I have been in contact with Jamie at www.shiftkits.com.au (http://www.shiftkits.com.au) re kits for 3rd Gen Magnas. He tells me they are on the drawing board for the 1st Quarter of this Year :dancin:

He said to keep an eye on their website for updates and release dates.

Happy Motoring.

Very interesting... would be nice if they developed a tiptronic conversion...

Prices are good too - at ~$100 it is a very usable mod.

Cheers
Heath Young

Any news on a 2nd gen short shift kit for an auto? i'd buy one for $100 for sure!

HELL YEA! I cant wait!! I'll get a trans cooler aswell that should complement it well.

should find out about torque converters too

Bring 'em on!

Yes!!!!

nice, but changing firmness of shifts wouldnt that shorten the life of an auto? we all know how annoying magna autos are

*edit* just read site, they say changing it can lengthen the life of an auto? if it can ill def be buying one of these! *edit*

yeh they are sure fun. i made one myself for my 1st gen after 4 days or so testing and understanding the theory behind it. very tricky to drive in the wet esp going around a corner when it changes from 1st -> 2nd and you know how FWD cars are :D you keep goin straight lol. yeh thats why i added a switch.

chirps 1->2, but not 2->3 (obviously) but a lot firmer.

i can chirp my 1-2 with my auto 4 spd...

HELL YEA! I cant wait!! I'll get a trans cooler aswell that should complement it well.

should find out about torque converters too

Based on what I just read here: http://www.allpar.com/mopar/shift-kits.html

A shift kit in theory should make a trans cooler obsolete. Sounds too good to be true for us auto drivers.

i don't like the auto changing gears for me around a corner, and if it was going to start doing it quicker and sharper, i can see lots of autos end up in the trees off the side of the road....

true but you know the limits of your car. your not gonna exactly use full throttle taking it, but i admit even say 1/3 throttle you feel loss (can control/correct it easily). i cant imagine how hard it would be on a RWD drive car.

This is good news indeed - but I'd like to see some sort of function where you could change from normal to modified...

Any news on a 2nd gen short shift kit for an auto? i'd buy one for $100 for sure!
how do u make a 2nd gen auto short shifter??? doesnt make sense to me thats all

i dont even know if you have taken the time to actualy look at the site but for every kit there is a switch to run the modifed version and to bypass it all (ie back to stock).

as for making one; the theory behind it is to controll / limit the ammount of current being sent to the solenoid in the tranny box. if you hook up a multimeter to measure current in series from the tranny ecus ( i know the 1st gens have sep car/tranny ecus - and the carby models have a tranny ecu) to the solenoids output, you will see as you accelerate the current increases making the shift smoother. with this in mind you will need to play with resistor values to put in series to reduce the average current being sent. (you can pop a switch here to bypass it if needed).

an example is an avg house light bulb. now if you wanted to reduce how "bright" it shines you would put a dimmer controll to it. all that is is a variable resistor which chops the top of the pulses sent to it to reduce the avg current going to it.

it all comes down to measuring a few things and tryin a few values. oh and dont use 1/2w and 1/4w resistors they will get REALLLLLY hot. use 5w resistors (dont even get warm). all the commerical kits use parts worth up to $5 max, but then again its not so much charing for the parts its for the idea/time taken developing it etc. 1st/2nd gen isnt too hard as for 3rd gen same idea would apply but would need a few more tests to see how to trick the ecu (as its a "learning" tranny ecu). anway ive done a few posts on this so no point repeating it.

thats the basics, all up mine cost me under $10 (1st gen). and these kits have been out for YEARS its not something "new" back in the day when auto transmissions were not electronicaly controlled they would change internals to get the same result.

Yeh what he said. Basically change the time it takes to change gears with a resistor. It's basically the same thing as the 3rd gen one so if they do start selling them, they may look into 2nd gens fingers crossed. i would have no idea on where to start making my own so i'm not even going to try.

I had a look at the web site and the idea is very interesting though i'm not sure if us guys with the tiptronic would need it as we shift when we want anyway. Maybe only good for those guys who have the standard 4 speed auto and just want it to shift a bit quicker than it normally does which would be good.

A shift kit will improve the shifts because it adjusts the signal from the ECU to the solenoid in the gearbox. The solenoid action can be adjusted for firmer/faster shifts or softer/slower/gentler shifts. A firmer shift has less slippage and returns better fuel economy also. Less slippage = less heat = happy gearbox.

Going to try making my own programmable shiftkit for my 5sp tip AWD. Might put in 2 shift maps that can be switched between while on the fly. :cool:

My cousin bought a DIY shift kit for his AU falcon and put it toghether himself. This unit had 3 settings (3 position toggle switch). Setting 1 was bypass (stock shifts) setting 2 was slighttly firmer shifts and setting 3 had the firmist shifts. I'm waiting for him to put it in the car so I can report with the real world results. :D

oh RWD cars make sure you install a driveshaft loop for safety (~6" from trasmission end). you dont want the driveshaft hitting the road if it fails... flipping your car is not fun, esp at high speed!

oh RWD cars make sure you install a driveshaft loop for safety (~6" from trasmission end). you dont want the driveshaft hitting the road if it fails... flipping your car is not fun, esp at high speed!

I'm pretty sure the AU's had a shaft damping unit near the middle of the shaft to reduce vibrations, that should hold the shaft if the diff pack up shop, but on a mildlly worked car such as his, I doubt he will engounter problems lol

Hey guys..
After enquiring about progress of magna shift kits I've got this e-mail today:

"Hopefully we should have done some preliminary testing by the start of June this year.
We will post progress updates on our site.

Regards
Jamie
www.shiftkits.com.au"

i can chirp my 1-2 with my auto 4 spd...

same i can do it in the 4spd and a 5spd auto. when i first started driving the time to change gear was slower than it is now, well it seems to change faster now.

My Mate had a n EF Futura with a quick shift quick in it. He only had a 2 way switch, on and off. I'd be soo happy if I could get that :)

ooh happy day :) cant wait :)

I've been told that Mitsu have a kit for shorting the shift change speed for the 3rd gen autos. It's a different value thermister which you simply plug in,in place of the current one in the pan.
There's a guy at work who's an ex mitsu mech who is supposed to be getting the part number for me.

I've been told that Mitsu have a kit for shorting the shift change speed for the 3rd gen autos. It's a different value thermister which you simply plug in,in place of the current one in the pan.
There's a guy at work who's an ex mitsu mech who is supposed to be getting the part number for me.

Please do!

Yes yes yes!! :D

I've been told that Mitsu have a kit for shorting the shift change speed for the 3rd gen autos. It's a different value thermister which you simply plug in,in place of the current one in the pan.
There's a guy at work who's an ex mitsu mech who is supposed to be getting the part number for me.

Any news yet?

I can chirp mine also into second gear :D NB 180 klick motor Second Gen with auto and i was impressed!

how much to get one for a 2 gen and how easy to install, will pay to get done

please pm if you have some info

it's not June yet. but we are already setting up a deal to become a dealer for the auto short shift kit. :)

Sign me up! Where do I sign?

Sign me up! Where do I sign?

You must trade your soul for a shift kit :badgrin:

You must trade your soul for a shift kit :badgrin:

My Soul?

:think: *ponders* :think:

DONE!

I've been told that Mitsu have a kit for shorting the shift change speed for the 3rd gen autos. It's a different value thermister which you simply plug in,in place of the current one in the pan.
There's a guy at work who's an ex mitsu mech who is supposed to be getting the part number for me.

i've heard u can also get these for the late model auto lancers (when they added steering wheel buttons for the VRX) apparently u option it when u order it as a new car and it takes a fair bit out of the shift time

it's not June yet. but we are already setting up a deal to become a dealer for the auto short shift kit. :)

sounds good to me!!! im anxious :(

sounds brilliant

i dont think i can wait till June

can i pre order now so i can get it as soon as possible


Posting on AMC sure beats wat im meant to be doing ( WORK )

Does anyone know whats involved in installation?

My Soul?

:think: *ponders* :think:

DONE!


Hooray, well anthony can have the money and ill keep everyones souls lol

Hooray, well anthony can have the money and ill keep everyones souls lol


Hang on, my money AND my soul?

Can I -atleast- have a discount if I give you my soul?

well it looks like phillcom rally ...rpw...samething.... are distributing them

expect a nice price increase haha


oh well, at least it will make the magna community faster, if also a little poorer

I'm sick of being poor :(

Poorer, it will be worth it! :D

Look at me, I was/am willing to trade my soul...

:tantrum: I want My Shift Kit NOW! :tantrum: NOW!!! :tantrum:

buy a gen1... and you can buy your shift kit from most places :bowrofl:

not that i've tried it, but any of you gen1 auto guys other than subby got this gen1 shift kit going?

buy a gen1... and you can buy your shift kit from most places :bowrofl:

not that i've tried it, but any of you gen1 auto guys other than subby got this gen1 shift kit going?

I don't want to but a gen 1 though, i want to buy a shift kit for my 3rd gen :)

Sorry guys, been stuffing me round for ages with this info and heaps of other info I've asked for , seems genuine enough and knows his magnas.

I'll just keep asking.

Hold on a sec I found this little ripper just now. It looks like it could work as a shift kit and a tiptronic.

http://www.powertraincontrolsolutions.com/content-4.html

Yer but its $850 plus, not really the cheap easy way.

so are there shift kits able to be fitted to a tiptronic box?

Hold on a sec I found this little ripper just now. It looks like it could work as a shift kit and a tiptronic.

http://www.powertraincontrolsolutions.com/content-4.html
That looks like it's a complete replacement transmission ECU.

Doesn't list any Mitsui Trans - and I'd say 99% of people would have no idea about how to program/wire it anyway :(

so these shift kits ecu from shift kits .com do the plug in to the std trans comp or are they like a piggy back trans comp if so are the hard to wire up ?

It's the same concept of a piggyback ECU - whereby it retunes the signal between the trans & the ECU itself.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18230&item=4546138523&rd=1

I emailed this guy because in his listing it has "STAGE 1 SHIFT KITTED AUTO"

His response was.

You should be able to get one from any auto transmissions workshop

So are they actually available for the magna?

is there any development on these?? :|

Still says - Magna Shiftkit development coming soon... so... still vapourware.

If you want to hassle them, here are their contact details...

Pentagon Information Technology Services

Phone : 1300 663 128

Fax : 08 9287 1728

Sales : sales@shiftkits.com.au

Support : support@shiftkits.com.au

Cheers
Heath Young

Hey just spoke to the guys at service at mitsi, you can't get a shift kit for magnas (genuine anyway) so if you put one on it voids your warrenty. sorry dudes

checked the website again and there's nothing said about the status of the magna shiftkit...

anyone know whether they've already abandoned the idea?

i've sent an email asking about it... so waiting for their reply.....

checked the website again and there's nothing said about the status of the magna shiftkit...

anyone know whether they've already abandoned the idea?

i've sent an email asking about it... so waiting for their reply.....

I sent them an email about them a long long long time ago and never got any reply whatsoever
:rant: . I too noticed that the reference to the Magna shiftkits had been removed from their website a couple of months ago at least.

I dare say they've abandoned the idea.

Ive contacted them and they informed me that development has been stopped due to problems getting around the 'learning' capabilities of the Auto trans ECU.

Ive contacted them and they informed me that development has been stopped due to problems getting around the 'learning' capabilities of the Auto trans ECU.
I thought the 5spds were the only 'box equipped with INVECS software? Let me talk to a one of dad's 'associates' and see what his 5c is on this. There's gotta be another way.

Yeah there is certainly a way! I got the impression that there wasnt HEAPS of effort put into it.....not sure about the invecs stuff tho, u could be right

All magna autos form the 2nd gen and on had a type of INVECS. I know the TS my dad used to hae years ago had it. And all 3rd gens definatlly have it.

Well for the people with tiptronic, wouldnt you really only want firmer shifts when shifting yourself? Wouldnt this not be in a learning mode?