Man ive just been quoted $594 for the pace makers which includes both headers and the Y pipe that will connect up to the existing flex this includes the gaskets as well.

not too sure on pricing :rant:

Is that installed?

Man ive just been quoted $594 for the pace makers which includes both headers and the Y pipe that will connect up to the existing flex this includes the gaskets as well.

not too sure on pricing :rant:Read an old thread of mine.

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8988&highlight=pacemaker

Cost 380.00, you can even get them couriered to your house for $11.00

Then called Daalder Exhaust in BoxHill to make an appointment, just mention a guy named Milton in a red Magna said you do a great job. They will fit them for like 80 - 120 bucks

Then with the money youve saved, we can meet up and have a beer!

If thats installed its alright, maybe still abit overpriced. If its not installed HAHA, pacemakers are like $350 right?

yeah thats installed

hey bain, does the pace makers come with the flexpipe & Y pipe?

yeah thats installed

hey bain, does the pace makers come with the flexpipe & Y pipe?

Shouldnt need flexpipe mate.. they just weld your existing flex to it..

Thats probably why your quote is so high, if they are replacing it that will be $70 by itself.. Flex is the more expensive part of an exhaust system (not including cats)

hrmm ok off to boxhill after xmas it is :)

Save the money and get custom headers made. The pacemakers are WAY TOO SHORT and so I believe are RPW's. I've been quoted $650 for custom headers, fully installed. These will have around 32" long primaries.

Need to make a more informed choice? Check this: http://www.headersbyed.com

Save the money and get custom headers made. The pacemakers are WAY TOO SHORT and so I believe are RPW's. I've been quoted $650 for custom headers, fully installed. These will have around 32" long primaries.

Need to make a more informed choice? Check this: http://www.headersbyed.com
Longer means youll get more torque up in the high range of your revs..

Unless you are racing that would be pointless.. Shorter free flowing primaries are better as you get the torque down in the low rev range (which is where most driving is done)..

Id certainly prefer a quicker take off than a slow take off with high end 'boost' if you want to call it that..

Bain,
Your answer is back to front.

Longer header pipes, primaries in the case of a 3 cylinder engine = lower resonant frequency= more torque ( power) at lower revs.

Look at the pipe sizes and lengths on an Organ. the big fat long ones are for the low frequencies.

Gerry

Longer means youll get more torque up in the high range of your revs..

Unless you are racing that would be pointless.. Shorter free flowing primaries are better as you get the torque down in the low rev range (which is where most driving is done)..

Id certainly prefer a quicker take off than a slow take off with high end 'boost' if you want to call it that..

:nuts:

Bain,
Your answer is back to front.

Gerry

Thank you.


I'm concerned that people don't seem to research what they're talking about. If short was best, we'd leave the stock items and gape in awe and amazement as we crushed V8s left, right and centre lol

Well I had mine installed for $550, could have done it for less I know but I chose piece of mind and friendly, reliable service... oh and as far as custom headers, a certain Mr [companyname] workshop tried to rip me off for a $970 custom set... i practically ran out of that place! and I know of someone who had a custom set made up and they weren't too happy with em... but saying that, cant say all customs are bad, just have to be careful.

EZ Boy, not being critical of you but have you tried out the pacemakers or RPW's compared to your customs? just curious about actual real comparisons, as in tested. I am not sure that anyone can be certain that one is better than the other, unless there is some standard testing carried out... unfortunately in our cars it is not a common enough mod (compared to a commodore for example) to have had proper tests done (who would finance it?). I wish we did have more technical data though.

Shorter pipes are better for top end, longer pipes are better for low end gains :D ,

Ohh it's the same thing for intake runners (3rd gens are fixed lenght), the 2nd gens used a varible intake manifold, low to mid revs used a longer intake path and swithed to a shorter path to optimise power in the mid to high rev range :P