Does anyone know the weight of a VR-X 17" rim ?

Either with a tyre or without a tyre.

I'd like to compare the weight with some after-market wheels, and don't want to get wheels that are much heavier, as I have done that before and I really noticed the difference. (read BAD! :rant: )

i know my mags, not stock ones, weigh around 10kg each withouth rubber they are 18x8