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Killbilly
05-01-2005, 06:28 PM
Who, other than the obvious that I wont deal with, makes or can make up short shifters?
I've been looking at the ones for the 3000GT's and they're shifters are identical, so I was thinking of getting one from over there. The only problem is warranty will be virtually impossible to enforce so I'll pretty much have to be prepared to be reamed if anything goes wrong.
Does anyone have an old shifter they're willing to part with? As I might be able to take it to a few places for ideas. If it goes well, might be able to get them to reproduce them for other people.
Asylum
05-01-2005, 06:36 PM
good old hacksaw almost does the job
MitsiMonsta
05-01-2005, 06:37 PM
RPW have them KB....
Ask Anthony from Phillcom for a price, support the sponsors...
Ralliart-AKKO
05-01-2005, 06:39 PM
RPW have them KB....
Ask Anthony from Phillcom for a price, support the sponsors...
I'll think you'll find that RPW are the company that KB won't deal with...
MitsiMonsta
05-01-2005, 06:45 PM
ah huh. Just re-read the thread and realised. DOH!
Hey he isn't DEALING with that company.... He's just purchasing one of their products from Phillcom Rally.
I dunno... If you could get the specs of the shifter, any engineering firm could make one for you once they CNC programmed it (and could get extras made as well)
Just a thought.
Killbilly
05-01-2005, 06:47 PM
Yeah sorry MitsiMonsta, RPW are the ones I dont wish to deal with for lots of reasons which I dont want to go into.
Asylum: SOLD! :P You work for bunnings I bet :P hahh
MitsiMonsta
05-01-2005, 06:54 PM
Yeah sorry MitsiMonsta, RPW are the ones I dont wish to deal with for lots of reasons which I dont want to go into.
I think I saw THAT thread somewhere in my travels..... Sorry... I am still at work after 14 (almost 15) hours and I ain't reading straight and the 2c pieces ain't dropping well. Still haven't eaten dinner either.
As I said, deal with someone else for the same product. Unfortunately with our Magnas we are between a rock and RPW....
Get your mitts on one of them, and get another engineering place with Aluminium CNC capability to do a better 'version' for you....
Killbilly
05-01-2005, 06:57 PM
Cheers mate, I think I'll go with what I've been looking at for some time now anyway :)
It comes from the states, all the pics of it where they compare it to the stock one shows the stock one to be exactly the same as mine. So I'm going to bite the bullet and get one from there.
I won't disclose the place on here as it would be unfair to the sponsor (Sorry Anthony, this is not against you mate! I will be buying stuff from you in the future!).
But rest assured I'll be sure to let you all know how I go (might not be for a while yet)
Thanks again
http://www.3sxperformance.com/images/shifter-up-race-03-450.jpg
http://www.stealth316.com/images/3kgtshifter-withstock.jpg
EDIT: It's the top one I'm going to get..the bottom ones look a bit dodgy!
Black Beard
05-01-2005, 07:01 PM
Get your mitts on one of them, and get another engineering place with Aluminium CNC capability to do a better 'version' for you....
So you're saying he should buy some RPW ones - not from RPW, and then take them to an engineering place and say "here..... copy these for me" just so he can have a short shift kit which isn't a RPW one. I realise some ppl have issues with that brand - but thats a pretty rediculous suggestion.
MitsiMonsta
05-01-2005, 07:07 PM
I said better version. Use some brains and get a better quick shift kit.
KB> Hope it fits. Let me know what happens with it.
Mulga
05-01-2005, 07:15 PM
This is the only thing I bought from.... :shifty: ...they whose name shall not be uttered. :badgrin:
It was the only item that no-one else could supply.
Theirs is the one with the black coloured pivot thing (industry based technical term :P ). Hope this helps. :D
MitsiMonsta
05-01-2005, 07:19 PM
Yeah, I will probably buy one from those whose name should not be uttered as well (thru Phillcom) anyways...
Killbilly - your pic looks NOTHING like the ones that Mulgo posted..... *worried*
Killbilly
05-01-2005, 07:28 PM
That's a 3rd gen one! That's why! lol
Anthony
05-01-2005, 07:30 PM
Killbilly..... it's ok mate. If everyone buys from me then I'd be laughing and quite my day job.!!! :badgrin: Also by the way, I don't only just sell RPW products. Even with short shifters I sell 2 other brands, including Xracing and B&M. However, I do find RPW ones are sensational.
My suggestion is to seperate RPW service with RPW products. Enough said.
By the way it may be the cheap way out to copy RPW's product right now, but think about it, if they don't sell their stuff, they don't make money, and so no money to do research andd develop MITSUBISHI products, and so in the end you have nothing but crappy American stuff that isn't made for Aussie cars. :cool:
Asylum..... please tell me you are joking :shock: There is a difference between a shifter that is short and a short shifter. By physically cutting the shifter will only make it stand shorter, it does nothing to "shorten" the THROW and SHIFT of the actual shifter. This is speaking from experience :redface:
the 3000GT is awd isnt it? or is there a fwd base model??
Killbilly
05-01-2005, 07:41 PM
the 3000GT is awd isnt it?
Not all of them, also that means nothing to the shifter.
ohk thanks for the info much appreciated as i didnt really know about the 3000GT's- also arent the 3000GT 'boxes 6 speed? eh im sure im wrong there...
Anthony
05-01-2005, 08:05 PM
as long as the shifter is the same, 4WD or 2WD makes no difference. ie. the CC Lancer 1.5 GL shares the same shifter as the Evo 1-3.
Killbilly
05-01-2005, 08:10 PM
ohk thanks for the info much appreciated as i didnt really know about the 3000GT's- also arent the 3000GT 'boxes 6 speed? eh im sure im wrong there...
FWD = 5 speed
1st Gen AWD = 5 speed.
2nd Gen AWD = 6 speed
AFAIK
MitsiMonsta
05-01-2005, 08:18 PM
That's a 3rd gen one! That's why! lol
Ah, that's okay, heart leapt to my throat thinking of you ordering from teh states and it being wrong. And I didn't think that pic looked like mine.....
Killbilly..... it's ok mate. If everyone buys from me then I'd be laughing and quite my day job.!!! Also by the way, I don't only just sell RPW products. Even with short shifters I sell 2 other brands, including Xracing and B&M. However, I do find RPW ones are sensational.
Pics and pricing (your normal list pricing?) please Anthony. Another one of these things I am gunna have to buy, just dunno where the $$$$ will come from.
As for the RPW "Buy the product so they can R&D" bit, if there was something physically wrong with the quality of the product, then you could use better materials and machining. But I Anthony says the RPW is the best of the lot, then he is staking is reputation on that, so I would think he genuinely believes that is the case (and could probably back it up with satisfied customers).
Anthony - you have to do a list of EVERYTHING Magna you do, and put a complete general price list together.
MitsiMonsta
05-01-2005, 08:21 PM
FWD = 5 speed
1st Gen AWD = 5 speed.
2nd Gen AWD = 6 speed
AFAIK
I take it you are talking about the 3000GT/GTO, not the Magna.
Is there a 6 speed manual box that will bolt up to either Magna V6 engine?
Killbilly
05-01-2005, 08:29 PM
I take it you are talking about the 3000GT/GTO, not the Magna.
Is there a 6 speed manual box that will bolt up to either Magna V6 engine?
Yeah the GTO,
The 6 speed will bolt up to the SOHC 12v/DOHC 24v, but it's an AWD box, it's not as simple as removing the transfer case, you need to do internal work to it to change it to FWD, but it can be done.
The 5 speed AWD was converted to a FWD for silver_bullet on the MOGWA forums when he did the DOHC TT conversion in his TS
MitsiMonsta
05-01-2005, 08:43 PM
Yeah the GTO, The 6 speed will bolt up to the SOHC 12v/DOHC 24v, but it's an AWD box, it's not as simple as removing the transfer case, you need to do internal work to it to change it to FWD, but it can be done.
I'm hearing you. Could you rebuild a current box to a 6 speed? Could I change the final drive ratio in my TF?
And for reference, the GTO/3000GT engines are not a direct fit, are they? I've seen a front cut for $3000... was wondering about maybe dumping the head, exhaust manifolds, turbos etc onto my block, and do better bearings, crank, rods & pistons into my block but I think by what I have read, this will not work?
Killbilly
05-01-2005, 08:52 PM
I'm hearing you. Could you rebuild a current box to a 6 speed? Could I change the final drive ratio in my TF?
And for reference, the GTO/3000GT engines are not a direct fit, are they? I've seen a front cut for $3000... was wondering about maybe dumping the head, exhaust manifolds, turbos etc onto my block, and do better bearings, crank, rods & pistons into my block but I think by what I have read, this will not work?
Well depends what you're putting it into?
Im assuming you're talking about your TF?
In that case, no it's not. They're oriented the same way as the TR/TS SOHC 12v V6.
They are a direct fit for the TR/TS V6's. Read here ==>http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13303
Not sure about fitting the stuff from it on yours, I would have no idea. I have my doubts, but I could be wrong.
Oh and about rebuilding a gearbox to be a 6 speed, I have no idea about that either lol!!
I'm not a mechanic nor an expert tuner nor a super modifier lol. I just put a bolt in motor into my car :P
MitsiMonsta
05-01-2005, 09:01 PM
Well depends what you're putting it into? Im assuming you're talking about your TF?
I am indeed.
In that case, no it's not. They're oriented the same way as the TR/TS SOHC 12v V6. They are a direct fit for the TR/TS V6's. Read here ==>http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13303
I think that is what I read.
Not sure about fitting the stuff from it on yours, I would have no idea. I have my doubts, but I could be wrong.
I'd be most worried about it... if the head is a direct fit to a magna block... then anything might be possible. There is a thread going on, but I only get confused with it. Need piccies.
Oh and about rebuilding a gearbox to be a 6 speed, I have no idea about that either lol!!
I'm talking about getting a 6 speed gearset (in fact, all the GTO internals) and putting it into my case.
Might work... I know you can do some serious buildups of your own transmission with dog engagement gearsets etc.
I'm not a mechanic nor an expert tuner nor a super modifier lol. I just put a bolt in motor into my car :P
Lucky so and so....
Madmagna
05-01-2005, 09:14 PM
The aim is to move the pivot point to allow a lesser throw for more movement below the pivot.
The, ummm, Perth one, has done this, it is a quite simple thing to do.
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