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TZABOY
03-07-2003, 08:32 PM
Right i just threw in the K&N pod filter - yeah yeah noise power etc etc
ANYWAY!, there is knowhere for decent cold air induction so stupid here had an idea \:D/ :idea:
What if i moved the battery say into the boot, then i would have heaps of space to do whateva! I know i would have to keep my fuse box there but that isn't really a hasle. Has anyone done this or something similar? and there is plenty of room in the boot cause my sub box is in my bedroom waiting for a buyer

Is this a good idea :!: or am i crazy ](*,) >

AussieMagna
03-07-2003, 08:37 PM
No its a perfectly good idea, just make sure you put the battery in a proper battery box and make 100% sure its well secured.

Last thing you want in the event of an accident is for your battery to be used as a projectile spraying acid all over the place.

TZABOY
03-07-2003, 08:39 PM
I'd probebly keep the battery box it's in, just move it to the back.
But what about the wiring? should i just extend the existing wires through the fire wall and under the carpet to the battery, then back again??

AussieMagna
03-07-2003, 08:54 PM
I think thats how its done, make sure you use a decent gauge wiring.

TBuTcher
03-07-2003, 08:58 PM
Ok ... My GF's Torana has this setup...
It is NOT a good idea..
1 - wiring needs to go all the way from the alternator to the battery and tehn the + has to come all the way back..
2 - you would prob want to run the - back to the engine as well... From Memory in the original wiring loom it has 3 or so earth points.... so they would have to be re wired.
3 - Its a bit of a pain when you are adjusting the alrm siren... if you have to turn the key to disengage the battery-backup siren t starts to sound until you unplug the battery... (Ok so this is a silly point but it is annoying :) )
4 - we have been through 3 batteries in 2 years.... (Ok the reason for this is ..[so I have been told] that a battery needs to stay warm - hot to function correctly.. and in the engine bay it does but in the boot it stays cold... therefore doesnt charge as well.. or it looses charge/ doesnt hold its charge as well..) Remember those Bush Machanics... they put the flat battery near the camp fire and it recharged its self!

I plan on putting in a small deep cycle battery instead.. Maybe a smaller battery will alow you to do the plumbing..
Cannt you go ou through the side inner guard and then out to the front?

Haydn

TZABOY
03-07-2003, 09:21 PM
That fair enough haydn, it was just a thought. I was thinking about going through the wheel arch but i just don't like that idea. If there was no battery there i could put the pod further forward, put a box around it and get an induction hose up to the box easier.

TBuTcher
03-07-2003, 09:47 PM
Is your car a TE+ or TR/TS?
Haydn

dsfsdf
03-07-2003, 10:56 PM
i wanna learn more about booya's CAI

Raymond_C
03-07-2003, 10:57 PM
As Blake said use a decent gauge wire (ie f***in' thick) or else the electrical resistance will kill your voltage.

oh this may be how the heat helps recharge.
During recharging, an external source of energy is used to reverse the direction of the spontaneous redox reaction:

Anode: Pb(s) + SO4^2-(aq) ----> PbSO4(s)2e- E = +0.356V
Cathode: PbO2((s) + SO4^2-(aq) + 4H^+(aq) + 2e- ----> PbSO4(s) + 2H20(l) E = +1.685V

(giving a total E = +2.041V per cell, with 6 cells in a battery = 12.246V)

So by heating the water the reverse reaction is promoted (and the battery re-charged). If people want to see the rest of the section in the textbook on Lead-Acid batteries I'll scan it in. 8)

BOosted' BOoya
04-07-2003, 05:43 AM
As Blake said use a decent gauge wire (ie f***in' thick) or else the electrical resistance will kill your voltage.

oh this may be how the heat helps recharge.[quote:6f741d9a92="Chemistry - the central science"]During recharging, an external source of energy is used to reverse the direction of the spontaneous redox reaction:

Anode: Pb(s) + SO4^2-(aq) ----> PbSO4(s)2e- E = +0.356V
Cathode: PbO2((s) + SO4^2-(aq) + 4H^+(aq) + 2e- ----> PbSO4(s) + 2H20(l) E = +1.685V

(giving a total E = +2.041V per cell, with 6 cells in a battery = 12.246V)

So by heating the water the reverse reaction is promoted (and the battery re-charged). If people want to see the rest of the section in the textbook on Lead-Acid batteries I'll scan it in. 8)[/quote:6f741d9a92]

Raymond, do you ever speak-a-english???? (mexican voice)
:lol:

dude, that look like the theory to how the world evolved :lol:

Manual
04-07-2003, 08:57 AM
It's just simple yr 10 chemistry dude!!

Manual

AussieMagna
04-07-2003, 09:03 AM
I think is great that we have someone as tech minded as Raymond. Keep up the good work mate. Chemistry and equations are not my strong point thats for sure, evaluating the NPV of an investment is (GO COMMERCE :D )

Manual
04-07-2003, 09:11 AM
I think is great that we have someone as tech minded as Raymond. Keep up the good work mate. Chemistry and equations are not my strong point thats for sure, evaluating the NPV of an investment is (GO COMMERCE :D )

NPV ~ Net Profit Value??

Economics is slowly coming back as well I think!!

AussieMagna
04-07-2003, 10:19 AM
NPV - Net Present Value

:lol: Close Malc :D

Manual
04-07-2003, 11:22 AM
Just because I got the Yr 12 top of the class award for economics doesnt mean I passed the subject!! I got a gold medal and a certificate to prove I was top of the class.

If u wanna know how I scored that - I got a grade of 47% and teh only other person in my class had 43% - so we both failed but she had a lower grade than me and I got top of the class- joys of a small school!!

Manual

Raymond_C
04-07-2003, 06:13 PM
Cheers guys for the compliments. And that NPV stuff I had to study as well for 3rd year management (for planning project budgets). IRR, discount rates and all that crap. :p

In English (specially for Booya):

Anode: Pb(s) + SO4^2-(aq) ----> PbSO4(s) + 2e- E = +0.356V

Lead as a solid mixed with sulfate ions in a water-based solution produces lead sulfate solid and 2 free electrons for a total voltage of 0.356V.

Cathode: PbO2(s) + SO4^2-(aq) + 4H^+(aq) + 2e- ----> PbSO4(s) + 2H20(l) E = +1.685V

Lead dioxide as a solid mixed with sulfate ions in a water-based solution, 4 hydrogen ions and 2 free electrons produces lead sulfate solid and 2 lots of water as a liquid for a total voltage of 1.685V.

I'll blow all your minds (especially if you don't remember high school chemistry) and say that REAL current flows from the - terminal to the + terminal. :D

And just to show I'm not a genius at everything, I screwed up my HSC English course (2U General) - got 47% in the assessment. Not that I care about that really... :lol:

TBuTcher
04-07-2003, 06:40 PM
:-s :-s :-s :-s :-s :-s :-s ?
Haydn

BOosted' BOoya
04-07-2003, 06:43 PM
:-s :-s :-s :-s :-s :-s :-s ?
Haydn

^ as above 8-[ :-k

Killbilly
04-07-2003, 07:15 PM
Hey TZABOY, when do you have some free time? We can meet up and I'll discuss what I have designed/planned for CAI

It WILL work very effectively I'm just waiting on my dad to price the hosing so I can make it

cthulhu
04-07-2003, 07:58 PM
I'll blow all your minds (especially if you don't remember high school chemistry) and say that REAL current flows from the - terminal to the + terminal. :D

They tought us that in Physics.. I didn't take Chem beyond yr 10. Its obvious when you think about it though.

TZABOY
04-07-2003, 08:04 PM
Hey TZABOY, when do you have some free time? We can meet up and I'll discuss what I have designed/planned for CAI

It WILL work very effectively I'm just waiting on my dad to price the hosing so I can make it

Paul, you should cruise over to my joint one night and put these plans into action, you could also pick up my old interior if you want

Killbilly
04-07-2003, 09:55 PM
That sounds like a plan mate! What days/nights are you free?

Redav
05-07-2003, 08:52 PM
NPV - Net Present Value

No.... not another TLA!