't really fit a sub on the back seat so does anyone have any ideas for a good stereo setup and a good brand that would be worth the money?
thanks


then i go on to say what i am willing to spend. as you can see i don't say that i just want to spend that much money on the stereo alone, i want a decent speaker set up with it too. that is what i want to spend the money on.

Go the JVC or Pioneer....had experience with both and they are both sweet as.....remember though....Mp3's are only as good as you get them, make sure if you're downloading music never get less than 128kbps files, else they will sound tinny and flat. Thats the only problem with mp3's...they are compressed and overall....poo quality....but hey, when you can fit 8 full albums on one cd....its worth it :D

i disagree with blackVRX, not a waste of money at all. By the way blackVRX, very constructive criticism you gave, congrats, big help.

I'd suggest the JVC decks for mp3, they have mp3 right from their lowest range of decks and they look good. If you have a bit more money then go for an Alpine deck, but they only get really good about the $700 mark. Pioneer also have some good decks that are worth looking at, i think that strathfield have some on special this week also.

Splits are component speakers. The woofer and the tweeter are seperately mounted, via a cross-over. They provide better staging and better bass response generally. I'd suggest getting a lower range split from a quality brand. JL Audio, Cadence, Eclipse. You can go with brands like Morel or Focal, but they can be pricey. AVOID Sony, Pioneer, Kenwood and Jaycar. Cheaper generic brands and i persoanlly don't like the sound of them at all, especially the pioneers.

In the rear i would replace the 6x9's with something from either JL Audio, Cadence or Eclipse. I have heard all of these and they all thump. Again, avoid Pioneer, Sony, Kenwood and Jaycar for speakers.

All in all i'd suggest spending about $400 on a deck, $350 on splits and $250 on 6x9's. Be warned though, once you get all this gear in you are going to want to get a 4 channel amp, or at least a 2 channel amp to run your splits. Clarion have a great 2-channel amp that you could pick up from autobarne for about $200.

All in all the best thing to remember is: DO NOT PAY Recommended Retail Price. I have $7500 worth of stereo (RRP) and i only paid $4500, all store bought (not hot). You can save a lot of money by just telling the salesperson that you are comparing prices, are after the best stereo for your money and have been shopping around at other Car Audio Shops.

Anyway, sorry about the long rant and i am sure there are more than a few people that disagree with me, but best of luck.

Cam.

PS Instalation is a breeze. Stereo was a lot easier to install in my KR Verada than it was in the TF. Forget about the dash mounted speakers, cut the wires and let 'em rot.

i think he was saying that you will get no sound quality increase if you spend 1000 or 200 if your only playing mp3's. Due to the fact that the mp3 quality is poor. Fair enough too. I'd go for an expensive deck for other features though. But better off spending that money on better front splits.
Pioneer 6x9's arent too bad for a budget. If you dont have a sub anyways. Otherwise i wouldnt bother with any 6x9s. Any money u put into rear fill youd be better off putting into power or front splits imho.

Each to their own.

what the hell. i was reading this thread and then it all of a sudden turned into a continuation of scooters thread :nuts:

Regarding my comments - perhaps a bit harsh but they shouldnt of been taken so seriously. What my post basically meant was that I for one, would feel safer if someone who continues to speed at crazy speeds after racking up over $1000 in fines, was off the road.

And furthermore, that if someone was so stupid to continue speeding so excessively that it caused them to crash and die, they would have only themselves to blame and I would have no sadness/sympathy (only for his/her family and friends).

But no, i dont actually wish he would die :nuts:

Regardiing head units, if it was me i would be looking at the Panasonic range. Jeez they look good and are very good value for money if you have a look at their features :)

WTF?

Is this a multi topic thread?
Have replies been removed?
Is there life on Mars? :nuts:

the original thread poster had a tiff in another thread, that thread got closed. and it moved over here.

i disagree with blackVRX, not a waste of money at all. By the way blackVRX, very constructive criticism you gave, congrats, big help.


Sorry, it wasn't a criticism, just an opinion. Personally, I think over $1000 on any car audio system is going over board but that's just my thoughts. The main reason you spend a lot of money on car audio is to improve your fidelity/sound quality, after about $1000 you start getting diminishing returns for your investment, i.e. for every $1000 your sound quality improves, but by less and less. If you spend so much money and then play mp3s which use a lossful compression algorithm, well, then you are wasting your money. It would be the equivalent of spending $25 000 on a home theatre system to watch Super 8 films with mono sound and 16 colours.

I understand that these systems can be used to play CDs etc with all their HiFi glory and a lot of the time you are getting a lot of features and improved reliability etc and having the convenience to play a CD with hundreds of mp3 is very handy. But I find it laughable that someone would spend thousands of dollars and play low quality sound recordings (even at 128k sampling) through their u-beaut system.

I also think it's funny that a lot of people think Loud = Hi Fidelity. Some people have never heard of head room. I don't want to be inflammatory as I enjoy this particular forum but you have to admit that some people do go too far.

It depends on what music you listen to as well.
Spend around $500 on headunit, $300 on splits, $600 on amp, $250 on a sub, $400 on misc ( sub box, wires etc ).

IF is was me,
Pioneer DEH-5650mp, Boston FS-60 or Hertz HSK165 splits, Audison SRx3 and Boston G2 10inch, only needs a 14litre ( 0.5cuft ) box or a Hertz Air mille sub ( no box ). You will enjoy listening to the wiggles as much as the kids. You will need a sub if you want your lower end to sound decent, 6x9's dont really cut it compared to a sub.